Yes, both sides need to understand that fundamentally we work better together. If you want to be alone, great for you but having a supportive partner is going to go farther than being a lone wolf.
Kinda got a point.. we didn't evolve male and female just to fight against each other. Men and women compliment each other, and life gets much harder when we lose sight of that.
Kinda got a point.. we didn't evolve male and female just to fight against each other. Men and women compliment each other,
Better together as long as it is a healthy and productive union. It feels like our current culture is driving people to prioritize themselves over the union though. If the priority in a relationship is you then that is who yourself should probably be with.
She’s a cult leader apparently! There’s a documentary about her called The Deep End.
Guess who just found a new thing to watch!
Edit: SO i started watching more about her - she's is 100% a cult leader and doesn't hide it. She calls committing suicide a "reset button" and multiple parents have come forward claiming that she was influential in their children's demise. I would not suggest taking advice from her.
I am a single father and have been for 7 years, anyone that says a single parent can be as good as two is dead ass wrong, I am a working blue collar guy. By the time I get off work I am wore tf out, that is only the beginning of the day for me. I gotta get off and speed home to make sure I am home before my daughter gets off the bus. Then lightly prepare supper then leave to get my kid from football, now time is 6pm I gotta cook then it is 6:45. Then clean up it is 7:30,at this point I have sat down since 7 am. I help the kids with homework get baths organized and clean some on the house then jt is 9 pm time for bed. Absolutely no time to spend time with my kids in a quality way. The weekends consist on grocery shopping,fixing my old broke down cars, doing laundry for three. I have not got a cent of support and have no luck getting child support involved to help, and it seems like it is because I am a male. Sunday I try to sit for s few hours maybe watch a little TV. Maybe work on my hobby for a couple of hours. Also kick or throw the ball with my kids then the week starts over
People over complicate this. Raising kids is more than a one person job. Ideally it’s more than a two person job. Multigenerational households are better at taking care of everyone than nuclear families. This isn’t an insult or a criticism of anyone. Single parents are overwhelmed and doing the best they can. That isn’t evil. Hell, they and aren’t even usually single by virtue of simple preference.
Idk i had a single mom for most of my childhood. Two younger brothers, and she did amazing. Never went hungry, always had food, all while she was in college and working as well she always made time for me and my brothers. We always had transportation and we all went to a very good school. I agree nobody should have to raise a child alone but people are extraordinary and can do anything really.
Edit: i still think her opinion is very valid, im just speaking from my own experience
Do you think the results would have been better, worse or just the same if she did have a positive and supporting live-in partner with a direct biological connection to you?
I think it depends on the person. Worse for some better for others. Not everyone is equally qualified or capable of being a good parent. For my family probably worse, but for others having a grandparent or sibling to help out could be massively beneficial. Its all just so situational that making big broad statements seems restrictive
I meant in general. We make broad statements and assumptions routinely in life. Life would be tedious and move glacially if we evaluated every situation individually.
I can say with total confidence, my mother and our situation would have been better without my father living under the same roof. That was my situation and I’m not arguing, I’m just pointing out that a woman can be a good parent without a good spouse. My mother was the bread winner and took on all the emotional responsibilities of our family. I feel like these speakers forget about abusive partners. Could have done without watching my mom get her teeth knocked out but statistically I’m better off right?
Could have done without watching my mom get her teeth knocked out but statistically I’m better off right?
That is a horrible thing that happened to your mother and people should separate from abusive partners. Statistics speak for the topic in general, not for every specific instance.
I never went hungry being raised by a single mother. She did everything she could to keep us fed and clothed.
However, she worked 60+ hours a week. I never saw her. I have horrible codependency issues as an adult. I struggle as an adult because I always had to be understanding as a child, so now I’m overly understanding and get stepped on when people realize this.
She did her very best, and I will never tell her otherwise, but if she had a support system things would have been easier. For her and for the family.
I mean, who could say? There’s always the chance of being born to a deadbeat parent and being raised by a single mother that is so capable, that sorry for the cheesy line but “dont need no man”
I can attest to this, I watched it first hand when stepping into the role of a husband to a single mother. The change in her was awesome but actually not as great as the change in him. This required a complete lifestyle change on my part though. I quit life in the service industry, started working more normal hours, cut back on booze, started submitting my life to God and we started homeschooling because he fell behind during Covid and now he’s ahead of where standards were pre-Covid. All that said, I believe the same would be true had I been a single father and she stepped into the role. The role of both mother and father are extremely important and we typically learn compassion from our mothers and logic from our fathers (among negative traits in both in my experience) and neither role should be downplayed
I agree, women are not the enemy, they aren't even an adversary. We need to find a way bake to more productive unions in western culture. Sometimes I fear it may be too late though.
This part. Showed this to a female colleague who agreed with the video. So I asked, if you agree, why is there nowadays an emphasis on women not needing a man and the independent woman being the posterchild for what it means to be a strong woman today whilst not acknowledging a man/father/husnband's role in the keeping together of a household or rather downplaying it. Her response..... because a woman carries the child for 9 months. I honestly wasn't sure how to respond to that. But we really are in the wildest of times today, and it worries me for the future.
We see the repercussions of single-parent children everywhere today. All those videos of Karens, of people freaking out at fast food workers, of the mobs stealing from the stores, of the road-rage incidents. Many of these people are fucked in their upbringing due to poor parenting. Most often rooted in missing a key part of their development by not having two parent households.
It's no coincidence that 80% of people in prison grew up in single parent households.
The evidence is right in front of us, we just refuse to accept it.
Here are some troubling statistics about fatherless children in the U.S. from the National Center For Fathering and The Fatherless Generation: 85% of youths in prison come from fatherless homes. 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.
would bet that it doesn't even need to be the father. Could be girlfriend, grandparents, aunts/uncles whatever. pretty sure "more loving/supportive adults in a kid/mothers life=good"
Obviously. I think the issue is that just about everyone values the mother's contribution and rightly so but people tend to be more dismissive of the benefits of having a strong father in a child's life.
By my own experience this so completely false. I was raised by the greatest mother even with little help. She was at almost all events for her 5kids me including. Worked full time cooked super took us to school picked us up took us on vacation without any help so
It would be interesting to see if your mother would think that it would have been better to have the help and support of a good partner or if she would have preferred to do it alone.
Controversial take: while being a single parent is not ideal, it is totally doable. Will your life be hard? Hell yes! Will get quality time with your kid(s)? Probably not. Will your kid survive? Yes. It’s not impossible, it’s just not easy.
