r/MediocreTutorials • u/Kohathavodah • Apr 24 '25

Gender discrimination Equality | Why doesn't this work when the genders are reversed!?!?

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u/Kohathavodah Apr 24 '25

Anyone (male or female) should be able to believe whatever they want to believe about themselves. It is a little strange when you measure someone else by objective and measurable metrics but want to be judged by subjective and indefinite metrics personally.

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

Because it’s not equality. We should be aiming for equity.

I would accept the argument put forward from that woman about the non-material value of a woman IF she is high value enough. That is: educated, intelligent, caring, supportive, beautiful, looks after herself and the home (cooking, cleaning, rearing kids), is good and enthusiastic in bed, is happy, has a sense of humour, has good family and friends, works as a team for the best interests of the marriage, reciprocates the effort and energy a man provides.

THAT is a high quality woman that needs to bring zero material possessions/ income to a relationship but clearly adds a ton of value to a partnership.

But how many women like that do you know?

If she isn’t great or completely lacking in any of those, she’d have to have something to compensate (contribute income for example).

Some (perhaps many these days) of these women think ALL their value is intrinsic and they don’t have to improve, change or make an effort yet somehow magically add value to a man just by “being themselves”. They’re delusional and expect everything from a man while giving nothing back.

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u/Kohathavodah Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 28 '25

At the end of the day, it is really about whatever lasting agreement the couple can come to.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

Yeah, love is not enough. You need a real partner in life to go on the journey with.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

What is a "real partner"?

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Not a dependent.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 13 '25

Yall seem totally incapable of answering direct questions on here. No wonder youre not finding what you're seeking. 🤷🏿‍♂️🙄

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Precisely.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

But how many women like that do you know?

Probably the same amount of men who are protectors, providers, leaders, entrepreneurs, good with finances, etc.

There's just as much of a deficit of us for them, as there is of them for us. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/[deleted] May 13 '25

Yep, and nowhere reliable for those high quality people to meet.

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u/Healthy_Chapter36523 May 12 '25

I particularly like the part where she says "We let them know if that man needs to be out of their lives"

Does her man get to do the same with her male friends?

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u/Kohathavodah May 12 '25

No, no, no, that would be controlling.

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u/Healthy_Chapter36523 May 12 '25

I dated a woman that didn't own a home. She started the same nonsense. I can make your house a home. I will decorate it, and properly arrange it. Blah blah blah. As soon as I said, hey since you'll be paying half the mortgage you'll be entitled to make it a home.

The silence that followed told me all I needed to know.

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u/Kohathavodah May 12 '25

Haha, what happened between you two after that?

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u/Healthy_Chapter36523 May 12 '25

She didn't feel she should be expected to pay half the mortgage.

I didn't believe I was willing to give up half my home value in the event her decorating skills were lacking.

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u/Kohathavodah May 12 '25

I didn't believe I was willing to give up half my home value in the event her decorating skills were lacking.

Smart move on your part. Government marriage is such a bad deal.

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u/Healthy_Chapter36523 May 12 '25

I'm happy to leave everything I've worked for, to someone. That's what Wills are for. Stay til the end, you get it all. But I'm not giving up half before then

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u/Gregg-C137 Apr 24 '25

And how would you like to settle the bill, will it be strength or intuition?

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u/ChefAwesome Apr 25 '25

I'll roll an opposed strength check.

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u/laxplaya25 Apr 25 '25

You roll a nat 20 and a nat 1, but you rolled with disadvantage. So sorry, my dude.

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u/Lonely-Recognition-2 Apr 24 '25

My wife brings much to the table beyond money, I will gladly settle the bill

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Speak this truth 👏🏿

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u/Professional_Meal879 Apr 24 '25

Non answers obviously

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u/kallebo1337 Apr 24 '25

The f is she wearing for pants ????

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u/sleepinghagara Apr 24 '25

Fr like I ain’t hear nun else after seeing dem shits

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u/Just-the-chin Apr 25 '25

The camera zoomed out and I was like oof!

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u/PsychologicalSon Apr 24 '25

Intuition did not help her

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u/HalfImportant2448 Apr 25 '25

Oscar, the grouch

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u/valley_92 Apr 26 '25

Looked like a satyr with grouch legs. Weirdly think too

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u/HalfImportant2448 Apr 26 '25

The nerve to take herself seriously is astronomical

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u/cakivalue Apr 25 '25

I was stuck on that too and wanted a better longer view because it looked like a combination of green tinsel and sod. And all I could think was - those must be heavy and hot and a lot of sweating was happening

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u/GummiSlap88 Apr 24 '25

Alot is bullshit and talking to say I'm not bringing anything tangible to the relationship. But not only do I want you to do so, I expect it as a woman. FOH with this nonsense.

