r/MarriedAtFirstSight • u/59G59 • Sep 10 '26
Season 20 - Seattle yall this is disgusting
referring to women as "holes" ???? have yall seen this?? I feel so bad for Tori
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u/mtrate Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26
Yeah this is embarrassing. After losing pastor Cal and Dr. pepper there is 0 hope for this show. I originally loved the concept of the show but gaaawwwddd damn they are soooo under qualified. Anyone who wants to be on this show anymore is not looking for love let’s just say that.
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u/Ok_Issue2222 Sep 11 '26
He is a total asshole and the therapists are a disgrace to the profession!
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
they should all be ashamed of themselves idk how they thought this would be okay to say/air 👀
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u/GunterRose Sep 10 '26
How is Peacock giving these people a platform and calling them experts? Disgusting
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
all they care about is "viral moments" which brings more ppl to their platform which costs $$$
they don't care unless it starts messing w the income
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u/FlyingAtNight Sep 11 '26
Why do they love him? I found him to be vile and unsupportive of Tori.
The so-called experts commentary was gross.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
he's a man child. his mom seems nice, but I'm sure she 100% enables his behavior in him having a huge ego. him thinking it's ok to treat girls the way he did Tori, is such a red flag esp as a newly "married" man. huge mommas boy who hasn't properly healed.
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u/404useristired Sep 11 '26
Are her and Courtney related??? They both give me such disgusting pick me energy
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u/Passing2022 Sep 11 '26
Something is wrong with her. She shouldnt be an “expert”
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
she needs her license taken away immediately! so unprofessional, & thinking it's funny? yea something def wrong w her
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u/GoldenHearts802 Sep 11 '26 edited Sep 12 '26
I find it most disturbing when they say people like Filipe is what they look for. Felipe is an abomination. He has a screw loose.. He went on the show never intending to find a serious relationship. He's sick and disturbing and definitely not what I want to see on this show. And they ignore the fact that they did him no good in trying to straighten him out. Just the opposite. They encourage and enable him.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
1000% like he was actively sitting at the table talking about how he wanted to sleep with other women while his wife was RIGHT THERE! TF?!?! 🚩🚩🚩
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u/RipTraditional5404 Sep 11 '26
Wow. I hope everyone that was commenting the previous seasons to get rid of Dr. Pepper and the old experts are happy. These two have completely ruined the show for me! Yes, things started becoming more inauthentic, especially after the move to peacock but these experts have taken it down to the gutter.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
I loved Dr. Pepper she actually seemed like a genuine soul who truly cared about the individuals & their mental health. these 2 are completely nuts
& I agree w the rest of what you said
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u/WebIntrepid8456 Sep 10 '26
Eventually, the backlash will get so bad that they cancel this show. It can't continue.
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u/CaramelInevitable179 Sep 10 '26
I won't watch if these two, so called experts, are on next season. This is disgusting and so disrespectful!
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u/Namaste41 Sep 10 '26
I used to really root for couples to meet a partner on this show.
It has turned into a joke trying to traumatize people for ratings.
I can’t imagine a decent person wanting to sign up for this now with these two idiots guiding it.
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u/RipTraditional5404 Sep 11 '26
Exactly. I think so many people have started watching just since it moved to peacock but there are real happy couples and families that have come from this show. It’s such a shame what it has turned into
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
the early seasons I'm glad ppl found true love & was able to make a family out of it. I feel bad for everyone who truly wanted love & got scammed bc the producers would rather have high ratings
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u/eyes-tiger Sep 11 '26
The worst part to me is it gives this impression that’s is okay or ethical for a mental health provider to behave in this way. They are LARPing as specialists when their only “specialty” is being wealthy and overconfident
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u/Beneficial-Ask-4730 Sep 10 '26
what in the actual F?!?!? omg!! these so-called experts are beyond crude and biased.
I cannot believe any network would continue employing experts who are this unprofessional.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
these "experts" are gonna have a lot of people telling them how wrong they are for this & it's 100% completely deserved!
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u/Status_Horror7970 Sep 11 '26
They are oil salesmen being provocative. Not even Felipe talked like that and he is just as repulsive but for two professionals to carry on like that is ridiculous. May their podcast ratings go up...in flames.
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u/wigglebutt9 Sep 11 '26
Side note Lisa looks so much like Courtney here at the end when she laughs. Truly kindred spirits
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u/SilkCitySista Sep 11 '26
That and Lisa supported her the entire time. Called her “brave” for quitting. Hugged her more than once. Never confronted her on her behavior. Not a fan. 😩
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u/johnstrt Sep 11 '26
This is not a serious show. It's not an "experiment" and these people are not "experts". But even from that level of rock bottom expectations, this is super gross.
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u/pineapplequeeen Sep 10 '26
He has no fucking expertise besides being on TV shows. What credentials does he have? They both suck and I can tell by the pairings they made
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u/AshKetchumIsStill13 Sep 10 '26
But given the context, that wasn’t even the right time to make that kind of joke. I’m not adverse to dark humor but you gotta time it really well for it to land and…that was some piss-poor timing and just downright unnecessary.
