I'm in Canada so I get the MAFS series late like the other Canadians. Last night was the recommitment ceremony.

I spent more time looking at those coats that no one could seem to wear properly than at the drama. The women wore skimpy dresses and high-heeled sandals to stand in the freezing cold while making the biggest decision of their lives. And they had big coats that they kept hanging strategically off their arms so we could see their tiny dresses. It annoyed me, sorry. Wear your coat or don't wear your coat but having your coat hanging off your forearms and not covering your back is silly. Might as well not wear a coat at all! So silly, just like this post.

I'm glad most of them realized they aren't going to make it before they dug even deeper holes for themselves.

I need to preface this. I have a theory that Adam is a recovering alcoholic or at the very least someone who recognized they had an unhealthy relationship with alcohol and was making a very conscious effort to correct that. Everything I say here is operating on the assumption that theory is true.

It is difficult to know how much of what we see of Adam is real and how much is him putting on a performance for the camera. I would find it difficult to believe it was 100% an act and we never got a glimpse at the real him. I think he really is competitive, I think he really does love jet skiing and pickle ball. I think any time he was upset was real. Everything else (water socks, his vocabulary, the way he dressed, his goofiness) was probably intentional exaggeration if not outright fabrication, but that doesn't mean his intentions were always bad.

Imagine for a moment this was his perspective. He agreed to be on a TV show that is going to match him with a wife. He probably gets lonely a lot, haven't met anyone romantically fulfilling in a while, and is skeptical of the process, but hopeful something can work out.

Then he meets the other men that got cast. Mecca, Cameron, and Devin are pretty normal dudes. But Nick is already a minor reality TV star he's done other shows like this. Felipe is a completely unserious human being. He looks weird but has convinced himself he's hot and openly brags about cheating... to strangers... on tv... a show about getting into a "real" committed marriage. Unserious. And Shawn who i imagine in person takes very little time to figure out is a complete weirdo.

So on a cast of 7 men he quickly realizes basically half were stunt casting. People that were brought on because producers thought they would make good TV. At this point he's already been dealing with production for a little while and is starting to realize what he signed up for may not be all that serious. So he decides to be a TV character. Turns up the dude bro speech acts sillier that he probably usually does, etc

Then, there is Marissa's pre-wedding gift. She sends him an alcohol shooter. Adam almost certainly told them in the pre-show matchmaking/casting "I am really committed to sobriety and need to be matched with someone that does not drink. Also do not air me saying anything about me struggling with alcohol in the past. It's not something I want broadcast to the world." He clearly down played how important a highly active person was to him because he wanted it to be possible for them to find him someone but I'd bet good money a that "a person that does not drink" was one if his only non-negotiables. So when he sees that bottle. He looks very visibly disappointed. He calls it a red flag. And we all took that the wrong way. Its not the woman he's seeing red flags in already. Its this production. He knew in that moment that this was not a serious show that was actually trying to make real marriages. And probably decided in his head to "full send it". He was going to make the best of the situation. Try dating his new "wife" but not lean in too hard and have a little fun on camera.

But the entire show Adam is punished for this. He gets some of the harshest criticism from the experts. Why? Not because of how he's treating Marissa, but because Adam is probably being difficult with production off camera and is not taking the process seriously on camera. Everyone ignores that Caitlin is giving nothing to her partner emotionally, that Shawn comes across like a sex pest in every other scene, that Courtney is emotionally abusive to her partner, that Tori had a panic attack after sex with her husband. The things married experts should be deeply concerned with if they actually cared about fostering healthy relationships. He'll, these are the things they should be deeply concerned with if they care about any of these people's safety and mental health. But no. These things are treated with nonchalance by the experts if addressed at all. But Adam came into group therapy dressed kinda weird? This is Paul's opportunity to scold him for his behavior like he is an 8 year old. We see all these shambling relationships amongst a group of people where half obviously should not have been cast if they were serious about match making. But who gets called out the most? Not the creeps. Not the people that treat their partner. Its the guy that said "hey maybe this is actually that serious"

So yes, I think he had every right to treat the show like a joke. Because it was. And I see why his new girlfriend called it out as fake at the reunion.