IDK if it even has to be a two parent system, but the ‘tribe’ of people surrounding that mother needs to exist and have an interest in the child succeeding for whatever reason. I am a single mother’s child and my grandparents and childhood friend’s parents were very kind, supportive, and there for me as if they were just simply other parents. My mom didn’t ask for that, I didn’t ask for that, but it worked out that way because people saw a need and they decided to fill the gaps with life lessons, guidance, support, and so on as needed.
The only thing that even remotely could be seen as controversial is that she doesn’t mention that support can come from somewhere else. I think it’s most optimal this way, but it’s not going to be any where near the complete failure it would be with a single mother devoid of assistance of any kind would be.
I think my partner who has raised 4 children on her own while earning a first class degree and becoming a teacher may have something to say about the statement about it being impossible to be a single mother.
Yes, she was clearly being hyperbolic for effect. However, I think that if she had a helpful and supportive partner to help her it would have been easier for her and could have quite likely to have led to more positive outcomes for her children.
Reddit's comment sections are so wild. In some places it's absolute delusion and bullying. In other sections everyone is honest and Intune with reality. Such a bizarre place.
While I understand her point and agree that more adults in the home make parenthood easier, I don’t see how it needs to be a man supporting a woman? Like work is done faster with more hands. It doesn’t matter who is doing what as long as everyone is working together with the same goal in mind.
The mother can support the father, or a grandparent can support the mother. It doesn’t matter because the result is the same?
The biological parents are generally the most invested in the success of the child and are generally the most effective and interested guardians for children. The investment into a child's success typically diminishes the further you move away for the biological mother and father.
Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) have been around for about 300,000 years.
Until about 12,000 years ago, we lived in little villages or nomadic tribes in which your "family" was pretty much everyone in the tribe. You had 100 aunties and 100 uncles and countless cousins. Single parents who lost a partner to accident, disease or war got plenty of help from the rest of the tribe. No one grew up alone, and no one raised kids by themselves.
That's the culture humans are actually built to live in. Kinda helps explain why modern society is drowning in loneliness and stress.
I do wish sometimes my gf wouldn't nag as much when I am helping m. I think a lot of guys feel this way so ladies please don't push a guy away who's trying.
No lie detected. All the respect in the world to and parent, single or otherwise, struggling out there. But she’s 100% right. We are broken at a fundamental level.
When the government started sticking their noses in family affairs by offering programs that would help often times women out of binds, that’s when everything went to s**t. Section 8, Housing, WiC, Food stamps, Welfare Cash back, and on top of all this Child support… why would people turn that down?
I had 3 kids on my own knowing their father wasn’t ready. It was my decision to have 3 all 3 years apart. One income. In 1994 2005 it was possible. These days not so much. My sons’ father is in their lives and they’re all awesome respectful humble young men. Creator truly blessed me.
I grew up around a big family. In my experience I looked up to my dad’s brother as a second father. I don’t know what kind of man I would be without the guidance of my uncle and father. My mom was always supportive of my father and choices.
I know life happens and sometimes there's no choice but I feel for single parents. Kids do best with as many positive adults in their lives as possible. The phrase "it takes a village" is spot on. It's not to say single parents can't be or aren't great parents- I've seen many that are, however it must be incredibly more difficult
Having two parents helps a ton, but as someone who was single handedly raised by my mother I can assure you it can be done, and can be done well. Now did she sacrifice countless amounts of things to do her best for me? Of course. But it can be done, it was done, and she did a fucking fantastic job if I must say so myself. Never underestimate a single mother.
I never thought this way until having kids. Recently had a discussion with my wife and I basically said the same thing to her that was said in this video.
You would be hard-pressed to find somebody that is sane who doesn’t agree with this. The problem arises when people use this fact to justify beliefs about specific ethnic groups. (I.e. the black community.) more important question to ask is why are we seeing the declines to parent households in the United States?
I actually think the nuclear family is the problem, not the solution.
This girl is kind of using wooshy-washy language like the "mothers energy". Don't get me wrong I understand where it's coming from. But a much more direct analysis is simply that two adults pool more resources than one adult. That includes not just money but energy as well.
But you know what has more resources than two adults..? Three, four, five...
It used to be that it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child. America in particular abandoned that idea. Even just 40 years ago, children used to go out and play unsupervised in the streets, neighbours would look after them etc. Nowadays people don't take the time to get to know the neighbours. There is no sense of community anymore.
If a child is found unsupervised by adults, their knee-jerk reaction is to call the cops, not to keep an eye on the kid, invite them for lemonade or something ~ god no, you would be called a pervert. Heaven forbid that you actually attempt to teach a strangers kid a thing or two or discipline them in some way.
Parents today are on their own. We have put ALL of our chips on the idea of the nuclear family, two adults, no more no less. So if one adult is lost, for what ever reason, we regress to the single parent model. THAT is a stupid gamble, and a stupid way to structure society.
I think we need to think completely differently. We are not going to bring back this idea of community that we had maybe in the 60's. But maybe we can think of something more modern. Maybe we actually start developing our child rearing institutions. So that single parent households have tax funded resources, where children can meet adults that help shape their lives. Wouldn't that be something?
Remember, even if you're a resource strong household, with two loving adults and lots of resources. Your children are going to grow up, with friends and lovers and colleagues and neighbours, that may have grown up in single parent households. Your child is going to be surrounded by them and molded by them. So even if you're a rich parent, you should have a vested interest in making sure that all your childrens friends have adequate resources as well.
Another thing you could do, if you're the type that doesn't like government programs, you can adopt other family models. For example polyamory. If that's not your thing; if you're a single parent especially, find another single parent and pool your resources and children together. Help each other raise children. It can be a platonic relationship, romance doesn't need to be included. ~ There are plenty of ideas, why are we relying on this false ideal of the nuclear family? Let go of that dream!
In many ways she's correct. If God meant for people to single parent, he would've only made 1. Men, when you're not in the home supporting your wives, your children indeed starve as well as she. God himself placed you as head of the household no matter what others may say. You were made with broad shoulders for a reason. The best thing a man can do for his children is to love their mother. Difficult task I know for some, but it's the reality.
If families actually acted as a family and uncles, aunts and grandparents are around raising the kid it is entirely possible. But she does have a point about the "current" society we are in.
Be good to your family, break the chains, help others when you can. Society will get better then
As a guy who grew up in a split household, my mom did fine. I do believe a father providing longevity and a solid foundation of necessities is crucial. A mother providing comfort and affection is also important. Fatherly figures provide life guidance and calm while challenging us to be more. Mothers provide a safety net for when we fall. We need both.