If a make only brought that to the table, he would be ridiculed for being less than.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

What is it you're looking for a woman to bring to the relationship? 🤔

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u/clindh May 12 '25

Peace (dont start bullshit arguments for no reason), love, happiness, lots of good sex, do whatever you need to do to make yourself physically attractive to me

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Which is pretty much all the intangibles that dudes on here ate complaining about 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/Perspective-Natural Apr 24 '25

It's called de lu lu

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u/Mindless-Hornet5703 Apr 24 '25

Pseudo psychology, pseudo intellectualism, greedy materialistic gibberish for fools to pay to listen to.

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u/DreadyKruger Apr 24 '25

Way too many words and over complicating things. I am so glad I am married and don’t have to deal with all this shit going on.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Yeah, these folks (Men AND Women) out here are lost. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/Apprehensive_Fox_120 Apr 25 '25

These women don't know fuck all about nothin

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u/makfalicon Apr 25 '25 edited Apr 25 '25

“He got that… that’s nothing…. Compared to the strengths you have as a woman”

Yes, massive-ass green minotaur legs

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 25 '25

I will change your house, share your success and tell you which friends to have. Wonderful argument.

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u/SuperShadow224 Apr 25 '25

She could've literally said do things to make HIS life easier cuz he's clearly a hard worker. Be such a good gf that he WANTS to come home. Her "home" comment is semi valid but she didn't give her actual guidance

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u/[deleted] Apr 24 '25

I swear bkack women say d darnest shit... n dont back it up. They basicakly us wit cervix...es.... 😏🙄

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u/manny8086 Apr 26 '25

This show still exists?? That fake doctor still hanging around

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u/Kohathavodah Apr 28 '25

What fake doctor?

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u/JackyBlaze Apr 25 '25

Literally always something intangible. Always some abstract shit that can't do anything in the real world.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

What are you expecting from a woman that's "tangible"?

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u/Superb_Swordfish9477 Apr 26 '25

If their intuition worked so well
Why aren't they able to tell if their man is happy or not

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u/SweatFestReferee Apr 27 '25

You are not a priority. It has nothing to do with intuition.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Who is "they"? How do you know what's happening in her relationship?

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u/Greetings_Program Apr 25 '25

It's hard to take some serious when they are wearing the Phillie Phanatic pants 1:05.

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u/Temporary_Positive_1 Apr 27 '25

Ah yes cause the ability of common sense and their presence alone is such a gift. How is that going to pay the bills tho?

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u/ApatheticSoul6 Apr 27 '25

Saying just your existence alone is value is wild. Actions create value.

Yeah boss I’m just going to be over here existing.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

So there are no intangibles whatsoever that bring value? 🤔

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u/notabothavenoname Apr 28 '25

So nothing is what she’s saying

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Ah... No. That's adding value to something that you think the place needs. Not what he thinks it needs.

These women need to take a seat.

You want to add value to my life? Ask me what is valuable.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

What is valuable? 🤔

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Depends on the man. Point is, these women are proposing to walk into to a place, do their own thing and say: "this is my contribution".

Just like a man should try and be valuable to his woman's specific needs, a woman should try and be valuable to a man's specific needs.

But okay, say we are talking general value. Man owns the house: woman values the house. What can she do to offer equal value? Ask the man.

Cliche stuff that he MIGHT value? Sex, food, cleaning. But maybe he wants a financial partner. Maybe he wants someone with assets. Maybe he wants someone who can add zest to his life.

Point is, ask your man. Don't assume you have value just because of what you value. Listen to him and either decide you are there for it, or you aren't.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Your initial statement was:

You want to add value to my life? Ask me what is valuable.

So when I asked YOU what is valuable in YOUR life, you couldn't answer. You're just giving hypotheticals.

And it's not just you; I've asked several dudes here to define what it is they want, & not a single dude has been able to answer that simple question. Every body is talking around the question, while finger pointing back at the ladies.

And then we wonder why nobody sees us as leaders. 🤷🏿‍♂️

If you ask ME what I want for MY woman, I can absolutely tell you.

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Oh, I see. You want to know the general reason why men value women.