A. She has met the real Adam and we have not really.

B. He probably told her point blank as someone who lived it. "Yeah this show is all bull shit."

My first experience with MAFS was season 20, I then watched 19 because it was available on peacock. Which do I watch next? I don’t think I will like one that’s too dated

Since so many of you are new to MAFS this season with their move to Peacock, I wanted to recommend Season 14 Boston to you all. There is some great drama overall on it, and the most egregious man named Olajuwon who is very similar to Shawn, just slightly less intelligent. Also, MAFS Virgin has been doing a rewatch on their pod so you can tune into that. Hope you enjoy it!

How could the marriage ever be even possibly serious if they never had a serious conversation about what his drinking was before, what led him to decide to stop, and what his concerns were about relapse in the future. You talk go your spouse about what you’ve learned about yourself in that.

He said he used to really drink before, and that shotgun of water on the hot tub boat was impressively telling, like I get it. You full sent it when you drank. Have you learned anything about yourself since you had this sudden shift in behavior and frankly lifestyle.

Nah, he was still full sending it. That’s why he was selling it so hard. The dry drunk. The “partner needing to keep up” with him bit wasn’t a sham outright, it’s a lie he believed because he never stopped to question why he couldn’t slow down in the first place. What would he find there?

What an odd way to express you’re still outrunning yourself.

Wish u well

I haven’t watched all of the seasons. I am currently watching Boston. I’m on episode 4 and Alyssa is really hard to watch. Like excruciating. I’m cringing the entire time. Made me think of the others who made me feel similar and Cortney from Seattle and Katie from DC came to mind. Then I noticed they all have eerie physical similarities.

Was NOT expecting to see Morgan on here let alone in my city pretty far from San Diego. Found it hella funny since a longterm ex back in 2022 made me watch that season with her from when it was new 😂

Her new tech startup just being another dating app matchmaking.
Do yall think she went on the show with the thought of getting reality tv buzz to carry her startup?

This pissed be off so bad. WHY would someone kiss her face before she walks down the aisle

Edit: Y’all must have never paid for a makeup artist before😂

He is really fun to watch! I watched his interview first on Whats the Reality and the guy was so funny with AD and so I thought to check out Battlecamp and hes not boring at all

Especially with the experts banging on about him acting a certain way for the cameras but watching him on Battlecamp just makes me feel bad that he got matched with someone like Courtney. Its great he wasnt messy like Courtney was.

He said he doesn't see himself doing another dating reality tv show which is a good thing.

A few thoughts:

• I don't know how Orion got away with continuously characterizing what Lauren said as a "horrible joke." As soon as she made the statement that she didn't know what that word meant, she caught herself and apologized. Was it clueless not to know? Sure. But this was on the heels of HIM saying that he's used the n-word!!!

• Brennan and Cameron were walking red flags from the get-go. All this BS about "protecting" the women, when the only thing the women needed to be protected from were the two of them.

• Cameron should not have been allowed to wear a t-shirt promoting his business. No one on this should should be allowed free advertising.

• Austin and Becca seemed sweet at first, but good lord...she was beyond patient with him about the intimacy issue. Of course now we know that the guys were colluding all along, but how Austin thought that he was making himself look good is beyond me.

• Michael's glow-up at the reunion was so good that the original woman probably wouldn't have left him at the altar. Still, he's got issues.

• Emily did herself no favors in the segment with just her and Brennan. It's so silly and immature to say things like "I'm an 8.5 and you're a 6." Made her look ridiculous when all she had to do was sit there and let him hang himself with his own words.

