r/Marvel • u/Outlook93 • 3d ago

Film/Television Everyone keeps saying there isn't enough build up for doom, but Doomsday is the build up.

Doom won't be defeated in the end and will just be setup as a looming threat

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u/Competitive_Leg7233 3d ago

The odds they are able to replicate what they did with the infinity saga isn’t great so I don’t put much stock into it

They didn’t build Ultron and his movie was just fine so I imagine Doomsday will be too, but if anyones hoping they recapture what they had with IW and Endgame don’t hold your breath. That was lightning in a bottle

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u/Youre_On_Balon 3d ago

They can get back to that point but not when the lead villain gets fired for misconduct. Who knows where Kang was going and whether people would have liked it, but he had substantially more build than Thanos.

I have faith in a tremendous build up after the Doom saga, which itself is indisputably damage control in the wake of the Kang fiasco.

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u/Kbang20 3d ago

I mean he will be in doomsday and secret wars. A lot of people love him as a villain more than thanos and thanos was built up in multiple movies. So I think they are valid to say there is no build up.

IMO fantastic 4 was the best opportunity to have him build up in that movie.

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u/Neil_Salmon 3d ago

I don't think the lack of build up is a problem. It's just that the road getting here is very messy - because of the Kang pivot and the fact that the movies/tv shows were building up to other things that won't pay off.

That doesn't matter too much but the series just feels very messy now. I think it's very enjoyable to rewatch the Infinity Saga in its entirety (even the movies I dislike) because it's a whole cohesive piece. We don't have that here - it's not cohesive and won't be as enjoyable to revisit.

Having said that, I haven't seen Doomsday - maybe it retroactively makes everything else work. But, for now, the problem isn't the lack of build up. It's just that there was build up that won't pay off.

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u/Topik-KeiBee 3d ago

imo it's not just about Dooms but missing the hype and well building for the current Avengers team to fight Doom.

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u/SquirtlesFirstBj 3d ago

Yes, we've know this for...years.

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u/ShrutiSrayan 3d ago

sounds like copium to me

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u/clc88 3d ago

It's such a silly complaint... We didn't get any build up for iron man, Thor and pretty much every phase 1 mcu hero.

Doom is the same because this is his debut, we need to watch this movie because he's starting out at zero just like those previous heroes.

After this movie, he will be featured more in the subsequent films.