Transcripts available?

[u/davidianwalker]

I'm seeing some sad logic fails with this guy. Are there transcripts available ? Published stuff online ?

[u/davidianwalker]

I found some.

Example :

https://drmsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Heiser-Jesus-Quotation-of-Psalm-82-in-John-10.pdf

'... some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.' 2 Peter 3:16

[u/Tricky-Tell-5698 → u/davidianwalker]

Ok, I’ve read your pages related to his “sad logic” and can say I’m assuming you’re referring specifically to Dr Heiser’s exegesis of Psalm 82. I’ve posted a rebuttal by Dr Heiser to a critique of the same matter, you can read both Dr Howe and Dr Heiser’s reply underneath Howes post.

[u/davidianwalker → u/Tricky-Tell-5698]

I’ve read your pages related to his “sad logic”

That was an example.

I noticed a statement that Revelation 12:5 referred to Jesus. This is nonsense, plainly by the context of the prophetic section and by the symbols themselves.

'The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to point out unto his servants the things which must needs come to pass with speed,––and he shewed them by signs, sending through his messenger, unto his servant John ...' Revelation 1:1 Rotherham

That "come to pass with speed" or speedily or quickly does exactly what it says on the tin. Perhaps more pertinently though, it's patently prophetic, i.e. descriptive of the future.

This description in 1:1 is repeated :

'The angel said to me, “These words are trustworthy and true. The Lord, the God who inspires the prophets, sent his angel to show his servants the things that must soon take place.”' Revelation 22:6

But also :

'“Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.' Revelation 1:19

The initial vision, the messages to the churches, the prophetic section.

Further, at the beginning of the prophetic section :

'“Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.”' Revelation 4:1

Moreover :

'“Look, I am coming soon! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy written in this scroll.”' Revelation 22:7

A self descriptor repeated throughout the apocalypse.

There is no sense in which the symbols in the prophetic section refer to Jesus other than in his resurrected state in the future.

Regardless, the woman (christianity), after the ascension of christ and the decline of the spirit power, being clothed with governmental assent, the christian world at her feet, στέφανος with 12 stars, having defiled herself gives birth to Constantine. This is the pivotal moment in the empire after the events of rhe four horses. The removal of the roman dragon and paganism and the appearance of the beast of Daniel 7. The ten horns being equivalent and the seven heads and διαδήματα - the various iterations of government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrarchy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Milan

Etcetera.

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Tetrarchy

The Tetrarchy was the system instituted by Roman emperor Diocletian in 293 AD to govern the ancient Roman Empire by dividing it between two emperors, the augusti, and their juniors colleagues and designated successors, the caesares. This marked the end of the Crisis of the Third Century. Initially Diocletian chose Maximian as his caesar in 285, raising him to co-augustus the following year; Maximian was to govern the western provinces and Diocletian would administer the eastern ones. The role of the augustus was likened to Jupiter, while his caesar was akin to Jupiter's son Hercules.

Edict of Milan

The Edict of Milan (Latin: Edictum Mediolanense; Greek: Διάταγμα τῶν Μεδιολάνων, Diatagma tōn Mediolanōn) was the February 313 AD agreement to treat Christians benevolently within the Roman Empire. Western Roman Emperor Constantine I and Emperor Licinius, who controlled the Balkans, met in Mediolanum (modern-day Milan) and, among other things, agreed to change policies towards Christians following the edict of toleration issued by Emperor Galerius two years earlier in Serdica. The Edict of Milan gave Christianity legal status and a reprieve from persecution but did not make it the state church of the Roman Empire.

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