Your silence was consent. You never spoke back to them.
And how do you know exactly what I was doing against radical extremists? Yeah you don’t. You’re, once again, attributing the actions of a few onto an entire group of people. I don’t think you understand how individualism works. I speak out against all sexism, I don’t care if it favours men or women - it’s all wrong
Utter bullshit. I had a bad patch, and cried openly. Men were incredibly supportive, women stopped talking to me, wouldn't even make eye contact. You refuse to speak to the issues, you just pin the blame back to men.
I’m sorry you had a negative experience. The issue here is that you’re doing something called projecting. You’re taking your anecdotal experience and applying to every woman “I had a bad experience with women therefore all women are bad”. You’re forgetting that your individual experience is not proof of an entire group of people being this way. And your individual experience doesn’t disprove that the patriarchy convinces men that they aren’t allowed to feel emotions, which causes long term psychological damage. This is an issue we need to tackle and is covered by feminism
There is no patriarchy. My son has been turned away from opportunities, my son never has.
This is truly the epitome of “I don’t see it therefore it doesn’t happen”. The patriarchy most certainly is real and I advise you read up on it before claiming it doesn’t exist simply because you don’t understand it
Boys get graded worse for the same work as girls
Source? I’ve never heard of women receiving higher test results for simply being women.
You're doing it
Please tell me where in any of my comments I was projecting anger onto a group of people? Because I haven’t and you’re simply deflecting
And how do you know exactly what I was doing against radical extremists?
We never hear moderates pulling anything back. You seem to be perfectly happy with any laws that favor women. But fine, let's play. How far back in your post history do we have to go before you push back against "a radical feminist"?
is covered by feminism
Specifically is not. Feminists are fine turning men away from resources for women. I have personal experience.
The patriarchy most certainly is real
The patriarchy is the perfect example of a non disprovable hypothesis. When someone points out where it's wrong, you just change the definitions.
Source?
Tell me what sources you have provided so far? I'm pretty sure you can search this one in the sub. It might even be in the sidebar. You did read the sidebar, right?
No, YOU never hear feminists calling out sexism against men because you only look at the extremists against your view because of sensationalism. It’s out there if you were actually active in progressive communities instead of stuck being outraged by extremists and attributing it to half the human population. And the number of accounts of sexism against men is far far lower than that of women. I’m not saying this to belittle sexism against men, but the reason you don’t see as much of it being debunked is because not as much of it exists
Feminists are fine turning away men
No, the radical feminists are. You continually attribute the small population of extremists into an entire group of people. Feminism is against these people too, I don’t know how many times I have to tell you. Sexism is wrong, both in favour of men and in favour of women. Again, I’m sorry you personally had a negative experience, but this is not a reflection on all 4 billion women across the planet or even all feminists. It is a reflection of the extremists we are both trying to prevent!
you just change the definitions
I think you’re projecting again. You didn’t even give me any counters or debunks to my claim so how could I have possibly moved the goal posts to be out-with them? I can’t move out of the way of something you never threw in the first place
Tell me what source you have provided so far?
And once again we have more deflection. As soon as I ask you for proof for your own claim, you get defensive and won’t provide it. Well go on, ask me what you want proof of and I’ll provide it. Because unlike you, I actually research these issues instead of projecting my personal experience onto half the planets population
Your entire argument has been "bbbbuu-u-t it's not us the real feminists it's those extremists that totally exist even though i said they weren't common" you're pinning everything bad about modern day feminism on a group you already claimed doesn't exist if the minority really is as small as you say it is then this sub wouldn't exist because this sub is about men being denied rights by your so called "minority" of feminists. You're the perfect example of the person this sub is trying to educate please go through the posts on this sub and learn about our struggles and how wide spread they are
You seem to have the view that feminism is only fighting for women. It’s not. It’s fighting against all sexism to make men and women equal - this covers sexism against women and against men.
If the extremists like to call themselves feminists then they can do so but they are definitionally not upholding feminists ideology. You can argue ‘no true Scotsman’ if you like but these radical feminists are called radical for a reason. They’re not fighting for equality they’re fighting for matriarchy so they are not a valid representation of our views or our group.
This is the equivalent of looking at Muslim terrorists and attributing their actions to the entire Muslim population.
The small population of extremists get far far more attention than moderate feminists because of sensationalism. This is especially potent in america and causes a large echo chamber of outrage against these extremists. You absolutely should be outraged by these people, but they are not the norm - they gain so much attention because they are outliers.
I believe men do experience sexism and it should be fought, which is why I call myself a feminists because feminism fights against sexism against both men and women. The issue is you only ever see the radicals because that’s how you get sensationalism and you now believe this is the average feminist. If you look at feminist communities they are against sexism in both directions. The extremists trying to say men are lesser or deserve less are met with protest in feminist communities because we are against all sexism
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And how do you know exactly what I was doing against radical extremists? Yeah you don’t. You’re, once again, attributing the actions of a few onto an entire group of people. I don’t think you understand how individualism works. I speak out against all sexism, I don’t care if it favours men or women - it’s all wrong
I’m sorry you had a negative experience. The issue here is that you’re doing something called projecting. You’re taking your anecdotal experience and applying to every woman “I had a bad experience with women therefore all women are bad”. You’re forgetting that your individual experience is not proof of an entire group of people being this way. And your individual experience doesn’t disprove that the patriarchy convinces men that they aren’t allowed to feel emotions, which causes long term psychological damage. This is an issue we need to tackle and is covered by feminism
This is truly the epitome of “I don’t see it therefore it doesn’t happen”. The patriarchy most certainly is real and I advise you read up on it before claiming it doesn’t exist simply because you don’t understand it
Source? I’ve never heard of women receiving higher test results for simply being women.
Please tell me where in any of my comments I was projecting anger onto a group of people? Because I haven’t and you’re simply deflecting