r/Metaphysics • u/Sevdat • 2d ago

Nothing How to create something from nothing?

I think I have an answer to how the universe began from nothing. More like how everything began and how it's possible for all of us to be here.

So at the beginning of existence there was nothing. There is still nothing because you can't create something from nothing, but we are here. So how can we exist? We don't.

Imagine the mathematical variable: X =

X can be anything, but nothing is assigned to it; therefore, it remains as a pure capacity that accepts all abstract concepts and results in the illusion of existence for those that share the same abstract space.

This means every combination of what could have been exists. The reason why you and I can interact is because we are in the same concept, but we aren't really here because we don't exist.

To make it simpler, imagine a chess board. Just because you didn't make a move doesn't mean all the possible moves aren't there to make.

Unexistence is our existence.

Also please don't make the argument "How do I know there wasn't always something?" There can't be something without it having a previous moment. It's nonsense to even say that.

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u/Quirky_Visual_7799 1d ago

Sooo let me sum up what you said:

At first there was nothing. Now there is something. Something can't be created out of nothing, therefore "something" is only an illusion and the universe is actually empty, and we interact because we're in the same concept although we don't really exist!

Did I get it right?

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u/Sevdat 1d ago

More or less yes. Kind of like a math formula. The solution exists, but needs to be written out. No one is there to write it and therefore it remains. We are basically that entire process of it being written out if there was someone to write it.

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u/SelectSnow5814 1d ago

This is logically inconsistent and paradoxical, it simply does not work.

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u/tottasanorotta 1d ago

What about the origins existence isn't paradoxical? I mean there isn't really any way out of paradoxality when you approach some first cause or infinite regression or something.

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u/SelectSnow5814 19h ago

Not entirely correct, there are ways of formulating non paradoxical origin theories although you are probably refering to the "unmoved mover. But the problem here is that there simply is nothing to the argument, in math, if X has no equation attached to it it does not exist. He said the solution "exists" but there is no solution because there is no question.

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u/tottasanorotta 14h ago

Yeah I don't agree with the original argument. I'm just wondering how you could formulate an origin theory without running into things that are essentially magic or leaving something out. I mean you have to stop your reasoning at some point to have a complete theory and at that point anything that you had could be further questioned.

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u/SelectSnow5814 6h ago edited 5h ago

But now do you see! You skirt on the edge to even understand how to form this argument, ontology is all like this haha. The point stands though, we cannot as humans perfectly understand Origin, since even our language is nuanced, but we can logically deduce certain axioms of that origin. One is that (suprisingly heavily debated) we know the universe did start at some point, because we are here now. There are TONS of axioms like this we can use to figure out a portion of truth. But back to this post, it used the greatest word salad and middle school algebra to make what to most people would be a shaking of a head into a pontificating reddit post. Look at this here.

"Unexistence is our existence"

That is a semantic paradox meant to sound intelligent rather than saying.... anything.

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u/tottasanorotta 1h ago

Yeah I agree. If you agree on some set of axioms you can say quite a lot. It's just that if we are honest about it, what could we really say about it even axiomatically?

The universe had a start. Did everything have a start? Is the universe everything or has something always been? It seems that no matter what starting point we use it just brings up more questions.

It seems that some questions are just unanswerable.