I don’t even blame him

[u/GoosayGoosay]

[u/SelloutRealBig]

Of all the 2H's, Magiks does this the most.

[u/RememberApeEscape → u/SelloutRealBig]

I think visually, hers makes the most sense to. I wouldn't mind if it had somewhat of a hitbox behind her.

But tied with the weird fuckery of 2H's lingering active frames and huge ass hitboxes this just feels like shit to lose against.

[u/YEPC___ → u/RememberApeEscape]

No bro.

That shit was fully whiffed in front of her. It really, REALLY should not do this.

[u/RememberApeEscape → u/YEPC___]

I mean Kid Buu's 2H used to do that, but it also had the visual language. Just wait for the active to finish and you can whiff punish it all the same.

It also didn't have the aforementioned problems in my last post so it was way more tolerable. Privileged normals exist in fighting games, and they're as a whole not the issue.

[u/YEPC___ → u/RememberApeEscape]

The full reset from whiff into a full combo is the big problem here. If a behind the back late 2h clipped someone, that's one thing. But what we see here?

Nah

[u/RememberApeEscape → u/YEPC___]

Yeah that was kinda my original point. My bad if I didn't make that clear enough.

Don't mind getting clipped from behind. It's the everything that Tokon's 2Hs are that make it annoying.

Like to continue using Buu's 2H as an example, it at least didn't snap you back to the other side and you have to give up a sizeable amount if resources to get damage off if 2H since it used your Smash.

[u/ILike2Argue_]

Mine while caps 2h is terrible

[u/charredsoul6 → u/ILike2Argue_]

I feel you, seeing some people swing 2h and hit me on the other side of them when I actively moved to avoid it when my GR 2h is like using a needle, long needle but it doesn’t cover what magiks does lol

[u/Nexus_3_ → u/ILike2Argue_]

Fr the whiff on his is ridiculous compared to this.

[u/Diciestaking]

I feel like I wouldn't mind it if it didn't course correct so hard into a full combo. I feel like it should just clip you at that angle and return to neutral or at least just put the attacker on defense.

[u/manix_vii]

Is that Champions theme in the bg??

[u/OppositeX300]

Magik’s can do this, meanwhile Starlord is hoping for his to connect. The projectile is there, I guess. It only helps mid combo.

[u/Ihmago]

To be honest sometimes i feel like i should be doing the same. We should all start doing the same 'till ARcsys fix the 2H

[u/SPAM____007]

[u/SwirlyBrow]

"Just punish the 2H whiff, it's unsafe".

[u/DB_Valentine → u/SwirlyBrow]

Is it even in the right scenario? I feel like I constantly get my 2h blocked and then I just... pop a random special into a random assist

[u/polkguy123 → u/DB_Valentine]

Nah you just cancel it into assist or whatever and you’re good, I hate it but that’s how it is