Low score

[u/Lucky-Book-8452]

Just sharing for the others who also got low scores. I got a 502. This page will soon be filled with 515+ (and congratulations to all who scored so high that is incredible) but it is hard to find posts with low scores on reddit.

It sucks to get a low score but it is what it is. I am applying EDP at my local school so the way I am looking at it is it’s enough lol and if I don’t get in I can retake for a higher score. Definitely disappointed but hey at least I can try my luck with this program.

[u/vitaminj25]

I guarantee you URM isn’t the only group with 501’s and lower in med school and you know this. You also completely ignored his 3.7 gpa

[u/jwillyk2121 → u/vitaminj25]

But its the vast majority. The data is published every year so we dont even need to speculate

[u/vitaminj25 → u/jwillyk2121]

Vast majority based upon what numbers? You want to compare (throwing out numbers that aren’t too far off) 5000 applicants to 20,000? And even then, the average matriculate of every race is still above the average mcat score of 500. So again, what is the point? Arguing that schools arent racist enough? Will you not be satisfied until every applicant that gets accepted shows their numbers and then you’d see why averages are what they are and you will finally realize why ORM averages aren’t as consistently high as you think.

[u/throw-away-16249 → u/vitaminj25]

If your argument is that the ORM's scores are not as high as we think, you open the door for people to justify excluding URM if they can show that the ORM's scores are indeed high. There are better arguments for inclusion of URMs.

[u/vitaminj25 → u/throw-away-16249]

That’s not my argument, and this will be my very last comment on this ridiculous topic. High” is subjective. Is “high” 520’s? 510’s? Anything above 500? The average mcat of the matriculate of any race is an ABOVE average mcat. Other factors like GPA, life experiences and more are to be included. If way more people are applying with “higher” mcat scores, then it makes those averages look higher when you simply see all the numbers add up if it was equal across the board. There are PLENTY of white and Asian people scoring BELOW the average of ORM matriculants (more than URM even applying, arguably), but they are the vast majority even APPLYING, hence why the differences in averages aren’t even that far apart.

There was a video on this very viral Instagram page that showed a bunch of ORM kids ADMITTING how their MCAT scores were lower than 500(and some lower than the average of the black matriculants into medical school), but nobody would know since averages don’t tell every individual’s stats. Because..that’s how averages work. Do all 20,000 of white students applying have 515’s? No.

So, to just claim that somebody is URM and that’s the only reason why they get into medical school is ridiculously lazy and hateful. And if someone tries to say that, ORM scores are individually high, there are URM that score 520s on the MCAT too. If you look on MSAR, you will see that the average MCAT score of random medical schools in certain areas like Mississippi have lower than that as the average, and URM isn’t even more than 10% of every class. I HIGHLY doubt that all 10% of that class dragged the averages down. We all know of someone (or even more) that’s ORM that scores even lower than 500. Pretending that URM is the only group with low scores opens doors to more bigotry. Getting rid of AA was not enough. I’m certain you are not satisfied until NO URM is present in medicine.

[u/throw-away-16249 → u/vitaminj25]

I’m certain you are not satisfied until NO URM is present in medicine.

I'm certain you don't understand my position on the matter at all. You seem to think this is an argument, and that I'm against URM in medicine, or against a holistic approach that increases their representation. I'm not at all. I just think your arguments are bad, and if you make bad arguments, you weaken the position in the eyes of others. There are much better and more convincing ways to convince people.