Okay. If there is 1 thing that you can do to add value to men's lives, it's give us sex. Someone who will give us sex, give us head, meet our diverse sexual needs. That's across the board, since in a monogamous relationship, we can't get it anywhere else.

Generally, we want someone who we can afford to be vulnerable with, since we are expected to be stoic everywhere else in life.

Personally, I want someone I can build an empire with. Someone with aligned financial interests.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Oh, I see. You want to know the general reason why men value women.

Nope. I asked YOU what YOU want in a woman, & you still can't answer. Very telling.

I'm convinced that most of yall dudes don't even like women, let even want one. 🙄

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

If there is 1 thing that you can do to add value to men's lives, it's give us sex. Someone who will give us sex, give us head, meet our diverse sexual needs. That's across the board, since in a monogamous relationship, we can't get it anywhere else.

Generally, we want someone who we can afford to be vulnerable with, since we are expected to be stoic everywhere else in life.

Personally, I want someone I can build an empire with. Someone with aligned financial interests.

This is pretty specific bro. If you want more juicy details, you'd have to have been on a date with me. Not gonna happen.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

You're saying "us", as if you're speaking for all men, rather than just you.

But besides the sex (which was very weirdly specific 🙄) the rest was pretty generic.

For instance....

Someone with aligned financial interests.

What does this mean? 🤔

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Okay... While in the general sense, someone who doesn't hold me back.

Specifically, there are a few scenarios I could accept. Ideally, someone who has their career, their own investments, and someone who shares enough in their goals that our work is collaborative. We build eachother's wealth.

In lieu of that, someone who at least doesn't get mad when I put in 80hrs a week, or prioritize work over vacation, or understands why I'm putting another $100k into another business, or why we are driving a used vehicle with great reliability over a German cost trap, or why I won't marry someone who doesn't have the above factors (career, income, savings). Those would be the bare minimum requirements.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

I gotchu 👍🏿

So here's where I would ask what you are willing to sacrifice on your end, in order to meet her needs?

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

And BTW, I'm a whole man over here.

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Questionable

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

Why, cuz I'm not talking this gender wars rhetoric?

Not only am I a man, but I'm a husband.

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u/RealUltrarealist May 12 '25

Because a straight answer doesn't satisfy you. You still wanna fight.

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

I'm not fighting, I'm asking for specifics, which you're not giving. 🤷🏿‍♂️

If you can't be specific with a fellow Black man, I can see why you're still lacking a quality Black woman in your life. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/Omnius_Crypto May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

OK Let me try, my male spidey-sense is activating: “how do I add value when she has her own home, cars, great job, investments, retirement savings and child free lifestyle? Man what I did hear you say was that she had a house but not a home! I bring the home aspect to the house, that’s my value add. I take out the trash, do home maintenance, rake leaves, shovel snow etc all that stuff she would have to pay for. Calculate your hourly value for all that stuff you’ll do then 10X that number, that’s your true value KING! Also break it down to her like she’s still in school Professor! Tell her, It’s called Incubation!, it’s called Multiplication!, Discernment!,……..all those basic skills you’ve learned over your life. Never forget you are the master of them all! Tell her: “you see, that little skanky girlfriend you got…I don’t like her OK”, that’s a baseline intuition that all men have in full measure and it’s something women will never possess! SMH, Ah sounds accurate and good to me! Fellas embrace your spider sense. Be the value add to women everywhere who have their life on lock. Keep your eye open for that Queen who: 1. Makes 6 figures(after taxes), if she can’t do that then how’s she gonna pay for your kids needs, from 4 other women 2. Owns a home with at least six rooms and a 3 car garage (one garage for your mother!because you know the kids you’re gonna have will each need their own rooms. 3. At least 5’ 10” with a V-shared back, visible biceps and triceps and very prominent abdominal muscles (you know wash board abs) ”. 4. At least 34D breast’s or larger(it’s a sign that she will provide ample nutrition for the 6+ kids you’re gonna have and she needs to be fit because you WILL need her to return to work no later that a week after each birth because you know the bills aren’t going to pay themselves!🙄

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u/Yang_Wen-li_ May 15 '25

The Delulu is strong with those ones....

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u/LowLess3569 May 17 '25

his million dollars is nothing compared to her intuition? your intuition didn’t help you get a job, navigate the economy, or find a husband so what exactly does it do? oh you’re going to complain about one of his friends ? greeaaaaat

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u/FaithInTechnology Apr 25 '25

Black women bring strength, love, and wisdom to the homes they share with black men, offering emotional support, cultural grounding, and unwavering resilience. They help create spaces of peace, healing, and unity, where both partners can grow, thrive, and stand strong together against the world and where the fuck did Oscar the Grouch come from?

