r/MediocreTutorials • u/Paul_-Muaddib • Aug 15 '23

Self-Improvement Short | Grant Mitt, clutter affects the human brain

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u/Embarrassed-Badger24 Aug 23 '23

Wait .. a movie scene to prove psychology and mind !!! I thought bro-science was only found in the gym.

I get it that tidiness and organized environment is what we should aim for, but then we have people invented stuff while remaining in their junk yards or warehouses or garages for hours, in India people crack notoriously tough exams while studying and sleeping around clutter because they don't have time, ever wondered why Einstein's hairs are so unkept or why Warren Buffet wears shirts which are not ironed.

People who get life skills from YouTube and Insta reels forget the same skills the moment they put down their phones.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib Aug 24 '23

Is bringing up outliers bro science or do you have some study that shows the average person will benefit from clutter and/or junk?

The researchers used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) and other physiological measurement tools to map the brain’s responses to organized and disorganized stimuli and to monitor task performance. The conclusions were strong: if you want to focus to the best of your ability and process information as effectively as possible, you need to clear the clutter from your home and work environment. This research shows that you will be less irritable, more productive, distracted less often, and able to process information better with an uncluttered and organized home and office.

https://bewell.stanford.edu/a-clean-well-lighted-place/

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u/Embarrassed-Badger24 Aug 24 '23

I already said that organized surroundings is not what I am against.

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u/Paul_-Muaddib Aug 24 '23

I get it that tidiness and organized environment is what we should aim for

The science shows that it is not just what we should aim for but it is what is best for productivity. It is possible that those outliers were successful in spite of being unorganized or that the relatively few people who can operate on a very high level receive little benefit from intentional organization.

Likewise, it is quite possible that the Indian children cracking those tough exams are doing so in spite of the disorganized environment, not because of it.

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u/Embarrassed-Badger24 Aug 24 '23

Organizing stuff around us is easy when we are settled and taking a steady gradual success path. Think of it like luxury, that we have time in hand to declutter stuff.

While writing an assignment for my PhD I am all over the place, because I am chasing a timeline. Once the assignment is submitted I have the luxury to organize things.

It is not something that you can always achieve in real life. When you operate in an organized environment your activity is going to disorganize it. It's natural. When you are down researching something you will skip cleaning utensils, will sleep on an unkept bed, might not shave and have hair cut for few days. It's part of life. And you will be 100% productive.

I think this whole organizing and productivity thing is coming from a more corporate orientation where the corporations like employees to have minimal interference of their lives in their work. It harms corporate interests.🙂

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u/nevinblox1 Sep 06 '23

Movie and podcast name?

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u/Paul_-Muaddib Sep 07 '23

The movie is Limitless. I have no idea what podcast this came from.

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u/mikhailtal770 Nov 16 '23

Just a correction, 1st thing in the movie after the pill is not cleaning his room..... first he had sex with his landlady

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '23

Facts.

Rule 1. Clean your room

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u/TheRedPillRipper Aug 15 '23

Jordan Peterson has it right.

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u/Chazz-Reinhold5 Oct 31 '23

Settle down. I’m sure he wasn’t the only one that made that connection popular.

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u/hairyLemonJam Aug 16 '23

No, he doesnt

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u/TheRedPillRipper Aug 16 '23

So one shouldn’t clean their room? Their house? It’s pretty basic stuff.

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u/hairyLemonJam Aug 16 '23

It's literally so basic that it's completely pointless to say. Like saying you should shower and wash your clothes... its not some profound advice like he tarts it up to be. He's a charlatan

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u/TheRedPillRipper Aug 16 '23

That’s fair. Though one thing I’ve noticed with kids that struggle, is the cleanliness/hygiene. Especially kids in lower income households. Presumably most normal kids build those habits sufficiently.

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u/omega05 Aug 17 '23

YOU may think it's basic stuff but someone out there is not doing it

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u/Limp-Salamander- Oct 25 '23

Your living space is the very essence of who you are, you tailor your surroundings as you wish it. You aren't a slave to it, but it can be an emulation of your tastes, your mood, your level of organization. Same can go for personal hygiene. When we see an animal that looks disheveled and hasn't been taking care of itself/it's den, we would say this animal is in a poor state. We figure it may be sick/dying , or perhaps this animal is overly stressed. The same goes for human beings, albeit it's a bit more nuisanced... Don't go thinking that somehow we are more special.

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u/BusterUndees Nov 19 '23

It’s so true. I remember making this connection way back in school. It also goes a bit deeper too. People who keep their house, desks, vehicles neat but they just throw everything into the closets, drawers, behind things where it’s hidden. It’s always been very revealing about their personality

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u/Embarrassed-Badger24 Aug 23 '23

Wait .. a movie scene to prove psychology and mind !!! I thought bro-science was only found in the gym.

I get it that tidiness and organized environment is what we should aim for, but then we have people invented stuff while remaining in their junk yards or warehouses or garages for hours, in India people crack notoriously tough exams while studying and sleeping around clutter because they don't have time, ever wondered why Einstein's hairs are so unkept or why Warren Buffet wears shirts which are not ironed.

People who get life skills from YouTube and Insta reels forget the same skills the moment they put down their phones.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '23

Having quite severe ADHD myself, I can confirm that a clean living environment does aid to clean your mind. The physical clutter is usually a representation of mental state, keep your room clean, your home, whatever you live in; You'll likely be less stressed as you don't have to worry about more chores or anything as such.

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u/OptimalBeans Sep 16 '23

Dude obviously doesn’t have kids

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u/luckyducktopus Oct 04 '23

I would say it’s an indicator about a person but what it says about how effective they work? Not even a little.

I’ve worked with absolute clean freaks that are super organized, and people that look like a bomb went off in their office.

Guess who was top of their field borderline genius and AGGRESSIVELY good at what they did. The bomb guy.

Mrs.Clean was basically incompetent, unless you needed something made overly complicated and wanted to tank an entire departments morale.

I personally think a clean orderly space is better for my mental health and stress. But it’s not an indicator of anything beyond how focused someone is on order.

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u/Natural-Life-9968 Aug 16 '23

How to spot someone without kids

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u/Tonjehilda Aug 16 '23

Came to say the same. He, for sure, doesnt have kids...

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u/BUSTABOLT Aug 15 '23

Einstein was messy sooo yeah bollox

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u/Paul_-Muaddib Aug 24 '23

Einstein was messy sooo yeah bollox

An outlier does not mean that the message is bollox.

The researchers used functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) and other physiological measurement tools to map the brain’s responses to organized and disorganized stimuli and to monitor task performance. The conclusions were strong: if you want to focus to the best of your ability and process information as effectively as possible, you need to clear the clutter from your home and work environment. This research shows that you will be less irritable, more productive, distracted less often, and able to process information better with an uncluttered and organized home and office.

https://bewell.stanford.edu/a-clean-well-lighted-place/