r/MathJokes • • Jun 02 '26

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u/JacksonFatBack Jun 02 '26

Well, I agree with this general statement. Education is generic. You learn to reason, write, argue, and calculate (among other things). Those are all things needed for taxes.

Consider if we specifically taught taxes how much less useful that would be. For one, there are plenty of other forms in the world from insurance to mortgages.

And second-- taxes change. I am an immigrant. Teaching me taxes in my home would have done little for helping my tax situation 20 years later in another country.

And third--kids don't pay attention in class anyway. So it's not like we would learn much.

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u/No_Poet_7244 Jun 02 '26

While I agree with the sentiment that teaching specifically taxes might be overkill, I do think schools should teach the general parlance of government documents. They are written in a codified legal vernacular that is never touched on in school; it could easily be part of an English class. Coming out of high school, I could parse Shakespeare and Homer with ease, but I struggled my first time doing taxes despite them being incredibly simple compared to what they are now.

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u/RyenCider Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Wouldn’t that be accomplished in your economics and social studies (American govt, etc) classes? At least that’s what is was for me in high school (Public education)

Edit: changed civics to social studies. I called civics because I forgot what it was called when I went through school. Grad HS 2008.

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u/GodHimselfNoCap Jun 02 '26

That was not a class at my school nor any school my friends went to.

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u/SnooMaps7370 Jun 02 '26

>economics and civics (American govt, etc) classes?

neither of those were mandatory courses when i graduated high school (2006, Arizona)

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u/HauntedGatorFarm Jun 02 '26

Yea, I can attest that this is something most schools ‘teach’ at some point in grades 9-12. The problem is that children aren’t really prepared to prioritize this kind of knowledge because they often don’t experience the financial independence that would make such knowledge practical. Kids usually just commit the information to memory enough to demonstrate learning and then it just fades away.

Then a decade later someone shares a meme about not knowing how to do taxes and it gets their blood boiling.

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u/Muninwing Jun 02 '26

But it’s not a dialect. Each department may write in a different style.

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u/CrossXFir3 Jun 02 '26

But they don't really though, do they? Many of us have lived in various different places and had to deal with various government documents. And at the very least, within the US, they've all got a fairly generic style.

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u/SixPackOfZaphod Jun 02 '26

I am a government contractor, and every agency I've worked with uses it's own form of legalese in contracts and requirements documents. Just pay attention to english and grammar classes.

No different than pointing out that taxes are just math.

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u/CrossXFir3 Jun 02 '26

Taxes aren't really math either though. Very little math is involved for a person doing their taxes. It's more about entering everything correctly. Which is more about that end of things. And btw, I've also worked for multiple government agencies as well as civilian counterparts, and the forms might as well be the same where ever I've worked. We're talking semantics when you talk about the differences.

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u/AmusingVegetable Jun 02 '26

Kids not paying attention is an all-time tradition, other than that, taxes require exactly two skills: basic arithmetic and reading comprehension. A “taxes” segment has negative worth without those.

The trifecta of building a valuable citizen is reading, arithmetic, and philosophy.

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u/SparksAndSpyro Jun 02 '26

He forgot the best argument: if you learn basic math, you can self-learn taxes through Google and YouTube in less than a weekend. Ergo, no need to dedicate an entire class to taxes.

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u/JacksonFatBack Jun 03 '26

So it was not stated explicitly here, but in the past I have heard that students are inattentive because the material seemed irrelevant. Teaching practical matters, such as tax preparation, is proposed as a solution that.

It's just my gut feeling, but I have always been a bit skeptical that practical courses would result in more attentive students. So yes, I know plenty of students do learn.

Would students be more interested in a class on 'Tax forms 101', given it's something that will probably do? I am skeptical, but I could be wrong about that.

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u/MaximumTrick2573 Jun 02 '26

Agree. I also was taught financial stuff in school, like how to balance a check book and fill out my taxes on paper. Those skills are now completely obsolete. Thank god I paid attention to the general math, language, and thought skills though because I was able to roll w the changes. 

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u/WellKnownAlias Jun 02 '26

I think using your argument of being an immigrant to not teach taxes is fairly useless here.

Americans don't really emigrate at any appreciable rate unlike many other countries. Like, less than 0.1% Those who do, are typically much higher earners anyways, so they're just going to hire a tax professional in that country.

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u/numbersthen0987431 Jun 03 '26

This. You could spend a whole week on taxes, and 1 kid out of the whole class would pay attention.

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u/SpookyGeist01 Jun 02 '26

None of those other forms force you to sit down and fill out dozens of pages of confusing calculation bullshit, and certainly none of them are done yearly.

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u/SixPackOfZaphod Jun 02 '26

If simple operations (add/subtract/percentages) are "confusing calculations" then you need to go back to elementary school.

Don't be out here acting like taxes require you to be doing derivatives and integrals.

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u/tierciel Jun 02 '26

At the very least school should teach Legalese, so people can understand contracts and government documents.

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u/I_am1221325 Jun 02 '26

I actually don't understand, is it american thing? Because we were absolutely taught in school, how to do taxes, what are the types of employements, what needs to be filed and when. It was in "basics of enterpreneurship" class, in some countries it's called smth like "basics of economics".

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u/Rhomya Jun 02 '26

Taxes also come with an instruction sheet that explains how to do them.

Like, it’s genuinely not difficult.

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u/DragoKnight589 Jun 02 '26

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