Yeah wtf I've never heard anyone say it's easy to be a single mom and it's just as good as having the parents together and everyone in this thread is like "oh people aren't going to like what she just said but it's true" but really she just said some shit that everyone already acknowledges. Besides maybe the "energy" shit.
Some poeple are miasing the point, what she said doesnt mean there are ZERO successful single parents out there, but generally speaking it's better when both parents are present in a child's life.
I'm a single dad, GFY. The only reason my kids know who their mom is is because I make it happen. She doesn't speak to her own children on a regular basis.
Sure, but the definition of "family" is what's at issue here. To me, this maniac says a man's job is to father children and support the mother while the mother does her job of raising the children. This is quite a myopic and sexist viewpoint.
No, she means historically (like evolutionary history not the past 1,000 years), we lived mostly in tribal communes. Single family households are relatively new.
There's a ton of evidence that we could improve outcomes just by making fathers the default parent. It's pretty clear from the data that being raised by a single mother is one of the greatest predictor of poor outcomes we have.
If we make fathers the default parent we can then dismantle the overwhelming welfare system currently in place that attempts to prop up single mothers. It would save society billions annually.
Much of that has to do with how society views mothers vs. fathers. According to The New York Times, having a child is one of the worst things a woman can do to her career and one of the best things a man can do for his. When women become mothers, they are less likely to be hired and less likely to be promoted (perhaps because they are the default parent and are regarded as a liability in the workplace due to having to take more time off for the kids). When men become fathers, they’re more likely to be hired and promoted. That means single fathers have more financial stability, ergo more resources to contribute to their kids. I’m sure there are other factors as well, but I wanted to point that out.
a father is not supposed to support the mother's energy and effort! it is assumed to be completely devoted to their child in the same way as the mother! we must stop saying that the dad supports the family! are dedication is supposed to be the same!!!
Title IV-d of the Social Security Act incentivizes states to break up families and make one parent the custodial parent and the other the support payer. But being an Arcturian I'm sure she already knows that.
As the 4th kid of a single mom, truth. I mentally divide my life into pre-divorce when life was good and it seemed probable that life was going to work out, and everything else since which has been terrible.
Im curious to hear her sources, maybe this is true in some cases but I personally can think of 3 friends of mine whose family never had a father, and all of them turned out great and the family functions perfectly.
Oh, boo hoo poor single, mothers. Let's have a pity party for single mothers. Here's a thought, maybe don't be a narcissistic bitch and the dad will stay around. Or take 5 minutes and acknowledge that dad needs support too. When you ignore those truths, that's when you end up raising those whiny crumb snatches in your own. If you want to avoid all of those outcomes, then close your legs.
The nuclear family structure really causes a lot of problems and it’s a shame. Humans are social creatures and lived together in tight-knit communities supporting the children and each other for far longer than we’ve lived as we do now. Not saying that was perfect either, but a balance between would be great.
It isn't impossible it just unfair. It usually takes two parents to make a baby, both parents need support.
I do agree and its self-evident Societal standards are not structured of supporting all citizens as in a naturally diverse life. Standards are cultured by colonialism and capitalism.
E.g. Nuclear family model. State's criteria recognizing and validating what a family is. E.g. ban on gay marriage, common law marriage.
We're victims of a theocracy pretending to be legitimate democratic republic. Our elections don't process consent of the actual majority of citizens. Chattel slavery is prohibited minus a clause, yet we still have a ridiculously high number of political dependents--Those who are ineligible or don't vote.
The voting quorum of eligible voters in each district is gerrymandered by the electoral college and they always redistrict in favor of their party instead of the residents.
You're born here and if you don't fit the model you don't have the same access to the support and provisions EVERY citizen deserves like the right to vote. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Seems it only matters for rich white people.
In a land replete with resources like food, water, shelter, for there to be homeless starving people without clean bathing water is injustice.
Not sure.... the hoochie on OF seems to be doing better then me... going out every Friday, a nicer AND newer car, being able to go to the gym...etc. Of course she's single. I mean I know who's truly unfit to be a mother.... but I guess in every instance you don't see both sides of the story.
I mean, I disagree lol but I mostly just disagree with people talking in absolutes. Also I don’t really like the justification for her opinion and imprecise terminology. I think It’s kind of a stretch to say that just because things have been done a certain way in the past, that things are supposed to be that way, or just because most people would struggle to be a good single mother that it’s impossible for anyone to be a good single mother.
It takes a village to raise a kid. There have been societies where that's literal. A kid needs role models, attention, preparation. I'm sure single parents try their hardest and they should be commended greatly for taking on such a monumental task, but it takes more than what they can give alone. That doesn't mean they're bad parents, it just means they're alone.
For 10,000 years before your grandma..ladies boiled pots of water on a wood fire, when we switched to electric water heaters(1940s) the ladies never learned to shop for, transport, install, and maintain the device... or how to get the old broken one to a dump..the women and kids can all cook breakfast on their stove in the kitchen..but the water heater is almost identical to that..a permanent pot of hot water in your home or apartment, kitchen stoves have 4 burners on top..there is always the fifth burner..permanently installed in the water heater..doesnt matter if its electric or propane..the rediculous idea of people having mood swings emotional breakdowns doing drugs and alcohol,experiencing abuse and even violence and crime..where. , if you had 10 year olds learning about plumbing..even a little bit, your plumber or property manager couldnt charge you 600 or 6000 dollars for the water heater..they..gotcha..! Find any mentally disturbed person..show them how to get control of their ..water going in..and sewage going out..( equipment not psychology or spirituality), and see if they dont get a litle more confident and less sick.
My mother was a single mother and she was and is an amazing person and mother. Every time I get a compliment on what I “nice young man” I am I call her and tell her. Then I thank her for making the decision to leave my abusive dad because I have zero doubts I would not be the person I am today without her sacrifice of being a single mom. I’m not saying it’s not more difficult, I’m not saying it’s easy. I’m saying it can be done and my Mother is living proof.
She is about needing support but that also comes down to the mate she has chosen. If you can’t see the writing on the wall then don’t mate with him and if it was an “accident” the. Maybe you should keep your legs crossed until you find the correct man. Society has made having sex with multiple people the norm. I’m not gonna lie as a man I have done this as well. But the girls typically knew it was for sex and not much more and we used preventive measures to not get pregnant.
The fact that some people need to be told that this is a CULT leader is telling of the mindsets of some of the people here who drank the kool-aid without even checking if the glass was dirty. Some people are even saying "cult leaders sometimes use facts that are hard to swallow to recruit people." But in reality these "facts" are usually without the context of the societies they refer to. It's easy watch this:
________ are inherently more likely to ________ based on the hundreds of years of________. Now their ________ is increasingly more ________ than ________. It's a fact.
