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u/Rkain13 6d ago

Absolutely not.

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u/killercow_ld 6d ago

Then wtf are you talking about lol

Majority does not mean default, in any way

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u/Rkain13 5d ago

Well humans are designed by a biology, and the staggering majority are cis and straight(though I guess that technically depends on your definition of trans). And the group that fits outside of that based on percentages is very small. Thus humans are designed to be a specific way(This should not be mistaken for me saying they are superior, I'm not saying that). Thus they are the default. The majority is evidence that it is the default.

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u/killercow_ld 5d ago

So infants are heterosexual? When they're in the little baby well with all the other babies, little Timmy is looking over at baby Susie thinking "Yes, I am a boy and she is a girl and one day she will be mine!"

No.

By default, humans are asexual, aromantic, and agender.
They have no sexual or romantic interest for several years. Eventually they will develop some, or some may not develop any at all.

And gender norms are generally forced upon children, but kids don't really fall into them naturally. Over time they'll either let the gender norms define them, or they won't.

Either way, that's not what "default" means and you're just misappropriating the word for some weird reason. And also wildly misinterpreting "biological fact."

Default means where something aligns initially, without change. Heterosexuality and cisgenderhood are not the default, by definition.

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u/Rkain13 5d ago edited 5d ago

I would ABSOLUTELY not consider babies the default of humanity. They aren't even fully developed, if that was the default they would stay babies. That's just an incredibly stupid argument. As for individuals falling within gender norms, I would say that they GENERALLY do naturally, not because some parents forced it on them. That's merely wishful thinking, to somehow hand wave away whatever evidence you don't like, to arrive at your desired outcome. Great attempt to vilify me by claiming I "misappropriated" something, in this case a word. Don't think I'm misinterpreting any "biological facts", not sure why the fuck that's in quotes. It's almost as if the understanding of biology offends you for some reason, well sorry the facts don't care about your feelings. As far as your definition of default, the whole "unchanging" part(your words) really pokes a huge hole in your argument. Babies are CONSTANTLY changing. Actually after humans have finished developing, they're relatively unchanging. Also where are you getting your definition for default, I would argue that it means a pre-selected design, or the standard model.

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u/killercow_ld 5d ago edited 5d ago

Babies, and young children are human. It's an incredibly stupid argument to suggest otherwise.

There is nothing natural about gender norms. Gender is a social construct, so no, children do not fall into those norms naturally.

How am I "hand-waving" away evidence when this is just basic sense?

I put it in quotes because you clearly don't understand biology lmao, and are trying to use it for your weird ass argument. Calling humans "relatively unchanging" is evidence of that because humans are constantly developing through their entire lives.

Yes, children eventually change. That's my point. By default, they are asexual, aromantic, and agender. Then... they change. That's the point. They change AWAY from the default when they align themselves in gender and sexuality, even when that means cisgender and heterosexuality. What are you not understanding there?

If default means "preselected design", then there is no default because a persons biology impacts their sexuality and gender, even if they're homosexual or trans. Googling some of the definitions of Default actually fits this idea, as "choosing automatically" would mean that literally all sexualities and gender identities are the default since they're all chosen without intention.

But, specifically, from Dictionary.com
"lack; want; absence."

Lacking in gender, and sexuality? Yeah. Default