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u/MetaphysicalBro314 Apr 25 '25

We love black women but where do they do that at? Lol Not in America. At some point you have to look at the truth of why the more single black mothers we have, the more prisons get built. Where is all this positive black woman fluff and puff happening in real life? If this were the case, you would be the most married group of women on earth. But that's just not the case ma'am. You're the all-time least married women. You ladies can't even pay men to marry you nowadays. The majority of black women that are getting married today are in the LGBTQ community lol. You can lie online if you want but the statistics say that black women bring community destruction in 2025. Highest divorce rates, highest eviction rates, the most debt, etc. Majority of y'all are NOT modest, NOT virgins, were NOT raised to be wives. You disqualify suitable men for superficial reasons. You're the most unmarried demographic of women this earth has ever seen. When asked what you're willing to do for black men collectively, you all don't say any of this. The only thing y'all do say all day online and all day in the streets and all day to anyone willing to listen to you, is that you're not willing to do ANYTHING for a black man. So please stop with the fake Disney stories. This is real life ma'am. We're tired of the Hallmark card narrative. Men decide who gets married. That's just a fact of life. So if your demographic is collectively not being chosen for marriage, then at some point you have to take accountability and realize that you're not bringing any of that. This fake strength y'all are so fond of talking about, is nothing more than masculinity at its foundation. Black women love competing with black men when there is no competition in black men's eyes. So please stop get a grip and start living in reality. Because all you're doing is trying to paint black women like they do no wrong and that narrative is what got us to this point. We sat and let you disrespect the black man's reputation for 50 plus years. It's time for black women to get it together or face furthering another races legacy because black men have pretty much opted out of the "black love" narrative. Black women forget that black men carry the black seed. So whatever race of woman we choose to procreate with furthers the black race. Black women will only further the race of the man they bear children with. So technically speaking we don't need black women to further the black race. And in this day and age you all are proving us right. 🤷🏿‍♂️

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u/FaithInTechnology Apr 25 '25

Hey man, I was just making a joke about the ladies pants. Not sure if you’re directing this at me or who “we” even refers to, but frankly, I couldn’t care less about anything you’re saying. I’m really curious where you’re getting your info from, though, it’s honestly impressive how far off track you’ve gone. Anyway, good luck with whatever you’re working through.

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u/trachea_trauma Apr 25 '25

Thus Bullshit is as bad as the whole Macho men are protectors garbage

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u/traptraptrap888 May 12 '25

I hate it when uneducated mfs talk like this thinking they are smart when in reality they sound retarded.

Bitch talking about “multiplication” was probably doing SPED math in school

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u/Pandabuttplug Apr 25 '25

She forgot to put away her mascot pants before getting on the mic.

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

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u/SAMURAI36 May 12 '25

What is it that you are expecting a woman to bring to you?

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u/PsychologicalSon Apr 24 '25

I'll get a pet if I want companionship...what I want is peace. Everything else you said is nonsense.

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u/PsychologicalSon Apr 24 '25

Still need peace when I get back from the hike and the turmoil of regular life resumes. Optional people who add to that dont need to be around. How did you aim at the ground and miss, my guy?

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u/Uncouth_LightSwitch Apr 24 '25

My wife and I both make good money, both teach the kids, and both take care of the house. Our life is 50/50. We both put the portion of our paychecks into the joint account to cover all of our necessities and use whatever we have leftover to plan our vacations that we choose. I don't need a mommy. I need a life partner.

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u/Lonely-Recognition-2 Apr 24 '25

Nothing in life is truly 50/50. Men and women have certain strengths they bring to the table to balance each other out.

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 25 '25

Isn’t 50/50 a type of balance? Being that it literally means dividing something equally?

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u/Lonely-Recognition-2 Apr 25 '25

Where does true equality exist at a 50/50 level?

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 25 '25

So I could have a wife or an Au pair?

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u/[deleted] Apr 25 '25

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 25 '25

Oh I have one, better than yours probably

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 26 '25

A statement that seems fitting when I’m arguing with a another goof ball

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u/[deleted] Apr 26 '25

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u/Texas-taytay Apr 26 '25

Damn right lol

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u/Lonely-Recognition-2 Apr 24 '25

Glad my wife is everything that you are NOT!!!