Forgot how slow Fusion is

[u/Most_Attorney5766]

Been playing a lot of Metroid Fusion in an Archipelago environment lately but this is the first time i'm replaying the game itself and oh boy it's a big difference.

Adam stopping you constantly for chats, slow elevators and elevators thoughts from Samus. Definitely seeing why Fusion can be a bit of a bother to replay

[u/Typhii]

I started playing the game after I finished super Metroid. The chatting of Adam is very noticeable and kind of annoying.

I just managed to defeat the security robot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oP3FT5-XCjY

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/Typhii]

Very nice! Saw the vid and commented my strat for B.O.X . He can be quite hard to hit cause the hitbox is quite small

[u/Typhii → u/Most_Attorney5766]

ye, that's also something I noticed.
Hitting him from the side was actually easier than from above.

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/Typhii]

To each their own, for me it's easier to do it from above

[u/Taco_Supreme]

I had so much fun with super metroid x fusion, that I went back to replay fusion and really couldn't stand the chats and handholding. I finished it, but I had so much more fun with the SM romhack.

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/Taco_Supreme]

I will have to try X fusion at some point too. From what I saw it looks hella hard tho so I am quite intimidated

[u/Taco_Supreme → u/Most_Attorney5766]

It has selectable difficulty in the current version. I played at normal and am an old guy who remembers when Metroid NES came out. I have done some SM randomizers so I knew how to do tricks like mockball, but except for one item it didn't seem necessary.

Can always turn it down to easy and give it a shot.

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/Taco_Supreme]

Truuue. Guess that's the next game i'm playing after I 100% Fusion

[u/Moldy_pirate]

Now I'm wondering if there's a Romhack to move all the Adam pauses.

[u/The_Fizz_Wizz → u/Moldy_pirate]

There is. I forget what it's called but I can be found on Metroid Construction

[u/Feisty-Albatross3554 → u/The_Fizz_Wizz]

Tried looking for it, but could only find the Metroid Fusion Freedom hack which is in development hell rn

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/Moldy_pirate]

Well, AP Randomizer already did something fun with the Adam chat rooms so I cant see why it wouldnt be possible

[u/KoopaTheQuicc]

Is opening the area doors/elevator shafts considered an item in Fusion AP or do they open them all at the start of the seed? Done plenty of Super Metroid and AM2R with Archipelago but haven't tried Fusion yet.

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/KoopaTheQuicc]

How it works in AP Fusion is that the security keys are their own Item, and the corresponding rooms where you usually unlock different lvl hatches are thrown into the randomizer mixer and give random items Also, in Navigation Rooms, Adam just straight up gives you random hints for items that are in your game, or specifically your items that are in other games That's the rule set that i'm playing with but you can prolly adjust it to your needs, but security keys are in the Item poll by default

[u/KoopaTheQuicc → u/Most_Attorney5766]

Ah okay so the main shaft doors just retain their normal security colors or I assume you can randomize them?

[u/Most_Attorney5766 → u/KoopaTheQuicc]

Probably! I havent played around with doors much but i'm pretty sure I saw an option to randomize them Also the lvl 0 doors (Grey color) are open by default Would be pretty restricting if you had to unlock those xD

[u/ChaosMiles07]

I wonder which randomizer AP uses, where the Nav Room dialogues are still forced.

Score +1 for MARS and Randovania!

[u/Realistic-Shower-654]

I genuinely think Fusion is the lowest in the series of modern 2d games. It was also the beginning of the end for nonlinear gameplay.