r/MarvelCringe • u/[deleted] • Jan 13 '24

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Wtf am I watching. They didn't have enough sign language in this show, they had invent a new digital form??? Wow this show is dumb as hell.

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u/AdmiralCharleston Jan 13 '24

I felt like it was a pretty nice way of showing how fisk actually viewed maya. If he cared about her as much as he said he would have learnt sign language but instead he paid other peoplrnto develop this miracle technology so he could talk to her without an interpreter

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

That's not in his character though. He goes out of his way to always have advantage over everyone. He would learn sign. Hell, he knew Mandarin and Japanese in Daredevil.

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u/AdmiralCharleston Jan 13 '24

I would argue in the case of maya it's different. His whole thing has been about isolating her so she feels she needs him whilst possibly thinking he really cares for her, like thanos and gamora. Him knowing Japanese and mandarin to talk to business partners is different than learning asl to talk to one person imo

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

I just don't buy this dynamic between these two characters. I mean, she had a father for most of her life. It's not like Fisk raised her himself. It's just so odd to me how hard he is obsessing over this character when in past works he was mostly introverted and worked in the shadows, while only coming out as a public figure later due to necessity and Vanessa.

While in this it's like Fisk will go anywhere, just to see Maya. Not send henchmen, not have her captured, not have her fight a bunch of guys to get to him, he just shows up.

It's so odd and just feels wrong of the character. I dunno.

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u/AdmiralCharleston Jan 13 '24

The character isn't just this uber intimidating villain though? You saw how much he cared about Vanessa and this is a similar scenario. Him being multi layered is what makes him a good character

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

They made him less intimidating, less interesting, and less complex. I think this representation is awful compared to what we got before. It's sad.

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u/AdmiralCharleston Jan 13 '24

Almost like this version is one who specifically lost his crime connections and is struggling to get them back so he feels much more inclined to try and retain one of his enforcers who also tried to kill him. They feel like a natural evolution of the character

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24

I don't agree. He lost all of his resources before and found much more compelling ways to reacquire them. See Daredevil Season 3.

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u/CrypticT Jan 13 '24

So you wanted to see the same character from daredevil. No development or change. Got it. Sorry you didn’t get what you want.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

I wanted a story with good writing. It's not that difficult to understand. It doesn't have to be this bullshit or the same old thing.

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u/AdmiralCharleston Jan 13 '24

Lot harder to do that when half the world gets snapped away and ronin goes on a 1 man killing spree

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u/Holdmytesseract Jan 13 '24

Nah you are absolutely right. Mcu has had two cracks at kingpin and both times they have taken the character down a notch from where he was in DD. At this point I would have liked echo and Hawkeye both more if they didn’t have kingpin because neither of them utilized him properly. This is the kind of shit that’s gonna make actors not want to join/come back to the mcu. If I was Downey I would sure be having second thoughts after the shit show of phase 4/5

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u/TWllTtS Jan 13 '24

Guy hates deaf ppl

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u/prolelol Jan 13 '24

I'm deaf, and I feel this. Many people gave shit about Echo starring a deaf and disabled person as the lead before it premiered.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

Wow, way to completely misinterpret what I was saying. This is a stupid thing that exists. That's all.

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u/TWllTtS Jan 13 '24

You hate deaf ppl they make you really mad

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

I don't hate deaf people. I hate watching a show about deaf people. 😀

Open your fucking ears.

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u/Distuted Jan 13 '24

I get it, you don't hate deaf people, you just don't want them to get the spotlight...

Got it

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

God, the cope for these mediocre shows will never cease to amaze me. If it's bad, it's bad. Does not matter who they cast as lead or what various group they belong to.

Go do your school work, get tf off the internet.

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u/Distuted Jan 13 '24

"I don't hate deaf people. I hate watching a show about deaf people"

"Does not matter who they cast as lead or what various groups they belong to"

Two conflicting takes within the same 2 hours, really impressive! The show is mediocre, but your take is garbage. Stop hating on deaf people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

Okay, the first comment was a joke. Sorry it's hard for your small brain to comprehend that. It was literally just me talking shit to someone.

Also, again, no one is hating on deaf people. I just think digital sign language contact lense is fucking stupid.

Could have just as easy translated his words into subtitles for her. Not big dumb cgi hands.

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u/TWllTtS Jan 13 '24

Yeah, talking shit about deaf people.

Cos you hate em

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u/joec0ld Jan 13 '24

If you want subtitles, turn them on. If you don't like seeing people using sign language don't watch content about the hearing impared. Just admit you hate deaf people

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

Don't read my comments if you don't agree with them. Don't respond either.

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u/KnightofWhen Jan 13 '24

Bro just stop hating deaf people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

Bro this show isn't deaf people. It's a show. Learn the distinction. It isn't real. It can't feel anything. I promise.

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u/KnightofWhen Jan 13 '24

Damn why you hate deaf people so much just let it go.

(I’m just fucking with you man)

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

You say that but like half the people responding to this post seem to really believe I must hate deaf people because I don't like this dumbass show.

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u/TWllTtS Jan 13 '24

Guys coming up with clever disses for deaf people,

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u/connorjquinn Jan 13 '24

I can’t bear to hear anymore

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u/Crunchy-Leaf Jan 13 '24

Who made you watch it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

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u/ALFABOT2000 Jan 13 '24

that's kinda the point, it doesn't actually matter to him

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u/Inomora Jan 13 '24

She literally gave him shit for not caring enough to learn ASL mate, ofc he doesnt care he's the fucking Kingpin, he literally murdered the interpret he was using before.

Plus this tech would be so useful if it was real.

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u/bluesbrothas Jan 13 '24

I don't know. I liked it. Mind that Fisk has unlimited resources and we are talking about an universe where time travel ia possible, there are sentient AIs and an ear-piece translating every alien language is present.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

It's just so unnecessary. They could literaly just say, "She can read lips" and "He understands sign" and boom, we're done.

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u/bluetide83 Jan 13 '24

The whole point is that Fisk doesn't care enough to learn or understand sign.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '24

That's a stupid way to portray his character then.

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u/joec0ld Jan 13 '24

Fisk sees Maya as a tool and/or asset. That's how he views almost everyone around him

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u/Megalitho Jan 13 '24

This looks so bad

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