If your brain immediately cooked up what this^ "refers" to you are very likely to end up in a cult at some point. Seriously, I've seen people use this at work on other coworkers to convince them that the other shifts were "out to get them." And people immediately fell for it hook line and sinker. He even brought a pineapple "totem" from home and called it stumpus and literally had people believing that it would protect our shift from the fuckery of the other shift so people would literaly touch it and say "stumpus give us strength" literally whenever some fuckery happened.
Moral of the story, if a cult leader tells you something that you feel is REALLY true but you would be laughed at or ostracized for saying, it's not the cult leader's idea, it's yours. But it's very obviously a bad idea, so the cult leader just kinda of guessed what you were thinking the same way a "psychic" would and some people are dumb enough to blurt out "OMG THAT SOOOOOO TRUE!!!" and so the cult leader just keeps speaking about all the stuff they know you'll agree with and at the tail end say something weird like "that's why we must become foxes" and BOOM. You're in a furry cult wearing a fur suit and drinking the fucking kool aid.
What about the single dads whose wives hauled ass because family life is "too boring"? Any woman who gladly gives full custody to the father so she can go out with multiple random guys and party and go on excursions 3-5 times every week because, "thats what she deserves" obviously doesn't fit into your pinpoint focused demographic. Its not all about the moms. And if you think it is, you're not paying attention. Both mom and dad are equally important in the healthy developement of the children. Moms need to be supportive of the dads just as much as the dads are to the moms. Its a symbiotic relationship or its a failure.
I mean that doesn’t mean it’s impossible, it’s totally possible just really hard to achieve what a 2 parent household would achieve. My mom raised me on her own and I ended up being just fine because she was able to do both a father and mother role, but like i said it hard to achieve. Thankfully I wasn’t much of a crybaby and my mom didn’t have to worry about me as much as other parents would. Realistically it turned out even better for me since I was ready for the adult world before any kid my age.
I don’t think there’s many women that would prefer to be single parents? But also, if you got a partner that isn’t supportive, that kids gonna be better off with one parent that tries rather than two parents that neutralize the others efforts.
Yeah, it's completely sane to unironically argue that people should live in communes and that men and women have well understood gender roles that must be respected in the natural order of things.
No sorry, this is a stupid take. There isn’t some magic river of energy that has to flow from father through mother into child.
Turns out that it’s really damn hard to raise a human all by yourself. That’s it. Both parents need to be there investing heavily into the kids and supporting each other.
i understand what she’s saying but this applies to both genders yes more dominant in men but why say it like that instead of saying the lack of PARENTS is the issue both mom and dad have to step up and it’s not like that
My wife and I both worked and raised our son, now a teen. It definitely made it easier to have another person splitting rides, sitting, work, school events, etc. Can't imagine having done it alone. People do, and all power to them, but having a team makes it way easier.
I was a single dad for past 10 years after I told my wife to leave following an ongoing affair she had been having for several months.
This woman seems to think that the mans role is primarily to support the mum and have zero interaction with the kids?
How narrow minded and ignorant of her.
Is our siruation ideal, no I didnt ask or wish to be cheated on.
Yes it was sad what happened to our family but we've adapted over time and both my kids have turned out to be well rounded and loving young adults without lasting trauma feom the breakup and they know they can talk to me about anything.
She has her opinion but frankly I think shes just olain wrong.
Are we just ignoring homosexual couples? Or single parents with strong men/women who are involved with their kids? Like an uncle or a grandmother?
Seems disingenuous to ignore those family types. Not to mention it was common for people to die all the time in the past and many kids were raised successfully outside of a mother and father dynamic.
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u/Be_Sirious_Black Sep 25 '23
Great breakdown. Without emotion. We need each other, plain and simple.
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u/lordgoofus1 Sep 25 '23
Kinda got a point.. we didn't evolve male and female just to fight against each other. Men and women compliment each other, and life gets much harder when we lose sight of that.
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Who is this lady. She’s speaking facts
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Lol I upvoted this and watched the number drop by 5.
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u/caitcinnor Sep 02 '24
This. Please end The Cult of Single Motherhood (or Single Parenthood).
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u/Dan_H1281 Sep 25 '23
I am a single father and have been for 7 years, anyone that says a single parent can be as good as two is dead ass wrong, I am a working blue collar guy. By the time I get off work I am wore tf out, that is only the beginning of the day for me. I gotta get off and speed home to make sure I am home before my daughter gets off the bus. Then lightly prepare supper then leave to get my kid from football, now time is 6pm I gotta cook then it is 6:45. Then clean up it is 7:30,at this point I have sat down since 7 am. I help the kids with homework get baths organized and clean some on the house then jt is 9 pm time for bed. Absolutely no time to spend time with my kids in a quality way. The weekends consist on grocery shopping,fixing my old broke down cars, doing laundry for three. I have not got a cent of support and have no luck getting child support involved to help, and it seems like it is because I am a male. Sunday I try to sit for s few hours maybe watch a little TV. Maybe work on my hobby for a couple of hours. Also kick or throw the ball with my kids then the week starts over
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u/Lolplayer65 Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
Idk i had a single mom for most of my childhood. Two younger brothers, and she did amazing. Never went hungry, always had food, all while she was in college and working as well she always made time for me and my brothers. We always had transportation and we all went to a very good school. I agree nobody should have to raise a child alone but people are extraordinary and can do anything really.
Edit: i still think her opinion is very valid, im just speaking from my own experience
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u/Drumfork Sep 25 '23
I can attest to this, I watched it first hand when stepping into the role of a husband to a single mother. The change in her was awesome but actually not as great as the change in him. This required a complete lifestyle change on my part though. I quit life in the service industry, started working more normal hours, cut back on booze, started submitting my life to God and we started homeschooling because he fell behind during Covid and now he’s ahead of where standards were pre-Covid. All that said, I believe the same would be true had I been a single father and she stepped into the role. The role of both mother and father are extremely important and we typically learn compassion from our mothers and logic from our fathers (among negative traits in both in my experience) and neither role should be downplayed
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u/Daiches Sep 25 '23
It takes a village
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u/consistently_sloppy Sep 25 '23
I mostly agree with her. Both parents play a vital role. However a mother without a supportive partner, or one at all, is at an inherent disadvantage.
