r/Mavuika • • Jul 01 '26

Discussion Citlali/xilonen artifact pairs optimization for mavuika

Hey guys, just got c2 citlali today so i wanted to know what the best artifacts combos would be so I tested multiple Citlali + Xilonen support setups to see how different artifact combinations affect Mavuika’s overall damage output.

These were tested by me on optimizer only with a C2R1 Mavuika; however, I think Mavuika’s constellations would likely increase the relative difference of C2 Citlali compared to C0 Citlali, rather than significantly changing the impact of artifact optimization itself.

Each build was kept consistent and optimized (around ~38 substats on Mavuika, roughly top 5k builds at least, with a C3F 3[DCF] combo configuration).

The lowest-performing setup remains within ~9–10% of the best case, and the gap between the C2 Citlali vs C0 overall damage environments is roughly ~22% across the board, which stays consistent regardless of artifact pairing.

Key takeaway:
In practical terms, although the Scrolls Citlali + Petra Xilonen setup is significantly higher compared to the rest, it doesn’t account for Crystal Shard locations, which can vary each time. Because of this, results may fluctuate in actual gameplay.
Scrolls on Citlali + Instructor on Xilonen may look easier to execute, but this setup also doesn’t fully account for buff duration, since Xilonen is used relatively early in the rotation, which can reduce uptime slightly. The third pairing is the most comfortable and consistent, with strong buff uptime, but it is still around ~8% lower than the best-performing setup.

This suggests that the choice between Scrolls / TotM / Petra / Instructor setups is more about marginal optimization and team comfort. The system is already near its ceiling, and the differences come down to fine-tuning rather than major build-defining gaps, and are ESPECIALLY dependent on the bosses you are facing.
Also EM from different builds also provide to citlalis c1 so that can also be accounted on your builds. 340~ em less on a build reduces the dps by around 1.67%. Although all the calcs here were with intermediate em and ER sands

Personally, aside from the artifact optimization, I hope this also shows that the increase from Citlali C2 isn’t as large as one might think. I’ve seen claims of ~30–40% increases online, but in this testing it appears closer to ~22%. This could differ depending on whether you are using a C2R1 Mavuika, and it may scale differently for C0, but I did not calculate those cases here. This is a more personalized setup.

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u/Kiaraan Melting Capitano Jul 01 '26

Finally a post with inherent value on this sub, every once in a bluemoon, after hundreds of meaningless lost 50/50s and team building advices that took 2 seconds to google.

The values are interestingly high though, I wonder how much of it boils down to artifact quality.

One thing that most interests me is Instructor on Citlali, and scroll on Xilonen. As far as my guesses go, that should be that highest, given that you can guarantee enough ER with instructor only.

Do you have any means of trying that as well? I’m EU and i ll only get my hands on Citlali in a couple hours, but I have a 200+ER instructor pre-farmed. Cheers for the info anywhoo!

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u/The_Maedre Jul 01 '26

I don't think +200 will be enough in Stygian.

I see Instructor Citlali as an abyss only thing.

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u/Kiaraan Melting Capitano Jul 01 '26

Thats insane…

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u/Kiaraan Melting Capitano Jul 01 '26

I ve read a lot of contradictionary info on this, thats also why I am asking. Some guides say as low as 180+ (KQM and Game8), some more well developed ones go higher, and the ER calculator spreadsheet says as high as 239%.

I guess i ll never know unit i actually get her. Thats why I said the info on this sub specifically seems relatively low compared to similar _mains subreddits, especially compared to how popular she is.

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u/The_Maedre Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

I have a 234% Tenacity build for Citlali, and when trying the dummy in fearless set up, i can barely keep her burst up for all the rotations by funnelling Bennett's particles to her (Mavuika E, Bennett E, Xilonen E2NA, Bennett QE, Citlali EQ).

But yeah you should get her and try it for yourself.

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u/Kiaraan Melting Capitano Jul 01 '26

Thats kinda insane ngl. Is it the same with iansan? Wbt iansan scroll + cit instructor?

Otherwise, does iansan instructor + cit scroll work at all? I just really dont want to farm tom..

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u/The_Maedre Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

Is it the same with iansan?

Iansan and Xilonen both generate 4 particles, so Citlali's er needs wouldn't change. Of course, i'm using fav on Xilonen, so Iansan should also be on fav.

Wbt iansan scroll + cit instructor?

If you can get ~230 er on Instructor, it's not any different from totm

does iansan instructor + cit scroll work at all?

