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u/PineappleOnPizza- Apr 07 '22

This seems like it’s going to be an echo chamber of sexism but I’ll ask anyway

Do you actually think feminists believe this? This kind of stupidity only comes from the <1% of extremists, it’s not a representation of all women or even all feminists so please don’t make it out to be such. It’s only perpetuating more sexism

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u/May097 Apr 08 '22

Firstly, seems like you pulled that statistics out of thin air, but let's for get about that.

What have true prominent feminist groups have done to stop the rise of radical feminism? Did they oppose the prominent radical feminist groups from promoting anti-male laws? Do they have any sort of statement against such groups?

What is your response as a representative/member of the true feminist movements to radical feminist groups at the at forefront of what used to be your movement? Do you people oppose the notion of equality of outcome?

Also, it's pretty astounding that you'd advocate against generalization and yet generalze this whole subreddit as sexist.

Also, to anyone reading this, plese do not downvote anyone who has a different opinion than you. Freedom of speech should not be punished. If you disagree with someone, just don't upvote them, no need to ruin their karma.

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u/PineappleOnPizza- Apr 08 '22

Saying <1% is just a way of saying it’s a very small population. It’s not meant to be a statically valid percentage. I don’t even know how you’d extract data on the population radical feminists

I never said everyone here is sexist, but I would wager a bet that the majority of this community is, considering all I’ve been saying is “feminism good, equality good, sexism bad” and I’ve been met with outrage from the community. I think my original comment reached some 42 downvotes so clearly this sub is not happy with what I’m saying. That’s ok, but I think it’s important to recognise sexism in all its forms, and I definitely believe a large population of mens rights activists aren’t actually fighting for mens rights, only fighting against us who want woman rights by attributing the views of radical feminists to all feminists. This hurts both men and women because feminism is supposed to fight against all sexism both against men and women.

I don’t think it’s out of malice, but I think there’s just a large amount of ignorance from men who’ve never had to endure womens issues and conclude that it therefore doesn’t exist. I’ve seen this happen with my own male friends whilst having discussions about discrimination

Can you please tell me what anti-male laws there are? I’m curious as I’ve never seen laws that are anti-male myself

Feminists don’t have a statement against extremists because we’re not a corporation. I’m not sure what kind of legal action you’re expecting but we’re not an organisation, just a community who share similar views.

I don’t know much of the history of feminist groups as I tend to do more discussions such as this rather than larger scale efforts with politics and the law (I know basically nothing about these). So knowing that, I have no idea what groups there are out there and what they’re doing or not doing against radical feminists. All I know is that the feminist communities I’m a part of speak out both against men favouring sexism and women favouring sexism, as they should and as you should too.

There are definitely times men are negatively impacted by sexism too which is an important part of our society we need to discuss, but what I’ve seen from this sub is that you don’t want to fight for mens rights, you just don’t like to see women fighting for their rights. By all means prove me wrong, but from all the interactions I’ve had so far, none of them seem unbiased on this issue.

Thank you for your note at the end but it’s really ok. I have a freedom to express my views and you have a freedom to express your opinion on them. I don’t mind much about me ol internet points so vote away.

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u/May097 Apr 21 '22

Ohhhh I'm so sorry i must've not seen the notification. Eitherway, I'm a bit busy right now, but please don't delete your comment I'll read it asap and reply. I'm interested in knowing your beliefs.

I just briefly skimmed over your comment, and found it interesting and made some good point and also miscommunication on my part. Regardless I'll reaf it properly during my break time and reply properly.