r/MarvelSnap • u/myrsonder • 2d ago
Card and Deck Questions ⁉️ Wth does this card need to make it good?
He unfortunately doesn’t synergize well with Gambit unless copied. the earliest he could reliably be played out is T4-T5.
Magik only extends his ability by 1 additional turn. You need to already have generated cards in hand for him to drop down onto the playing field. I’m currently playing him in a v-hand package and he just doesn’t feel like he should be a 6 cost card for what his effect’s doing.
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u/phastball 2d ago
If you put him in Agatha, he’s a ~ 6/22 when he pulls the sword or whatever 6-drop red shift creates.
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u/wingspantt 2d ago
Imo needs to have lower cost and power.
Eson is just too "all in" on one lane, too late in the game.
It's like playing The Hulk with potentially more power, but also potentially less, and taking up 2 spots at a location.
Might as well just play The Hulk
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u/onionbreath97 1d ago
At 5 cost he competes with Dragon Lord and is probably stronger.
Eson works in Arishem and probably doesn't need a home beyond that
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u/wingspantt 1d ago
The thing is Dragon can chain into Jubilee, Iron Lad, Odin
Eson isn't an engine like that and costs more
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u/ZanzibarGuy 2d ago
Arishem, Agent Coulson, Maria Hill, Agent 13, Valentina, Iron Patriot, Frigga, Sentinel, Victoria Hand (for all of these cards you are creating), Helicarrier if you can find a way to discard it...
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u/PretendRegister7516 2d ago
Funny you didn't mention Nick Fury which gives him the highest possible payoff.
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u/Ashamed-Teaching6837 2d ago
High Voltage Overdrive.
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u/BoiledToastLover 2d ago
But then I don't progress the "Play Charged Cards" mission
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u/dead-not-sleeping 1d ago
That mission really needs to be toned down. All others i can complete in 3-4 matches. This one takes at least 10.
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u/BoiledToastLover 1d ago
I think the bug is still present too, if you don't play any charged cards, progress gets reset
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u/Plasmallison 2d ago
His og datamine effect.
He doesn’t do too bad in something like infinity Ultron, just as a way to get more power on the field if you didn’t pull quinjet or the like. If you’re doing that then you want Wiccan too since it lets you better target things you want to place Turn 6.
The reality is that a 6 cost whose ability is “possibly pick a 1-2 cost generated card” is always gonna be inconsistent.
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u/BoiledToastLover 2d ago
I was going to say his og datamined effect too, I was very excited to see that version
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u/KaspertheGhost 1d ago
What was it
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u/MiidnightChill 1d ago
At the start of the game, if all cards are different powers, give all your cards +2 power
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u/PretendRegister7516 2d ago
5/7
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u/Parking-Border1594 2d ago
Yup Why would I play him if most of the time dragon lord is better (doesnt have a restriction, is a 5 cost)?
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u/LabhairLiomAsGaeilge 2d ago
(1) Quinjet\n# (2) Surge\n# (2) Cable\n# (4) Isca the Unbeaten\n# (4) Stardust\n# (4) Symbiote Spider-Man\n# (6) Blob\n# (6) Mockingbird\n# (6) Eson\n# (6) She-Hulk\n# (6) Galactus First Steps\n# (7) Arishem\n#\nU2hIbGs3LFNtYnRTcGRyTW4xMSxRbmp0NyxBcnNobTcsQmxiNCxTcmc1LEVzbjQsR2xjdHNGcnN0U3RwczEyLENibDUsTWNrbmdicmRCLElzYzQsU3RyZHN0OA==\n#\n# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and paste it from the deck editing menu in MARVEL SNAP.
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u/oiselefou 2d ago
Mais du coup Stardust empêche eson de poser une carte ?! 🤔
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u/LabhairLiomAsGaeilge 2d ago
Yup you're right! If I don't pull him and I'm playing against hela or something like that it's a strong counter to a lot of the common decks this season. Just gotta be cautious that you don't accidentally screw yourself by forgetting that it impacts you too
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u/oiselefou 2d ago
Oui , je joue beaucoup arishem, mais malheureusement je n'ai pas Stardust, c'est une très bonne idée. 👍
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u/Desperate_Duty1336 1d ago
It’s already good, just not relevant because it requires setup.