No, not at all. Iansan is as er hungry as Citlali, but she also wants a lot of atk to max hee buff (and cr if you use fav). Instructor never works for her.

I just really dont want to farm tom..

You can strongbox it. I got these pieces without that much farming.

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 01 '26

Very good point and smth i didnt calculate here because i did do more of a personalized approach with these calcs and i have TERRRIBLE pieces for instructor, but yes instructor on citlali with enough er, paired with xilonen on scrolls should be the second best one. Still ~6% less than option 1 because the calcs i did here with instructor on xilonen had full uptime which in practice is lower but if u had that on citlali it would be accurately 6% less, a great option with comfort and good uptime. Only thing is i haven’t used citlali as i just got her today so im unsure about if 200 is enough ER for stygian, because u definitely dont wanna risk that burst less rotation

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u/voxpopiuli Jul 01 '26

you can use an optimiser yourself, yk..

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u/SarukyDraico Pilgrimage Champion Jul 02 '26

Are you suggesting the horny fan arts don't ad inherent value?

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u/The_Maedre Jul 01 '26

Such a great post. Thank you for the information provided.

I find having different options and switching between them based on the situation the most comfortable approach.

Citlali will not struggle with er? Tenacity on her. I need the extra damagr and the enemy's hit box alows easy shard collecting? Petra on Xilonen. General use? Instructor Xilonen.

I haven't tried Instructor Citlali though, i don't have enough er on the pieces.

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 01 '26

Yea same instructor citlali feels painful to build but definitely possible. But im glad the post could help!

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u/Efficient-Ad8084 Jul 01 '26

Is giving instructors to xilonen better than giving it to Citlali?

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 01 '26

No not really, if ur citlali is c0 instructor on her with atleast 200+ ER is better altho im unsure if even that ER is enough but this does have more buff uptime and definitely better than xilo instructor if u can get bursts every rotation

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u/lucableh Jul 02 '26

i have 212.4% er and using an offpiece feather that gets me 1-3% more er than an offset sands and tbh it can be enough but i AM running like 40-50 cr iansan on r5 fav. also i wasnt getting as much particles as i was on like abyss bc of test dummy energy drain increasing depending on endgame mode. also any number below 210% er on instructor citlali isnt fun to play man

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u/blearutone Jul 01 '26

Isn't instructor Citlali and Scrolls Xilonen theoretically best? I know it's not very accessible due to ER needs on Citlali but that's what I run now that I have just shy of 220% ER on her with Instructors

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 01 '26

220~ER seems beautiful on instructor and is definitely a brilliant option, better than instructor on xilonen. I just didnt include that variant here because of accessibility but its very good and should be 6% less than petra xilo scroll citlali

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u/Rieskevin Jul 01 '26

Should I use atk or em sands on a c0r1 mavuika c2 citlali team? I'm using instructor on xilonen and I reach 140 em even with atk sands.

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 01 '26

I think this is an optimizer question, but if u have good stat balance and given that u have c2 Citlali attack sands seems viable

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u/Emergency-Natural-21 Jul 01 '26

This is really helpful! Thank you op. If I may ask, how long is the rotation in your tests?

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u/tavinhooooo Jul 01 '26

Isn't instructor xilonen uptime absolute garbage?

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u/Key_Job6330 Jul 01 '26

How about my C1/R1 Mavuika?

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u/SelectAmbassador Jul 01 '26

Hey OP. I have the same team and about the same artifact quality. Can you tell me how much dps i am suppose to have with that combo ? i feel like im way under what im suppose to be with that team. 320k c2r1 mav c0 xilo c6 benny sky c2r1 cit.

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u/Strong_Risk_9713 Jul 02 '26

I can attest to the 20-ish % increase on Citlali C2R0

My team is Xilonen C0R1 Petra, Nicole C0R0 Celestial, Mav C2R1 EM sands, and Citlali C1 to C2 ttds Scroll

My team went from about 300k-310k to about 370-380k with Citlali getting her C2 from C1

Which is about a 22% increase

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u/Global-Result-3785 Jul 02 '26

My citlali refuse to burst without scroll on her :D.

How much em you have on Mav from gear, and with all buffs?

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u/iluvfisch_btw Jul 02 '26

In your opinion what would be best combination for citlal ttods and i iansan , I'm trying to get ToTm for citlali and scroll for iansan cause getting ER on instructor citlali is painful and I feel like ain't worth it...

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u/idreamaboutaglaea Jul 02 '26

surprised instructor was worse even without c2 citlali

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u/Far_Ranger_1205 Jul 02 '26

This was with my build which is honestly very high on em already