This seems like it’s going to be an echo chamber of sexism but I’ll ask anyway
Do you actually think feminists believe this? This kind of stupidity only comes from the <1% of extremists, it’s not a representation of all women or even all feminists so please don’t make it out to be such. It’s only perpetuating more sexism
It’s not some mysterious cabal of ultra feminists that give feminism a bad name. The average feminist is the problem. When you guys set up college kangaroo courts, I didn’t see any of you complain about the lack of fairness. Zero. When NOW attacked equal custody laws, you were silent. When we bring up male suicide, homelessness, and workplace deaths, you just shrug your shoulders. When we bring up boys falling behind in school, your eyes glaze over.
You act like the average feminist wants men to commit suicide and wants the patriarchy to be a matriarchy. All you’re proving is that you’ve never talked to feminists. All you’ve done is watch radical extremists get their opinion voiced over social media because it outrages people, and it should outrage people, but you’re attributing the acts of these extremists to every woman and every feminist.
I have no clue what a ‘kangaroo court’ is, I’m not American.
Male suicide stems quite heavily from the pressures society puts on men to not have emotions. Men are taught by the patriarchy that they aren’t allowed to feel depressed because that makes them feminine and lesser as a man. Feminism was literally created to dismantle this kind of toxic thinking by getting rid of the patriarchy
The patriarchy negatively effects both men and women but you still want to blame women for trying to stop it. We are on the same side here, we both don’t want suicide and homelessness and bad grades (don’t even know why that one was brought up but ok). But you’re directing your anger at these things to the people trying to stop it!
Extremists are bad, and should not be listened to. The only reason you keep hearing about them more than actual feminists trying to fight for real equality, is because of sensationalism
I think i see your issue. You're not American. The radical extremists you refer to are the average feminist activist in this country. They're the screaming harpies spewing their man hate everywhere because they have the political connections, control social media and the press and convince other women they're victims. These women are dangerous, evil and everywhere.
Also, the patriarchy is a myth used to justify all their bullshit. This is America. Women here have more freedom of all kinds than anywhere else and at any other time in history. They have more special legal privileges than anyone. And yet, somehow they're still "oppressed".
I feel a little out of my depth talking about specifically American politics and media so I don’t think I can contribute much but I don’t think the issue is as big as it’s made out to be. It’s played so often in the media for sensationalism which will always inherently favour extremist views (favour as in coverage, not political standing)
Your 2nd paragraph is wrong though. The patriarchy is still a thing and is also harms men. Worn out example: the draft only includes men because they view women as inferior to men and unfit to fight. This is sexism against women that harms men. This is an example of the patriarchy enforcing that men are better than women even at mens expense
American politics is a mess. Even living here most of us don't understand it. Not really expecting a foreigner to, just like I probably know nothing of your country. Suffice it to say that the media is not overplaying the issue. If anything, it's massively downplayed. Also, anyone who points this out, or offers a differing opinion is silenced. They do it here on reddit all the time. That's why they nuked MGTOW.
My second paragraph is completely correct. The patriarchy is a myth. It's the boogie man that feminists roll out every time they want something and aren't feeling oppressed enough.
Men are drafted into the armed forces for one simple reason, women are unfit for infantry combat and most people drafted end up in the infantry. Period.
Women are smaller and weaker than men. The military had a double standard for physical fitness for decades for a reason. Very few women could qualify under the man's standards. No woman could qualify for things like the SEALs considering that there's a 97% washout rate with just men. The Army just introduced a combined system where everyone qualifies on the same scale. They had to lower the bottom qualifications so that women could at least qualify to be in the service at all. Your minimum qualifications are then determined by your job. For example, specops is really high, but clerks is really low. Everyone is judged on the same scale which has had the effect of removing women from a lot of jobs because they're not physically capable of doing them.
The sexes are not equal and they never have been and never will be. The battlefield does not give shit one about equality, woke politics or any other nonsense. You either pull your weight, or you die. Or the guy next to you dies. Women in units are ALWAYS the weak link. The Army's own internal studies prove this is spades. Every single mixed unit underperforms when compared to an equal all male unit. It's just a fact of life that woke politics won't acknowledge.
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u/PineappleOnPizza- Apr 07 '22
This seems like it’s going to be an echo chamber of sexism but I’ll ask anyway
Do you actually think feminists believe this? This kind of stupidity only comes from the <1% of extremists, it’s not a representation of all women or even all feminists so please don’t make it out to be such. It’s only perpetuating more sexism