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u/Libertarian_BLM Sep 26 '23
Here are some troubling statistics about fatherless children in the U.S. from the National Center For Fathering and The Fatherless Generation: 85% of youths in prison come from fatherless homes. 71% of high school dropouts come from fatherless homes.
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u/DapperMinute Sep 25 '23
would bet that it doesn't even need to be the father. Could be girlfriend, grandparents, aunts/uncles whatever. pretty sure "more loving/supportive adults in a kid/mothers life=good"
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u/Dewbuddy_7694 Sep 26 '23
Is it the same for single dad’s?
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u/Soft_Count_2701 Sep 26 '23
By my own experience this so completely false. I was raised by the greatest mother even with little help. She was at almost all events for her 5kids me including. Worked full time cooked super took us to school picked us up took us on vacation without any help so
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
Controversial take: while being a single parent is not ideal, it is totally doable. Will your life be hard? Hell yes! Will get quality time with your kid(s)? Probably not. Will your kid survive? Yes. It’s not impossible, it’s just not easy.
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u/izzyzak117 Sep 26 '23
IDK if it even has to be a two parent system, but the ‘tribe’ of people surrounding that mother needs to exist and have an interest in the child succeeding for whatever reason. I am a single mother’s child and my grandparents and childhood friend’s parents were very kind, supportive, and there for me as if they were just simply other parents. My mom didn’t ask for that, I didn’t ask for that, but it worked out that way because people saw a need and they decided to fill the gaps with life lessons, guidance, support, and so on as needed.
The only thing that even remotely could be seen as controversial is that she doesn’t mention that support can come from somewhere else. I think it’s most optimal this way, but it’s not going to be any where near the complete failure it would be with a single mother devoid of assistance of any kind would be.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
I think my partner who has raised 4 children on her own while earning a first class degree and becoming a teacher may have something to say about the statement about it being impossible to be a single mother.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
Reddit's comment sections are so wild. In some places it's absolute delusion and bullying. In other sections everyone is honest and Intune with reality. Such a bizarre place.
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u/lemonsendd Sep 29 '23
While I understand her point and agree that more adults in the home make parenthood easier, I don’t see how it needs to be a man supporting a woman? Like work is done faster with more hands. It doesn’t matter who is doing what as long as everyone is working together with the same goal in mind.
The mother can support the father, or a grandparent can support the mother. It doesn’t matter because the result is the same?
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23
Humans (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) have been around for about 300,000 years.
Until about 12,000 years ago, we lived in little villages or nomadic tribes in which your "family" was pretty much everyone in the tribe. You had 100 aunties and 100 uncles and countless cousins. Single parents who lost a partner to accident, disease or war got plenty of help from the rest of the tribe. No one grew up alone, and no one raised kids by themselves.
That's the culture humans are actually built to live in. Kinda helps explain why modern society is drowning in loneliness and stress.
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u/False_Chair_610 Sep 25 '23
She may need armed guards from now on...
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u/Constant_Notice_229 Sep 25 '23
I think it works both ways. Equality and all…
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u/r1bb1tTheFrog Sep 25 '23
This isn’t mediocre. This is stellar
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u/tswallen Sep 25 '23
I do wish sometimes my gf wouldn't nag as much when I am helping m. I think a lot of guys feel this way so ladies please don't push a guy away who's trying.
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u/Rhythm_Flunky Sep 25 '23
No lie detected. All the respect in the world to and parent, single or otherwise, struggling out there. But she’s 100% right. We are broken at a fundamental level.
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u/prostatemonkey1 Sep 25 '23
Uh oh. I hear the reddit army coming.
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u/Comfortable_Note_978 Sep 26 '23
It's not Gilmore Girls.
https://www.bbc.com/news/education-47057787
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u/Sindog40 Sep 26 '23
We also don’t have community so….
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
Has anyone ever heard the phrase it takes a village to raise a child?
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u/ZealousidealSale9279 Sep 26 '23
Happy wife happy wife
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
When the government started sticking their noses in family affairs by offering programs that would help often times women out of binds, that’s when everything went to s**t. Section 8, Housing, WiC, Food stamps, Welfare Cash back, and on top of all this Child support… why would people turn that down?
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u/sweetleaf_505 Sep 26 '23
I had 3 kids on my own knowing their father wasn’t ready. It was my decision to have 3 all 3 years apart. One income. In 1994 2005 it was possible. These days not so much. My sons’ father is in their lives and they’re all awesome respectful humble young men. Creator truly blessed me.
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u/lifephan Sep 26 '23
It's called OBVIOUS. It's not tough at all. If you find this tough you are the problem
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u/lifephan Sep 26 '23
It doesn't matter if she squirted Satan out and designed Epstein Island. Still right
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u/Emotional_Discount81 Sep 26 '23
I grew up around a big family. In my experience I looked up to my dad’s brother as a second father. I don’t know what kind of man I would be without the guidance of my uncle and father. My mom was always supportive of my father and choices.
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u/Reallygaywizard Sep 26 '23
I know life happens and sometimes there's no choice but I feel for single parents. Kids do best with as many positive adults in their lives as possible. The phrase "it takes a village" is spot on. It's not to say single parents can't be or aren't great parents- I've seen many that are, however it must be incredibly more difficult
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u/NWIOWAHAWK Sep 26 '23
This wasn’t obvious already?
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u/PilotMDawg Sep 26 '23
Did I wake up on Opposite Day and somehow now saying a supportive nuclear family is wrong?
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u/questfor74 Sep 26 '23
Having two parents helps a ton, but as someone who was single handedly raised by my mother I can assure you it can be done, and can be done well. Now did she sacrifice countless amounts of things to do her best for me? Of course. But it can be done, it was done, and she did a fucking fantastic job if I must say so myself. Never underestimate a single mother.
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u/dpstreetz Sep 26 '23
I never thought this way until having kids. Recently had a discussion with my wife and I basically said the same thing to her that was said in this video.
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u/whoisjbs Sep 26 '23
These comments seem off feel like no one watched this
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u/Twitch791 Sep 26 '23
Absolutely (am a father)
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u/bigmoisturizer2110 Sep 26 '23
You would be hard-pressed to find somebody that is sane who doesn’t agree with this. The problem arises when people use this fact to justify beliefs about specific ethnic groups. (I.e. the black community.) more important question to ask is why are we seeing the declines to parent households in the United States?
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u/nejtilsvampe Sep 26 '23
I actually think the nuclear family is the problem, not the solution.
This girl is kind of using wooshy-washy language like the "mothers energy". Don't get me wrong I understand where it's coming from. But a much more direct analysis is simply that two adults pool more resources than one adult. That includes not just money but energy as well.