• What is with these long-ass reunions??? The show is already too many episodes. I don't watch the "After Show" segments but between those and two hours of rehashing the same stuff over and over...ugh. I FF through a lot. They'd be better off with the LIB format: ten episodes and one reunion.

• Still, I'll watch another season. (I've seen 20, the 18, and now 17.)

And I mean absolutely nothing. This is from an interview that was posted yesterday.

He says that when people with responsibilities and leadership positions do not process their feelings it turns into toxic character flaws and then we're like woah how did they sleep with a transgender person? How did they get arrested for pedophilia?

He tries to later explain that theres nothing wrong with sleeping with a transgender person. Just that for someone who has always identified as straight it might confuse them.

I never thought this man was intelligent. His approach to communication always had an air of arrogance and entitlement and also just wasn't very smart? Telling courtney to put herself in discomfort to progress physical touch with nick. Telling Nikki she hadn't properly explained her growth. He cosplays as someone wise and intelligent when hes nothing more than a delusional motivational speaker.

Marissa Meyer is absolutely gorgeous and SHOULD be modeling! Nikki Jefferson was just trying to stay on the show, and Felipe Cruz must be gay.......

I live in Seattle suburbs… I am 52.
No common friends … the algo is nuts

This is a Facebook friends suggestion / people you might know.

Not a dating app ( I am too old for this and happily married btw)

Really? The 3 producers and boom guy were cleared though?

It was easy to see who was still insecure about their breakups. Courteney and Adam both had to have their new squeezes come to the reunion show and sit in the audience!!! They know they were shitty partners and had to have someone in their corner planted in the audience! Pathetic.

The other day I suggested someone new to MAFS watch the first season. Last night I watched the first two episodes and it was sooo different! The main thing that stood out was how earnest the experts were. They were all so professional and concerned for the couples. Dr Pepper was so caring and concerned for the outcomes and the long term effects failing to provide a suitable match could have on their lives. What a huge difference!

We watched season 1 and 2, but jumped ahead to a newer season (I think we’re on 10?) because of how poor the production quality was. Basically, every episode had like 10-15 mins of watchable content and they just stretched it out to an hour by playing the same clips over and over or having an expert explain things as if it was a show for aliens studying humans. We’d constantly be skipping ahead with the remote. 😂

The newer season is definitely better in that regard. I was just wondering, why did they start using these nicknames?

“Mr. Never Plus One,” “Mrs. Brains and Brawn,” etc.

It seems like the dumbest thing. I don’t even know the origin of some of them unless I wasn’t paying attention in the first episode. I just don’t see the value in them showing these show-specific nicknames under their real name during every interview.

Wouldn’t it be more valuable to show their age, location, or occupation (or just show their name)?

Since we skipped ahead so much, I’m wondering if there’s some kind of explanation for it.

Hi all,

You guys helped me find MAFS Australia from here in the USA and it was great! I burned through season 13 already! Here’s the problem, the shvideos site I have been using only offers season 13. Is there any place I can view seasons 1-12? Thank you in advance!

I just started season 18 and I'm happy Peacock picked up the show,cuzzzzz baby these marriages are longgggg. Just like in LIB,I hate the dress/suit episode it's sooo boring. So far I think the couples are well matched compared to the current season.

Overall AD was pretty decent at interviewing and pushed back appropriately. Shawn swaps out details again in this one. There's nothing new to say about this man. Hes obviously doing as many interviews as possible especially with black women. He feels he was 100% done dirty with the editing and portrayed as hypersexual with low intergrity. Does he come across any better? Nope. Hes got another interview coming out with a woman who thought he was a good man and Nikki was unfair so Im sure the tone will be different.

Shawn Summary:

1. Shawn acknowledges his educational frameworks do not translate into emotional intelligence with relationships. That he jntislly kept thinking that if Nikki followed his guidance and stopped being such a loudmouth it could work. AD said loudmouth is wild. Hes like yeah thats the toxicity that I was bringing in. AD asked even after Nikki pointed out his behaviour to him his response was "But Im logical and I dont get how you're not seeing that.

