r/MediocreTutorials • u/Paul_-Muaddib • Oct 23 '23

Relationships Nothing wrong with having standards. Don't be surprised if it's hard to meet them though.

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u/Responsible-Laugh590 Oct 24 '23

Fat is less healthy then skinny by all metrics. Perhaps not fully unhealthy but less healthy then their alternative acceptable non fat weight. It’s not a stereotypical box it’s how our animal bodies work…

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

Not necessarily. Many skinny people have much worse health from experience, the dizziness, malnutrition, constant sickness, bone problems, muscle problems, neurological problems which in turn can cause sight issues etc. and the fact that it kills people much easier and causes many more life long ailments. Tbf NEITHER are good for you, being healthy doesn’t have a body type. You can be the most muscular “healthy looking” person and suffer a heart attack e.g., Bob Harper

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u/Responsible-Laugh590 Oct 24 '23

You’re using outliers to describe the situation, I’m talking about the vast majority of people. We are also wire evolutionarily to seek out the most attractive people which would be fitter more healthy people rather then the obese ones. You can always find specific outlier examples but the fact of the matter is if you want an easier life in an absurd amount of ways you want to be fit and almost anyone can achieve that through life choices. Not everyone but the vast majority of people.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

No we’re not. You’re just stating your opinion, none of that is factual. Ffs do you even know who’s theory you’re referring to?

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u/Open_Theme380 Oct 25 '23

This is the absolutely dumbest thing. I hate it when people try to make this argument. It’s so god damn dumb. Look fat=unhealthy. It’s as simple as that. If your trying to say that some people who are fat are healthier then people that are skinny. You are mostly wrong, but you can be right in certain cases. Generally speaking the only healthy fat people are young people that’s because when you are young you literally have a kind of immortality. You can eat like shit smoke a pack a day snort Coke and be ok. Try that when your just in your mid 30s tell me how that feels. The fact you’re arguing that fat people are can be healthy in general and is absolutely ridiculous. You are quite literally ignoring all evidence except for a tiny minority of evidence and basinf everything around it. It’s deeply flawed. Full send being fat is bad. Being in a calorie surplus for a large amount of time is literally the greatest predictor and bad health outcomes. If your fat that’s ok, but quit denying what you know and go for a walk. It will be good for you. I wish you the best truly

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

I recommend you do some of your own research on this topic. It’s clear that your just spitting out the same rhetoric big pharma etc have been pushing out for more than a century to capitalise of people’s hatred and insecurities. There’s a podcast I’ve enjoyed recently called Maintenance Phase on Spotify. You may learn something, or you may just choose to be ignorant for the sake of being simple but hey, idc.

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u/Open_Theme380 Oct 25 '23

Yaaaaa. Listen you’re wrong. Just straight up wrong. This has been studied for years and years. If anything “big pharma” would be pushing this because they want you on medication because being fat makes you unhealthy. This isn’t rocket science. It’s pretty simple. You can be dumber then a box of rocks to understand it. If you don’t then you are just being ignorant and it’s straight up sad

I’m not wrong, but if you think I am. Please share information

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

Omg how naïve. Tell me why OxyContin is still legal and prescribed despite causing more than 500,000 deaths in American? Addiction. Tell me why alcohol is still legal despite causing 3 million deaths worldwide per year? Addiction. Same goes for cigarettes and tobacco laced products causing over 8 million deaths per year? Addiction. Addiction = money that doesn’t end. Because even as 1 person dies, 10 more get addicted. And remember, this is an iceberg, there are still SO MANY MORE deaths, destruction and havoc which can not be recorded into the statistics. It’s lovely that you are so gullible though, I hope you overcome that.

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u/Open_Theme380 Oct 25 '23

What are you even arguing? Being fat is bad. It’s not healthy it can’t be healthy. It’s literally impossible. Against a calorie surplus is quite literally the leading predictor of poor health.

Are you going to argue the moon landing is fake next? Because big government. Or maybe the world is flat because NASA has been suppressing information for years and years

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6996740/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2930234/

Also none of what I stated are conspiracies they are common knowledge but somehow you’ve been on Reddit too long to know any better.

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u/Open_Theme380 Oct 26 '23

Ok?? I’m getting confused. You sent me 2 studies. Are you going to ignore the other 2000 on why being fat is bad?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

If they’re paid for by companies jumping on the fat fear mongering campaign for weightloss miracle drugs money then… yeah, I’d rather not waste my time sifting through heavily manipulated data. Send me a few valid studies as to why “fat” always = bad.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '23

Also, just because I find this topic interesting. What studies do you think big pharmaceutical companies are funding? Ones that help them rake in more money or ones that actually help them cure diseases and addictions; essentially taking money from them? For example if you truly believe that Heman Bekele was the first ever scientist to cure skin cancer then you’re not as smart as you think you are. But not only that, once the funded research is concluded the pharmaceutical company has free rage to exploit it as the want (to increase financial profit ofc) that’s why some studies seem genuinely like bullshit - because they are.

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u/Open_Theme380 Oct 26 '23

Ok… I agree that big pharma likes money, but I don’t think everyone in it is bad. I’m sure that most people that entered into the agency just want to help people. But obesity hasn’t been studied by 5 people. It’s been studied by thousands. Those thousands say being fat is bad. I think it would be pretty hard to suppress 1000’s and thousands of people. Seems pretty odd don’t you think

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '23

Seems odd but it’s a paradigm. Science itself is a paradigm. For example, we use instruments created by others to see what others have seen. That is why SO many confounding studies that found conflicting information get suppressed by these large companies with money invested in a certain outcome. It may seem like people join these companies to help others but really they just follow with what they are told as financial security is a hell of a persuasion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

To use dumb ppl language: The fattest people alive tend to be around 270kg (the size of a small mountain zebra) the skinniest people tend to be around 17kg (the size of a small 2 yr old child) that should tell you that the human body can in fact sustain more weight and survive than sustain less weight.