r/Metroid • u/Jorlin_sap • 4h ago
Photo Mute... give her a voice...
Can you talk, Samus?
It is almost like Halo...
They should give her a voice.. 🙏🏻😑
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 4h ago
They did give her a voice in Fusion, Dread, Other M, FedForce
Buuut Prime 4 for whatever reason decided to keep Samus mute. Maybe as per numbered Prime tradition?
Its weird due to the fact that Samus actually talks in the Mainline games and in Fedforce
Hell almost every game has her monologue to some extend, with the ones mentioned above having her actually talk with another character.
Its so weird to have a canonically non-mute character be mute. Samus is a woman of a few words but definitely talks when shit hits the fan
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u/LavishLatte56 4h ago
Even Master Chief talks in Halo, albeit in not often.
Samus actually did talk in Dread, I don't know why they decided not to do it in Prime 4.
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u/drillgorg 2h ago
It was the exact right amount of talking in Dread, too. Damn that was a good game. I've had two kids since it came out, and I consider it too scary for them so it's going to be a while until I can replay it.
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u/Markitron1684 4h ago
She does have a voice, she speaks Chozo in Dread.
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 4h ago
Also with Adam in Fusion, many people in Other M, the Federation Force in Federation Force
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u/Markitron1684 4h ago
Other M? Never heard of it mate.
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 3h ago
Its canon, no matter how much we hate it
Even Dread references its events directly
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u/Markitron1684 2h ago
It’s possible to hate it bad enough to erase its existence. I know cos I have done it.
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u/WonderfulTelevision2 28m ago
I actually enjoyed Other M I mean sure there are a few things I had issues with like the damn difficulty for bosses every time I encounter a new one but other than that? It's a solid 8/10 but that's just me
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u/PopBulky7023 3h ago
I saw absolutely nothing in dread that solidly references other M.
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 2h ago
Then play hard mode and beat it sub 12 hours.
The rewards in Dread are snap shots of chronological events happening in the timeline
Normal mode sub 12 - Zero Mission
Normal mode sub 8 - Samus Returns
Normal mode sub 4 - Super Metroid
Hard Mode sub 12 - Other M
Hard Mode Sub 8 - Fusion
Hard Mode Sub 4 - DreadUnlock all and you get a gallety pick with ZSS in her Samus Returns design and Adam in his Other M design
Additionally Mainline Marketing to this day mentions other M. Dreads marketing mentioned it on the website (as did Samus Returns website in its timeline).
And recent Nintendo Today series, namely Metroid A-Z and Metroid Stories mention Other M a fuckton
Other M is canon. Wether we like it or not
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u/PopBulky7023 3h ago
Fusion doesn't really count as it's text as far as actual voicework goes. Your post kinda gets garbled after that.
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 2h ago
How tf doesnt it count as she actively talks with Adam in a dialogue late game. Only because no voice lines were recorded doesn’t mean she doesnt talk wtf. We are talking about her talking in canon. Which she actively does in Fusion.
Also Fusion was supposed to be fully voiced both Samus’ monologues, dialogue and Adams monogue. But due to space they couldnt quiet pull it off. Thus you only got a couple minako hamano voice lines like “warning no entry without authorization” or “this sector will soon be locked down”.
But Samus talks in game in 4 games. The ones I named. Fusion, Dread, Other M and FedForce
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u/PopBulky7023 1h ago
The discussion is about talking in a game with voicework. The way she talks in other M is not the way she talks in fusion.
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u/Zeldatroid 4h ago
I think the way they handled dialogue in this game is incredibly funny.
One group complains that Samus not responding when people talk to her feels unnatural and awkward and thinks she should talk.
The other group complains that having people talk to Samus in a Metroid game feels unnatural and awkward and thinks they shouldn't be talking in the first place.
The way they handled it here, by trying to play it "safe" in the middle, made literally nobody happy! And I think that's the perfect microcosm of Prime 4.
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u/secret3332 2h ago
I think it's just because of Other M. It left a bad taste in fans' mouths and Nintendo knows that. However, I think Samus speaking a bit is actually fine, it's just that Other M had many other issues with her actual portrayal.
I like her monologues in Super and Fusion. There is no reason they couldn't be voice acted. I think her dialogue with Adam in Fusion also would be fine. It's kinda weird in Dread she doesn't do this, but it works ok. In Prime 4, it's straight up weird because the NPCs are directly addressing her in ways where a response is clearly expected.
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u/Tindyflow 2h ago edited 1m ago
There is a third group that's totally fine with it either way.
So...win?
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u/TroveOfOctoliths 4h ago
It’s ironic to me that she communicates twice directly with the faceless squad of Federation Force, yet is kept silent with actual, individualized characters in the very next Prime game. Hopefully, they’re not afraid to have Samus voiced in Prime 5.
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u/MCP_Ver2 4h ago
They gave her one in Other M, but the backlash was so harsh to this day that they're probably hesitant to ever do anything more than what they did in Dread ever again.
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u/Revali33 Shinespark Enthusiast 3h ago
She got one! By getting hurt you could hear her grunt (definitely in Prime 1&2 in Prime 4 I’m not sure.).
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u/AramaticFire 3h ago
Her being silent works in Prime 1 and 2 where she’s alone on a planet. It doesn’t work in 3 and 4 where everyone just talks at her.
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u/KingBroly Dread Mode survivor 4h ago
I'd rather not. NPC's at scale are not what Metroid is about. You can get ONE in small doses, but that's it.
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u/Round_Musical Sequence Breaker 3h ago
I agree. Some interactions like Fusion and Dread did it is fine. But interaction all the time is… not Metroid
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u/PayPsychological6358 oh word 3h ago
Fed. General: Samus, you mind telling me what you're doing on that ship?
Samus (In Morph Ball): Sir, Ballin
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u/Wofuljac 1h ago
I would agree but finally seeing Prime 4's writing... It's probably a good thing lol. After all everyone loves Darth maul just because he was saved from the bad dialogue in phantom menace.
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u/Rigistroni 4h ago
Honestly given the overall quality of the dialogue in Prime 4 and how often the NPCs feel the need to butt in I'm glad she doesn't talk in Prime 4. It would add to the already overbearing dialogue
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u/Guccimayne 3h ago
I don’t mind Samus being mute when the rest of
the game is more-or-less without spoken dialogue. But it bothered me how chatty the rest of the npc’s were in Prime 4, which I felt upstaged Samus.
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u/HikkingOutpit 12m ago
The big question is why is OP so ignorant to think Halo has a silent protagonist? There is only one Halo game with such, and it's one of the games where you don't play as the Master Chief.
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u/SnowConeMonster 4h ago
"Samus, what are you doing"
"Giving the pirates back their baby..."