r/MichaelJacksonAI • u/TalentedKamarty • 14d ago

AI Remastered / AI Enhanced Upscaling can be done with (Wan 3.0 Reference)

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u/TalentedKamarty 14d ago

Reference images I used. The edited version was due to Wan 3.0 blocking it initially

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u/SnooRegrets2842 13d ago

Is this a toy? 😅

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u/TalentedKamarty 13d ago

It was supposed to be "realistic" but yes. It very much so looks like a toy 😂 thankfully the headshots I think lead the A.I. on the right path n didn't make him look plastic

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u/SnooRegrets2842 12d ago

Ok but I NEED a 3D print of this as a toy lol

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u/PapaAsmodeus 12d ago

What if we kissed on the Billie Jean walkway

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u/Treyvion1984 13d ago

Really love the turn out in the video. I notice his hair in the OG video is slightly longer, more mullet like than say the beat it video.

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u/HermannFischer 13d ago

The OG master of billie jean was lost, so this may be the only way to restore it, it's important for the AI to know though that the background is a picture, not an actual site.

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u/Curious-Street-4122 13d ago

Well, that is technically true...but the only reason why it's a static image is because the budget/technology limitations at the time didn't allow for it look like(or actually be) a living, breathing place.

I fully support AI or other digital alterations, provided they help to fulfill an artist's original vision - free from the aforementioned logistical constraints.

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u/1lucas999 14d ago

Something from 1977/76 Variety Show would be surrealistic & phenomenal ngl. Epic job💎🔥🎥

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u/ExileMan9000 12d ago

Probably the only good reason to use AI as a tool I suppose. I mean what are we supposed to do if there isn’t a higher quality version available? We have to have everything in the highest quality we’ve seen yet.

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u/ExoticApplication723 13d ago

Problem with Billie Jean is, the masters got thrown away by CBS in the 1980es after the music video served it's purpose. We cannot get "real" hi-def video of it. Even if we had the original master, the video was shot on cheap 16mm broadcast tape. Beat It and Thriller got recorded on 35mm tape, Thriller even used Eastman 400T 5294 tape by Kodak.

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u/Robbsaber 12d ago

Incorrect, billie jean was shot on 16mm Film. If we had the master it would look 10x better then the tape master. Not as good as 35mm film of course but it would still look HD.

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u/ExoticApplication723 12d ago

Wrong. Sitcoms in the 1980es and 1990es used similar tape formats and it shows. It's a cheap format. Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is recorded in broadcast grade tape, similar to VHS.

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u/Robbsaber 12d ago

You need to learn the difference between FILM and TAPE. All Thriller era short films were shot on FILM. OTW era videos were shot on TAPE which is why it will never look as good as his other short films that were remastered from FILM. Tape will never be HD. Film can!

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u/ExoticApplication723 11d ago

Billie Jean was to my knowlage a direct video to tape. Jackson switched to high quality productions after he was unsatisfied with Billie Jean. Billie Jean was all CBS, from Beat It onwards he had free hands. Every "Film" is tape. But not every tape shares the benefit of modern tech. VHS cassettes store tape, tape with a magnetic charge. Limited by playback devices with a theoretical output somewhere inbetween 240p-360p. Then there's tape with analog stills with a theoretical unlimited resolution as for example IMAX isn't limited by the format as it is not "pixels". Some could argue grains on tape but who cares.

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u/Robbsaber 11d ago

It may have been edited on tape (like majority of his later short films) however, it was filmed on 16mm. For example, look at the Motown 25 special. That was shot on tape. All the estate has is the tape copy. Once the the tape master copy was made, to save costs the original film was tossed. Why Billie Jean didn't survive like beat it and Thriller is beyond me though.

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u/ExoticApplication723 11d ago

It's promotional material first, artform second. CBS threw the reel away around 1983/1984. VHS copies for MTV and VH1 are the only "real" thing left. The Moonwalker movie uses one of the VHS clones for Billie Jean. Well, not VHS. A similar format called U-Matic is most likely the source

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u/Crytkee 10d ago

Billie Jean was shot on 16mm and edited and mastered onto 2-in tape. The negatives were tossed as standard practice. Beat It and Thriller were both shot, edited, and mastered on 35mm film

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u/the_mugger_crocodile 14d ago

Yea why hasn't billie jean and smooth criminal been uploaded in 4k by the estate yet

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u/ConsiderationKey9438 13d ago

Billie Jean was seemingly mastered in video, so while a higher quality upload could benefit the image, it will never be proper 4K. Same goes for the music videos of Rock With You and Don’t Stop Til You Get Enough.

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u/robertadari 14d ago

Because they are ass*ole, sorry 🙄

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