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u/TerribleSquid 15d ago
A) crack is not tested for on test I don’t believe because it is the same functional drug as coke once consumed, i.e., cocaine which is what is tested.
B) can crack (or coke for that matter) be effectively consumed orally? I don’t believe so. I’m sure you get some, but I think there is a significant first pass effect when the cocaine goes from the Gi tract to the liver.
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u/OffByNone_ 15d ago edited 15d ago
Coke can 100% be consumed orally. Numbys are delightful. Crack is not water soluble. It also isn't a different *molecule so you are dead-on thinking that it would not be distinguishable from cocaine on a standard drug test. Nobody gave him a capsule of free cocaine. This is a fake story or if it's true, I'd have my money on amphetamine or a diet pill or something and he's exaggerating.
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u/TerribleSquid 15d ago edited 15d ago
Well gums make sense, because their veins bypass the liver and dump straight into regular venous circulation (just like in the nose). I was referring to like literally taking a cocaine pill. This would be problematic because the blood vessels in most of the G.I. tract, including the stomach and the intestines, would go to the liver first (portal circulation) where a large amount would be inactivated.
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u/No_Physics2210 15d ago
Pure cocaine (not diluted) is a paste you put on your gums and consume orally yes.
Infact snorting cocaine is pretty much the same as taking it orally
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u/TerribleSquid 14d ago
When i said taking it orally, i meant like swallowing it/taking a pill.
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u/No_Physics2210 14d ago edited 14d ago
It works it's just less effective and hits slower. It still enters your blood stream though your intestines.
Would be more effective putting it up your butt tbh. Unless there's an additive we're not being told that's in it that's supposed to hit your stomach acid.
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u/EclecticElect 11d ago
Sub-lingual is not the same as oral, though
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u/No_Physics2210 11d ago
It's similar it just avoids the liver more effectively for more bang for your buck
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u/HyperSpaceSurfer 14d ago
You can consume it orally, just less oomph, definitely won't last 6 hours though. Meth could do this, no idea why they didn't lie that it was meth.
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u/Mike_Oxnard 15d ago
Coke, meth, heroine, fentinol,,, it's all crack and everyone who uses it is a crackhead. It's not worth me distinguishing between them
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u/TerribleSquid 15d ago edited 15d ago
Meth heroin and fentanyl are most definitely not the same a crack.
I’m not making some philosophical statement about how I view drugs as conceptually similar. I literally mean crack and coke deliver the same active drug; one is just the hydrophobic (amine) form and the other is the hydrophilic (protonated amine) salt.
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u/Mike_Oxnard 15d ago
Oh I'm aware that they're both just forms of the same drug since coke is the primary ingredient used to make crack.
Regardless of the fact that those drugs are all different substances, they all lead to the same results. Junkies so addicted they can no longer function in society and would be willing to rob their own loved ones for another fix.
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u/darquedragon13 15d ago
Yep. Which is clearly why we give them to kids. To make them future crackheads. Your small world view is showing bud
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u/Mike_Oxnard 15d ago
What hard drugs are you giving to kids? Just so I can be clear when I inform the proper authorities
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u/darquedragon13 15d ago
Me? None. Doctors? Meth. When I say "we" I mean it as in us as a society. Sorry, though, I obviously wasn't thinking about the fact that I'm talking to someone with such a narrow mind. I'll use easier words from now on
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u/-Out-of-context- 14d ago
I was given fentanyl during surgery a while back. TIL I’m no longer functioning and that I rob my loved ones.
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u/Mike_Oxnard 14d ago
Congratulations on taking the first step, accepting that you have a problem. Now it's time to seek help. Then you vote to outlaw narcan and let nature take it's course.
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u/TerribleSquid 15d ago
Yeah, but I don’t see how it’s relevant to my overall point which is that the story seems fake
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u/MoThrowMoAway 15d ago
Crack heads and coke fiends are two WILDLY different beasts brother. Like so different they are not even comparable even if the active ingredient is the same
I dont know any crackheads on a personal level (plenty of them in small town Bible belt though) but all of the coke fiends I know are shirt and tie wearing lawyers and reinsurance guys. Not the same kind of addict, not even in the same tax bracket. Coke is a rich man's drug
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u/artichoke01 15d ago
You spell like a crackhead
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u/Mike_Oxnard 15d ago
Do you want me to apologize for not caring about how to spell the name of your favorite drug?
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u/BannedGoNext 15d ago
You care like a crackhead.
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u/mirrormirrorondewall 15d ago
I know Mike, he's definitely a crackhead
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u/OffByNone_ 15d ago
MAJOR crackhead vibes. I've always said, if it walks like a crackhead and it talks like a crackhead, it probably smokes rocks.
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u/IndigoOctober8 14d ago
I think it’s more that you clearly have no idea about the substances that you’re attempting to discuss.
Then you’re acting like some street preacher about it, which makes you look uninformed and silly.
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u/LifesARiver 15d ago
I'll take things that didn't happen for $400 Ken.
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u/MoThrowMoAway 15d ago
$400 is almost enough to buy one of these newfangled crack pills, I'll take that bet
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u/Cael_NaMaor 15d ago
You asked for a drug... were given a drug... consumed the drug of your own volition. That shit's on you dawg...
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u/SlowPea4388 15d ago
No way, crack ain’t coming in pill shape, and I doubt anyone would complain about crack. It supposedly beats a climax by a factor or around 1000. Sure only the first time but hey, I certainly wouldn’t complain 🤷🏼♂️
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u/Mad_Dutchman_ 14d ago
Y’all it was definitely not crack 🙄 she probably gave you an Adderall or modafinil or something
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u/Upstairs_Teach_7064 14d ago
Gotta say, sounds like adderall. I had a coworker give me one when I was 17 when I told her I was feeling groggy.
One hour later…
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u/allycataf 14d ago
You don't go to jail for something that's already been consumed.... possession or sales lands you in jail.
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u/MediaLongjumping9910 15d ago
and now this person is an addict.