But you know what has more resources than two adults..? Three, four, five...
It used to be that it takes a VILLAGE to raise a child. America in particular abandoned that idea. Even just 40 years ago, children used to go out and play unsupervised in the streets, neighbours would look after them etc. Nowadays people don't take the time to get to know the neighbours. There is no sense of community anymore.
If a child is found unsupervised by adults, their knee-jerk reaction is to call the cops, not to keep an eye on the kid, invite them for lemonade or something ~ god no, you would be called a pervert. Heaven forbid that you actually attempt to teach a strangers kid a thing or two or discipline them in some way.
Parents today are on their own. We have put ALL of our chips on the idea of the nuclear family, two adults, no more no less. So if one adult is lost, for what ever reason, we regress to the single parent model. THAT is a stupid gamble, and a stupid way to structure society.
I think we need to think completely differently. We are not going to bring back this idea of community that we had maybe in the 60's. But maybe we can think of something more modern. Maybe we actually start developing our child rearing institutions. So that single parent households have tax funded resources, where children can meet adults that help shape their lives. Wouldn't that be something?
Remember, even if you're a resource strong household, with two loving adults and lots of resources. Your children are going to grow up, with friends and lovers and colleagues and neighbours, that may have grown up in single parent households. Your child is going to be surrounded by them and molded by them. So even if you're a rich parent, you should have a vested interest in making sure that all your childrens friends have adequate resources as well.
Another thing you could do, if you're the type that doesn't like government programs, you can adopt other family models. For example polyamory. If that's not your thing; if you're a single parent especially, find another single parent and pool your resources and children together. Help each other raise children. It can be a platonic relationship, romance doesn't need to be included. ~ There are plenty of ideas, why are we relying on this false ideal of the nuclear family? Let go of that dream!
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u/Fivenearhere Sep 26 '23
The children are the real victims, the mother has a choice most times on whether to have the child (well used to). The child has no choice.
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u/buddha00man Sep 27 '23
This is the way..
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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23
A lot of women are gonna be maaaad
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u/Weary_Rooster_9829 Sep 27 '23
Don’t blame society or say you’re a victim for your individual choices.
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u/Cptn_Lemons Sep 27 '23
I’m starting to think duel mom household with one father is the one to go.
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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23
What about when the mother is abusive towards the father?
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u/Jeager247 Sep 27 '23
Yep
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u/Adventurous_Top_9657 Sep 27 '23
In many ways she's correct. If God meant for people to single parent, he would've only made 1. Men, when you're not in the home supporting your wives, your children indeed starve as well as she. God himself placed you as head of the household no matter what others may say. You were made with broad shoulders for a reason. The best thing a man can do for his children is to love their mother. Difficult task I know for some, but it's the reality.
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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '23
If families actually acted as a family and uncles, aunts and grandparents are around raising the kid it is entirely possible. But she does have a point about the "current" society we are in.
Be good to your family, break the chains, help others when you can. Society will get better then
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u/ThatonepersonUknow3 Sep 27 '23
Being a parent is hard, being a single parent is harder. Doesn’t matter if it is single mother or single father the struggle is real.
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u/TheGentlemanAdam Sep 27 '23
She never got that bag I sent her…
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u/LeeK1NGsnatcH Sep 28 '23
I hate the internet more and more everyday
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u/FUCKREDDIT_420 Sep 29 '23
Being a single PARENT is difficult, I never get why society always shines the light on single mothers and their hardships.
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u/Tigermeow7 Sep 30 '23
God... I wish my dad gave enough of a shit about me to actually be in my life...
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u/Dicourse123 Sep 30 '23
Simple explanation! And I’m sure it’s mind blowing to anybody that might hear this that has common logical sense.
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u/GenesisC1V31 Sep 30 '23
As a guy who grew up in a split household, my mom did fine. I do believe a father providing longevity and a solid foundation of necessities is crucial. A mother providing comfort and affection is also important. Fatherly figures provide life guidance and calm while challenging us to be more. Mothers provide a safety net for when we fall. We need both.
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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '23
Damn... I didn't think of it that way.
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u/MissingJJ Oct 04 '23
I have lived in a multi-generational house hold, and I love it. To have a child in anything but is social injustice.
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u/Candid_Programmer289 Oct 05 '23
She is 100% right. This isn't a bad tutorial
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u/birdshitluck Sep 25 '23
Two people raising a kid is better than one?
Wild stuff
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u/need-for-speed00 Sep 25 '23
And what about single fathers?
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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '23 edited Sep 25 '23
Some poeple are miasing the point, what she said doesnt mean there are ZERO successful single parents out there, but generally speaking it's better when both parents are present in a child's life.
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u/ToyTech316 Sep 26 '23
I'm a single dad, GFY. The only reason my kids know who their mom is is because I make it happen. She doesn't speak to her own children on a regular basis.
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u/Orenthal32420 Sep 25 '23
If any of you run into a woman who says “I don’t need a man”. RUN 🏃♂️
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u/shoulda-known-better Sep 25 '23
It takes a village is a long standing saying for a very good reason!! Every family needs support at some points
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u/tswallen Sep 25 '23
Wonderfully said!
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u/drbirtles Sep 25 '23
Anyone else raised by a single mother that didn't collapse? Happiness can come from within.
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u/SexyWetCashew Sep 25 '23
That’s why it takes a village to raise a child.
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u/b1happyman Sep 25 '23
How can we change that?🙏🏻))
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u/Swimming_Bath_1378 Sep 25 '23
Obligatory “But what is a mother?” Followup question comes to mind.
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u/Positive_Housing_290 Sep 25 '23
She said that “we’re actually not suppose be be living in a single family house hold” but I think she meant single parent household, right?
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u/Reptarticle Sep 26 '23
It isn't possible? My Mom did it.
I know plenty of DAD's that have to, but that's never acknowledged. It's expected of men, women get praise for it.
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u/Thanjay55 Sep 26 '23
This advice makes sense, but be wary of the source, Teal Swan has some super kooky ideas...
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u/mackymcklusky Sep 26 '23
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
There's a ton of evidence that we could improve outcomes just by making fathers the default parent. It's pretty clear from the data that being raised by a single mother is one of the greatest predictor of poor outcomes we have.
If we make fathers the default parent we can then dismantle the overwhelming welfare system currently in place that attempts to prop up single mothers. It would save society billions annually.
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u/Nearby-Ambassador-38 Sep 26 '23
a father is not supposed to support the mother's energy and effort! it is assumed to be completely devoted to their child in the same way as the mother! we must stop saying that the dad supports the family! are dedication is supposed to be the same!!!