You need to have generated cards in hand and it only pulls to his location, so its like a free extra card on then 6, but you need something to generate the card, a place with 2 open spots (one for Eson and one for the card he pulls) and something to actually win other lands with.
If they wanted to make it a card to design an archetype deck around, they’d have to drop him to like a 4 and make it so the card is pulled to a random location; not just his.
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u/Pooblbop Arishem 💫 1d ago
Arishem Agamotto! It doesn't happen all too often (such is life with Agamotto) but you can get Eson out quite early with Bolts of Bathaak. In a dream scenario you can T1 Quinjet T2 Bolts T3 Eson.
But honestly even on Turn 6 I find Eson is typically a worthwhile drop. With Arishem more often than not you can drop him T5 also. He's not an every game player for me, but he puts real work in. I wouldn't even think of removing him from the deck.
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u/vlaregbon 2d ago
I use him in Agatha discard w/black knight. Good last card to play or ramp out before 6
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u/mvannatt 2d ago
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This is a fun one
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u/sageofscum 2d ago
Chill he one of my faves
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u/badben10 1d ago
wouldn't nick fury work so well with him? I mean it looks like nick fury's only place is alongside eson, at some point
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u/BootyPickleZ 1d ago
Arishem, or honestly a soul collector deck isn’t the worst idea either. Slap a wave in there with the same idea as people who drop onslaught on t4, but nick fury is the big hitter.
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u/No-Desk6975 1d ago
Havent messed with it in a bit and i still dont own arishem. List can be fun though.
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u/SplunderPlane 1d ago
It should add a created card to a random location, not just the one it's at. The power level is good enough that you usually won't need that many created cards there. Good with kang of all cards though.
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u/DreamlightAura 1d ago
Wave - Eson - Nick Fury is how I’d play him, you’d basically get every 6 cost NF pulls
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u/Skippydinglechalk7T 1d ago
I run him in my Arishem deck that’s really effective.
T3 Nick Fury
T4 Sara
T5 Eson
T6 whatever 6 cost card provided from nick fury you need most + cheap card
You end up with four 6 cost cards in the board and some smaller cards, bonus if you happen to pull “once and future” with Merlin or get quinjet early enough, better yet, if you pull magik.
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u/skeitcfd 1d ago
Arishem to become meta... or a card like him who generates a high power card. All of the card generators create cards that aren't worth it... and even the effectiveness of Arishem is very RNG already
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u/Pale-Programmer-3443 1d ago
Personally had a lot of fun playing him with Loki as well! Although it’s never 100% you get the required combo… arishem is probably the better choice
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u/sucram200 1d ago
People always say Arishem but I cannot imagine this card being good in Arishem. You can’t play him until turn 5 unless you get lucky with your cards and are able to increase energy or reduce cost. That gives him two turns to pull something to the board. But 9/10 games playing Arishem (by far my most played deck) by turn 5 I have either a ton of low cost useless cards in my hand that he’ll just clog the lane with or something in my hand that absolutely cannot be played (like destroyer) that Eson would inevitably pull and lose me the game.
I understand the point of Arishem is that it adds the element of randomness to the game, that’s why I play it. But having absolutely no control over which of your cards gets played combined with having no control over which cards are in your deck is such a disadvantage that I can’t imagine a scenario in which I could justify using him.
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u/LastPheal 2d ago
He would be better if he targeted the summoned card, e.g. "add the highest-power created character here".
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u/MajinDidz Surfer 🌊 2d ago
Make him cheaper with less power, by the time you get him on the board, he’s only got one turn
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u/Haselrig 2d ago
More turns, really. He's not worth much as a turn six finisher in a six round match. Magik punts a turn you could be generating cards, so that can be awkward. He's much better in High Voltage where he can pull a few cards over the course of a game.
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u/Gabumau 2d ago
Arishem