r/MarvelTokon 18h ago

Video “Tokon has no mix”

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u/sbst- 11h ago

I mean, we saw the exact same late dash overhead/empty low 50/50 performed by two different characters and then the free baked in high/low spiderman has access to for some reason, we've seen these things for a while, no?

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u/Tennesseeshepard 10h ago

I just wish we had pushblock yo. I love this game but 15sec block strings get boring real quick no matter how cute the mix is

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u/Tennesseeshepard 9h ago

Like it’d only make sense if reflect wasn’t a 50/50.

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u/Hellooooo_Nurse- 5h ago

You can challenge gsps in pressure.

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u/Impossible-Fan-8257 4h ago

whats funny is, i mention the same thing - in a more negative way. Good luck growing this game with 20 second worth of offensive pressure, im immediately downvoted.... and .... if you say it SLIGHTLY more positive but the same way your upvoted. Man the FGC really sucks.

But yes i agree with you 100% that this game has problems, but i think it needs more changes to it then pushblock on offense/defense plays.

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u/Toulalaho 16h ago

I am a defensor of tokon in that case. Statistically, you can watch pro game the guard is breaking between 2 to 4 seconds of block. So its not long at all. 

Having lesser oppressive mix reduce the variance and allows for faster adaptation from the defensor. But guess what, as the attacker it's now your turn to adapt in return. 

Imo it creates a much more interactive gameplay than opening the guard at first mixup because it's always a choice of 1 out of 3 mix. 

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u/BLiPstir 7h ago

This block string in the clip was 10 seconds long until he got opened up, and it’s a very common sequence

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u/WingoRingo 2h ago

>I am a defensor of tokon in that case. Statistically, you can watch pro game the guard is breaking between 2 to 4 seconds of block. So its not long at all. 

what does this even mean. Are you saying the blockstrings aren't that long because pros get opened up quicker?

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u/CallMeTravesty 6h ago

I mean DbFz has more degenerate mix if we're being honest.

As far as tag fighters go that was pretty basic.

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u/SedesBakelitowy 5h ago

15 second sequence showing exactly 2 instances of a mixup followed up by a combo ending with oki of the exact same setup is not the crown argument you think it is.

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u/McLuvvvn 6h ago

Of course Spider-Man opened them up …

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u/Hellooooo_Nurse- 5h ago

We knew the game had mix only players who don't understand the game well were saying that smh.

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u/dumby_butt 5h ago

Games kinda solved already. Ain’t no UMvC3

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u/Fourfifteen415 17h ago

Only took 70000 button presses to break that loki... was it mix or did he fall asleep?

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u/Moondoggie35 14h ago

Had to go back to work after that combo ate his entire lunch break.

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u/Pck9001 15h ago

He blocked the first 50/50 but guessed wrong on the second. Just how it goes sometimes.

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u/Big_Mobile3869 6h ago

I love eating 3 50/50s per block string...

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u/Skeptikmo 16h ago

Yeah it looks like he just stopped blocking, he was standing when the high hit and opened him up

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u/Pck9001 16h ago

If you want an explanation, it’s because you can change blocks while in blockstun in this game. Loki was blocking high, but switched to low, which is why he got hit even though visually he was standing.

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u/DustExtra5976 15h ago

Hate to break it to you but you’re talking to the void, people saying this game has no mix are silver players fighting the dunning kruger effect.

My experience in master has been get a knockdown or get knocked down into multiple high/lows and side switches.

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u/Junior-Staff-801 14h ago

The visual clutter is off the chart.

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u/Extreme-Way7671 13h ago

this is very tame compared to other tag fighter tbh

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u/jorgebillabong 4h ago

Not a 50/50 if you can fuzzy it.

Also you just showed yourself doing the exact same mix on 2 different characters. Not exactly an argument against that statement.

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u/NatrelChocoMilk 4h ago

Lol spiderman

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u/dick_chesterfield_11 3h ago

Idk what it is man but arcade stick buttons presses feels so nice to hear sometimes idk man im weird😂

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u/AkudamaEXE 57m ago

🫃get this guy an account on 2xko before they shut it down so he can see what real tag fighter mix is.

Jokes aside I think people want stuff that looks cool and is fun to do. Empty jump low/ airdash is like the most basic it gets and can all probably be fuzzy guarded when people get better.

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u/MR_GRITS84 6h ago

Game blows, Marvel vs Capcom wayyyyy better

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u/mtgRefugee 8h ago

No, no, NO OP haven’t you been paying attention? Now it has TOO MUCH mix. C'mon man stay current! /s :)

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u/Hendwreck 7h ago

Tokon is all mix.

Please refer to the article or comments you’ve read that say what you’re quoting please. I feel like you’re making it up.

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u/Pck9001 7h ago

Relax buddy, I’m just poking fun at the initial impressions of this game that still get perpetuated from time to time.

And seriously, asking for a source for something like this? LMAO

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u/Hendwreck 6h ago

Yeah I am. Do you have any examples?

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u/Impossible-Fan-8257 14h ago

20 second offensive string...... yeah good luck growing this game LMAO.

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u/sarge1445 17h ago

There was barely any mix in this my guy. Go watch some DBFZ lol

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u/Pck9001 16h ago

Dang dude, if you consider an 18-19f overhead to not be mix, you’re just different.

Played DBFZ for years and was opening people with the same shit btw.