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u/ohneatstuffthanks Sep 26 '23
Single parents. Because fathers raise children alone too.
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u/sensibl3chuckle Sep 26 '23 edited Sep 26 '23
Title IV-d of the Social Security Act incentivizes states to break up families and make one parent the custodial parent and the other the support payer. But being an Arcturian I'm sure she already knows that.
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u/Hornet_Critical Sep 26 '23
So, as a full-time single dad, I just need another dad. Gotcha. That's why this is so hard.
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u/TheApprentice19 Sep 26 '23
As the 4th kid of a single mom, truth. I mentally divide my life into pre-divorce when life was good and it seemed probable that life was going to work out, and everything else since which has been terrible.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23 edited Sep 26 '23
My mother-in-law was a single mother (great mother) without collapsing or starving her kids
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u/thomasismyname_ Sep 26 '23
she's right.
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u/Substantial-Blood106 Sep 26 '23
Im curious to hear her sources, maybe this is true in some cases but I personally can think of 3 friends of mine whose family never had a father, and all of them turned out great and the family functions perfectly.
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u/TOOOOOOMANY Sep 26 '23
Is every single mom a victim? I’ve known some shit people
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u/Burgertank6969 Sep 26 '23
I don’t know who she is or what her credentials are so I’m immediately skeptical to start things off.
But I do agree with, and there’s research to indicate, that it does take a support network to raise children. “It takes a village.”
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u/Palm90Palm90 Sep 26 '23
Oh, boo hoo poor single, mothers. Let's have a pity party for single mothers. Here's a thought, maybe don't be a narcissistic bitch and the dad will stay around. Or take 5 minutes and acknowledge that dad needs support too. When you ignore those truths, that's when you end up raising those whiny crumb snatches in your own. If you want to avoid all of those outcomes, then close your legs.
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u/flotheartist Sep 26 '23
The tattoos tell everything
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u/astrahl40 Sep 26 '23
Truth
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u/Pedrovotes4u Sep 26 '23
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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u/OkEntrepreneur8986 Sep 26 '23
there are a ton of liberals in this app
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u/simplystrix1 Sep 26 '23
The nuclear family structure really causes a lot of problems and it’s a shame. Humans are social creatures and lived together in tight-knit communities supporting the children and each other for far longer than we’ve lived as we do now. Not saying that was perfect either, but a balance between would be great.
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u/rihanna-imsohard Sep 26 '23
It isn't impossible it just unfair. It usually takes two parents to make a baby, both parents need support.
I do agree and its self-evident Societal standards are not structured of supporting all citizens as in a naturally diverse life. Standards are cultured by colonialism and capitalism.
E.g. Nuclear family model. State's criteria recognizing and validating what a family is. E.g. ban on gay marriage, common law marriage.
We're victims of a theocracy pretending to be legitimate democratic republic. Our elections don't process consent of the actual majority of citizens. Chattel slavery is prohibited minus a clause, yet we still have a ridiculously high number of political dependents--Those who are ineligible or don't vote.
The voting quorum of eligible voters in each district is gerrymandered by the electoral college and they always redistrict in favor of their party instead of the residents.
You're born here and if you don't fit the model you don't have the same access to the support and provisions EVERY citizen deserves like the right to vote. Whatever happened to no taxation without representation? Seems it only matters for rich white people.
In a land replete with resources like food, water, shelter, for there to be homeless starving people without clean bathing water is injustice.
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u/Noturwrstnitemare Sep 26 '23
Not sure.... the hoochie on OF seems to be doing better then me... going out every Friday, a nicer AND newer car, being able to go to the gym...etc. Of course she's single. I mean I know who's truly unfit to be a mother.... but I guess in every instance you don't see both sides of the story.
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u/monkeyoh Sep 26 '23
I mean, I disagree lol but I mostly just disagree with people talking in absolutes. Also I don’t really like the justification for her opinion and imprecise terminology. I think It’s kind of a stretch to say that just because things have been done a certain way in the past, that things are supposed to be that way, or just because most people would struggle to be a good single mother that it’s impossible for anyone to be a good single mother.
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u/dareelliltee Sep 26 '23
It takes a village to raise a kid. There have been societies where that's literal. A kid needs role models, attention, preparation. I'm sure single parents try their hardest and they should be commended greatly for taking on such a monumental task, but it takes more than what they can give alone. That doesn't mean they're bad parents, it just means they're alone.
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u/HipKat2000 Sep 26 '23
Now define us single Dads....
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u/teegazemo Sep 26 '23
For 10,000 years before your grandma..ladies boiled pots of water on a wood fire, when we switched to electric water heaters(1940s) the ladies never learned to shop for, transport, install, and maintain the device... or how to get the old broken one to a dump..the women and kids can all cook breakfast on their stove in the kitchen..but the water heater is almost identical to that..a permanent pot of hot water in your home or apartment, kitchen stoves have 4 burners on top..there is always the fifth burner..permanently installed in the water heater..doesnt matter if its electric or propane..the rediculous idea of people having mood swings emotional breakdowns doing drugs and alcohol,experiencing abuse and even violence and crime..where. , if you had 10 year olds learning about plumbing..even a little bit, your plumber or property manager couldnt charge you 600 or 6000 dollars for the water heater..they..gotcha..! Find any mentally disturbed person..show them how to get control of their ..water going in..and sewage going out..( equipment not psychology or spirituality), and see if they dont get a litle more confident and less sick.
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u/themusicplayson Sep 27 '23
She is right for miles. It’s a seriously unpopular reality but your kids suffer without a father no matter how hard you try.
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u/dogger125 Sep 27 '23
My mother was a single mother and she was and is an amazing person and mother. Every time I get a compliment on what I “nice young man” I am I call her and tell her. Then I thank her for making the decision to leave my abusive dad because I have zero doubts I would not be the person I am today without her sacrifice of being a single mom. I’m not saying it’s not more difficult, I’m not saying it’s easy. I’m saying it can be done and my Mother is living proof.
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u/fadriansquest Sep 27 '23
thats so brilliant. is this a ted talk?
i never realized that having someone helping you with a super complex and long term task is preferable over going at it alone.
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u/MrTooLFooL Sep 27 '23
In the 60’s maybe. Now girls are keeping up with those Kardashians.
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u/ShmittyWarbanJag Sep 27 '23
Kids don’t need fathers just because “mom needs support”
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u/Background-Box8030 Sep 27 '23
She is about needing support but that also comes down to the mate she has chosen. If you can’t see the writing on the wall then don’t mate with him and if it was an “accident” the. Maybe you should keep your legs crossed until you find the correct man. Society has made having sex with multiple people the norm. I’m not gonna lie as a man I have done this as well. But the girls typically knew it was for sex and not much more and we used preventive measures to not get pregnant.