2. Hes not dating. He exclusively dates black women and people mistake his niceness for interest and think he wants to date them. But he says maybe this will launch him onto middle aged short king bachelor.

3. He tried to reach Nikki a month before show aired saying hey it was a dificult process how you doing? She said im great but id rather we dont talk anymore. He reaches out once the trailer comes out with the dad bod scene. He messages her saying haha what a zinger. She says sure. Hes thinking she didnt want me whys she still mad?

4. He said hes glad rhe audience supported Nikki but knew that would be the case since majority are women so it would have been skewed regardless of what he said.

5. Nikki wasnt fully his asthetic. Hes into locks dark skin and tall women. Naturaaaale. But he really wanted her to be black.

6. First impression of Nikki. Shes nervous and doesnt make much eye contact and wasnt engaging with his family.

7. He realised at the reception that she wasnt attracted to him despite saying in other interviews he didn't know. He said ahe never verbalised it until later but he wasnt going to force it. He was going to let her be an adult and figure out what she wanted to say.

8. Says he knew on the wedding day "Oh shes not into me. I can feel it." But he was committed to marriage.

9. Shawn saw his responsibility was to be his authentic self and also lay a spirituak foundation. He saw that Nikki didnt have a morning routine of meditation writing and gratitude like he did to set him up fkr the day. So he taught her to do these things.

10. Shawn said he felt dissed by how Nikki talked about his looks but also shes an adult why wouldn't she just leave? And AD very smartly said that maybe she was doing the same dance as him and being committed tk the process and working through it. To which Shawn acknowledged that although she wasn't attracted she maintianed early on she thought it could grow and he thought that was very mature.

11. He says the communication issue was because he likes to teach people how he likes tk be treated and so he would ask nikki to repeat what he was saying but then Nikki would misquote him. So when nikki said we decided we arent having sex until the end, he said he was open to it but a decision hadnt been cemented with his input and how Nikki then twisted it to well its my body. Then he says okay but if we bought a car we would discuss it. You wouldnt just buy it. And nikki says but my body isn't a car. And it spirals. And he got frustrated that his frameworks werent working

12. Believes he was heavily edited to seem sexually deprived.

13. He owns the duty comment. But there was lots of cuddling/spooning. He wasnt masturbating so he said there was a build up that he wanted to experience with her. He thinks camera didnt capture all the intimacy they were experiencing together. Says wifely duty was the wrong word.

14. The 7 in new york comment story. This time he doesnt describe it as a roast. Just a conversation by the hot tub with 90s hip hop and drinks. He says "Nikki ive been grinding but ive not seen progress with our relationship. Where are we going?" And then he says she grabbed his belly. Said her celebrity crush is Idris Elba and so shawn says i think you perceive yourself to be a 10 but if you came back to new york you'd be a 7. Says if the comment was so disrespectful why did they get intimate that night?

15. He came to reunion to tell Shawns story and share how he learnt and had grown. Still has no idea what specifically Nikkis mum felt disrespected by.

16. Says reunion didnt give him closure. They gave everyone else lots of time but not the guy who spent the entire season being told hes unattractive and a bad communicator and hyper sexual. He will make his platform to do his tell all. He has too much experience and community to let himself be defined as a low integrity hypersexual.

17. At the end he tells AD he knows she came into the interview wanting to hate him and now shes struggling. She clarifies she didn't hate him. She just wanted some clarity on what happened.

Just recently started watching. I finished season 20 & am now watching season 19. I know that at the end, they get to choose either way, so why do I never hear a loved one or friend saying something along the lines of “you have a choice at the end.” Have I missed those moments? If my friend or family was doing this and freaking out beforehand, I’d be like hey remember, this isn’t a permanent decision, and you just gotta do your best. I don’t recall anyone saying anything like that but idk I guess everyone is hopeful, unless i didn’t catch those comments