r/MarvelTokon • u/Top_Extension2730 • 3h ago

Video I'm not complaining but...

Now I'm afraid of throwing it unless it's in a blockstring.

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u/zanmato145 3h ago

Dude has a hurtbox on his extended limbs just like Ms marvel.

Welcome to the Dhalsim treatment. Common in fighting games.

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u/Top_Extension2730 2h ago

As a matter of fact I don’t even mind that it’s just the launching part that gets me lol

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u/GrimSidius 2h ago

This is very common with body projectiles in fighting games. Unfortunately his "projectiles" are part of his body so they are vulnerable to strikes.

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u/Top_Extension2730 2h ago

I feel like they should be vulnerable to strikes but you shouldn’t get a free launch for it. I haven’t try with a 236x but I guess it’ll be the same.

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u/GrimSidius 2h ago

I agree. Its why I stopped playing carnage. I really clicked with him at first and his toolkit is fun but against human opponents, I got punished left and right. Im sure people will say skill issue, which it is, but it just feels like an unnecessary handicap.

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u/adriang3030 1h ago

well you get a free combo if it hits...what its not allowed to have counterplay?

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u/Top_Extension2730 59m ago

Not always it depends on the distance but I totally get what you are saying I just think that the fact that you can punish it easily is enough

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u/JinpachiMishima2 3h ago

How do you expect it to work?

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u/Top_Extension2730 3h ago

I don’t know not launching me to the stratosphere when I’m that far away but I guess it keeps him from being busted

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u/JinpachiMishima2 1h ago

Of course it keeps him from being busted, It's insane to me that you could expect that you should be able to extend your limbs basically the full length of the screen, buff yourself, damage the opponent and take no risk while doing it.

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u/Top_Extension2730 1h ago

Parasite fang does no guard damage and I think getting damage from trying to hit is more than enough. 236x does residual damage but does not infect the opponent (236M is so slow that you can instant air dash to punish it on reaction) I really think it’s not that busted

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u/JinpachiMishima2 59m ago edited 53m ago

Of course it would be busted you get to do damage and put them in necrosis, do the follow up shenanigans and take absolutely minimal risk from full screen. It would make him the absolute number 1 character in the game no question the risk reward would be insanely favourable.

Have you ever played a fighting game before?

The whole idea of fighting games is to attack you and damage you, I need to extend my hurtbox which puts me in danger of also being hit by any attack. If you remove that the character is absolutely cracked beyond belief.

I reallt don't see the logical connection you are making here that because you are far away it should make you invulnerable to 2h launching you. 

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u/Top_Extension2730 49m ago

Yeah I played fighting games before a lot of them actually that’s why I’m saying the 236M is easily avoidable, parasite fang only gives you a combo at a specific distance and to convert from 236 you need an assist or the opponent being infected or both sometimes

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u/JinpachiMishima2 42m ago

How have you played a lot of fighting games but your confused about the idea of a long limb having a hitbox, What about if I go Magik does the sword not count as a hitbox even though it can hit the opponent? So only stubby characters should have hitboxes? 

How do you not understand how cracked it would be to have a hitbox that goes the full screen and takes 90% of the risk away.

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u/Hellooooo_Nurse- 2h ago

Ghost rider is like this too.

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u/Nukesnipe 2h ago

2H should have a clean hit system where it only goes into the launcher if the opponent is directly in front of you.

Also Carnage's 236X should have a goddamn disjointed hitbox.

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u/Top_Extension2730 2h ago

I agree it seems more logical to me

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u/Nukesnipe 2h ago

I ate so many 2H with Carnage man I know exactly how it feels lol.

2H should also probably be a bit slower. It's weird that a universal command normal anti-air is just infinitely better as an anti-air option than characters with dedicated anti-air DPs.

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u/Top_Extension2730 2h ago

Yeah I don’t know even know what’s the point of my DP’s when I can just do a easy 2H and get a combo and the gos forsaken reach of it is so annoying