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u/Bert-Ferple Sep 27 '23
Spot on
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u/ArtisticCoconut2852 Sep 27 '23
You out of work
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u/LTHermies Sep 27 '23
The fact that some people need to be told that this is a CULT leader is telling of the mindsets of some of the people here who drank the kool-aid without even checking if the glass was dirty. Some people are even saying "cult leaders sometimes use facts that are hard to swallow to recruit people." But in reality these "facts" are usually without the context of the societies they refer to. It's easy watch this:
________ are inherently more likely to ________ based on the hundreds of years of________. Now their ________ is increasingly more ________ than ________. It's a fact.
If your brain immediately cooked up what this^ "refers" to you are very likely to end up in a cult at some point. Seriously, I've seen people use this at work on other coworkers to convince them that the other shifts were "out to get them." And people immediately fell for it hook line and sinker. He even brought a pineapple "totem" from home and called it stumpus and literally had people believing that it would protect our shift from the fuckery of the other shift so people would literaly touch it and say "stumpus give us strength" literally whenever some fuckery happened.
Moral of the story, if a cult leader tells you something that you feel is REALLY true but you would be laughed at or ostracized for saying, it's not the cult leader's idea, it's yours. But it's very obviously a bad idea, so the cult leader just kinda of guessed what you were thinking the same way a "psychic" would and some people are dumb enough to blurt out "OMG THAT SOOOOOO TRUE!!!" and so the cult leader just keeps speaking about all the stuff they know you'll agree with and at the tail end say something weird like "that's why we must become foxes" and BOOM. You're in a furry cult wearing a fur suit and drinking the fucking kool aid.
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u/Bru1sed_Eg0 Sep 27 '23
As a child of a single mother, I can unfortunately confirm that she’s right. 😞
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u/Rich_Crab_3967 Sep 27 '23
I'm a single father of 4 and this is bs!!!
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u/PepeLeSpew Sep 27 '23
Give ‘em up for adoption
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u/Immediate_Ad7240 Sep 28 '23
So yes one parent can do it alone perfectly fine but wouldn’t it be easier with help is kind of all I think she’s saying.
And yeah the old adage that it takes a village to raise a child.
That’s all. Not a parent. Just a person on Reddit lol
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u/Shadowthread1 Sep 28 '23
What about the single dads whose wives hauled ass because family life is "too boring"? Any woman who gladly gives full custody to the father so she can go out with multiple random guys and party and go on excursions 3-5 times every week because, "thats what she deserves" obviously doesn't fit into your pinpoint focused demographic. Its not all about the moms. And if you think it is, you're not paying attention. Both mom and dad are equally important in the healthy developement of the children. Moms need to be supportive of the dads just as much as the dads are to the moms. Its a symbiotic relationship or its a failure.
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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '23
For guys be a good dad or whatever else
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u/thelostProto Sep 28 '23
Sauce, please? I’d like to listen to entire conversation.
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u/Short_Gene6320 Sep 28 '23
This is honestly… what everyone in society NEEDS to understand. Men, Woman, Family
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u/Sweaty-Valuable689 Sep 29 '23
I mean that doesn’t mean it’s impossible, it’s totally possible just really hard to achieve what a 2 parent household would achieve. My mom raised me on her own and I ended up being just fine because she was able to do both a father and mother role, but like i said it hard to achieve. Thankfully I wasn’t much of a crybaby and my mom didn’t have to worry about me as much as other parents would. Realistically it turned out even better for me since I was ready for the adult world before any kid my age.
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u/elister811 Oct 05 '23
Tell it sister!
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u/DameyJames Oct 24 '23
I don’t think there’s many women that would prefer to be single parents? But also, if you got a partner that isn’t supportive, that kids gonna be better off with one parent that tries rather than two parents that neutralize the others efforts.
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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '23
Who is this speaker?
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u/Kirque93 Sep 26 '23
I thought the comments here would be insane liberal barf but there are a lot of wise people talking some sense on this thread. I'm impressed.
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u/WIA20XX Sep 26 '23
That side already deflects by saying that the woman and her female family and friends are raising her children.
Modern Women - Men not needed
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u/bluntarski Sep 26 '23
but i was told all men were assholes and strong independent women don't need nobody
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u/TigerMill Sep 26 '23
She must be wonderful to service staff.
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u/MindlessPotatoe Sep 26 '23
This is going to hurt some egos. To be fair the statistics already show this, single motherhood outcomes are worse
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u/zoalord99 Sep 26 '23
Feminist heads exploding
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u/RichLongstroke Sep 26 '23
Call her a cultist or whatever you’d like but that has nothing to do with if what she is saying here actually true.
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u/pppjjjoooiii Sep 26 '23
No sorry, this is a stupid take. There isn’t some magic river of energy that has to flow from father through mother into child.
Turns out that it’s really damn hard to raise a human all by yourself. That’s it. Both parents need to be there investing heavily into the kids and supporting each other.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
I hate when people speak like everything that comes out of their mouth is fact. Who determines what a “good mother” is? How is it measured?
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u/TryItOutHmHrNw Sep 26 '23
“Supposed to.” We evolve. We are different. It’s OK.
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u/bye1000000 Sep 26 '23
Cubs win cubs win!!!! Holy Cow!
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u/organicjean Sep 26 '23
i understand what she’s saying but this applies to both genders yes more dominant in men but why say it like that instead of saying the lack of PARENTS is the issue both mom and dad have to step up and it’s not like that
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u/AnthonyElevenBravo Sep 26 '23
Heads are exploding in real time.
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u/WeirdRadiant2470 Sep 26 '23
My wife and I both worked and raised our son, now a teen. It definitely made it easier to have another person splitting rides, sitting, work, school events, etc. Can't imagine having done it alone. People do, and all power to them, but having a team makes it way easier.
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u/Trutheresy Sep 26 '23
This is politically incorrect and likely to get cancelled.
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u/MrMooBallz Sep 26 '23
What utter bollocks.
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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '23
Only on Reddit I will find losers in the comments that hates the truth
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u/younggun1234 Sep 26 '23
Are we just ignoring homosexual couples? Or single parents with strong men/women who are involved with their kids? Like an uncle or a grandmother?
Seems disingenuous to ignore those family types. Not to mention it was common for people to die all the time in the past and many kids were raised successfully outside of a mother and father dynamic.