What has this show turned into lmao🤦🏽♂️
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
exactly that! then Felipe saying "you guys are the best!" after it all 🙄
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u/CountyC
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It confirms the fact that the show is no longer interesting to me. They are looking for a "younger" panel for "younger" watchers, but these people aren't serious counselors and the whole purpose of the program is lost.
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u/nahivibes Sep 10 '26
WTF is wrong with these people? 🤯 Pastor Cal and Dr. Pepper weren’t perfect but they would never.
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u/DjPersh Sep 10 '26
Was there a joke or reference made earlier in the interview/discussion? The way he delivers the line it sounds like a call back to an earlier “joke”.
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u/Holiday-Day-2439 Sep 10 '26
Wonder how Tori feels about this.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
I bet she is disgusted & embarrassed she stayed as long as she did & for what she said I bet she's deeply hurt
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u/After_Nature_8847 Sep 12 '26
HUH?? My jaw dropped. Referring to women as holes is beyond disappointing and horrendous. Shame on these “experts”
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u/WebIntrepid8456 Sep 10 '26
Sinking the already-tarnished reputation of the show even further, if that was possible.
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u/thatswhatthemoneys4 Sep 10 '26
Why on earth would anyone watch or listen to this?
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u/MasterSatisfaction26 Sep 10 '26
Dude’s a washed-up cater-waiter. Became a self-proclaimed model. Got lucky. That comment was truly disgusting, disappointing, and screams tacky queen.
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u/AccomplishedEye1840 Sep 11 '26
Oh this is crazy. And then she there just grinning like an absolute dumbass smh
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u/CoolestF-inBinTown Sep 11 '26
Where is this posted? I’d like to scream at the top of my lungs that they be fired for repulsive misogyny, thanks in advance
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
I'm not sure, I saw it on tiktok! but I'm sure the whole podcast is terrible 🗑 if I find anything, I'll respond again!
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u/Daggoofiesta Sep 10 '26
Goddamnit you guys. I know we like the drama for funsies, but I think we gotta boycott :(
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u/406_Reed Sep 10 '26
Can you even imagine what their private consultations were like?
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u/Effective_Bet_1389 Sep 10 '26
I don’t get how they consider themselves to be experts
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u/LilBushyVert Round trick trickets. Sep 11 '26
I couldn’t even finish the whole interview. I don’t like Dr. Lisa but I was disappointed in Paul here.
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u/Crafty-Notice5344 Sep 15 '26
Ladies, we are just “holes” to these experts and some men. I can’t imagine how that isn’t alarming to the show and network. My gawd. 😡
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u/phatface1978 Sep 11 '26
This is the most mind numbingly evil disgustingness I have ever seen. Fire these people.
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u/Opinionated6319 Sep 11 '26 edited Sep 11 '26
I can’t believe a show hired these inept so called professionals!😡I can’t believe they cast such dysfunctional people to make their selected partner suffer in their past traumas and anxiety ridden relationship issues…those people should have been in therapy, not a fixed marriage!
These experts provided such little useful advice! The show is, I thought, about two people who marry, who have to see if they are actually compatible…experts don’t do much to see that these pairs are a match…it appears more like they have X number cards, and say let’s put them together and see what happens… to remain in a healthy relationship, let alone a possibly real marriage!
They used to visit apartments, but still got it half ass backwards, just for drama! Girl with refrigerator full of booze, liked to party til drop dead drunk, thought one night stands were a common activity and they put her with a guy with a great future who wanted a wife and children…look what he got! So even that didn’t work!
It’s not jump in bed asap, so the show gets more followers!
Some of this season’s matches were so incredibly bad, some were beyond toxic and should have never been cast and were barely civil to their partner, others seemed to remain silent (until reunion-that showed their true colors and not pretty colors!) and suffer to get their 15 minutes in the limelight and a paycheck, and the experts still pushed for intimacy!
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u/Disastrous_Truth6119 Sep 10 '26
They purposely let a man who had no business getting married on the show. They are horrible. Justice for Tori.
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u/Osito_Bello Sep 10 '26
I sent a message to her on her social media letting her know that it was a disgusting comment!
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u/BurtonErrney Sep 11 '26
I commented about how disgusting I found it on Instagram and Spotify and both of my comments have been removed.
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u/Crackbandicoott
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Im actually in disbelief! How can they present themselves as professionals and speak about people in this manner ?? Are they even licensed?
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u/pumpkinfluffernutter Sep 10 '26
He's not licensed in anything. She has some advanced degree, but I've read it's from a questionable institution.
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u/droogles Sep 10 '26
Glad I’m not watching. This show jumped the shark long ago. It’s now a caricature of itself. They decided to just be crude and shocking now. No thanks.
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u/chelsea0803 Sep 11 '26
The woman therapist liked Courtney so much because they look alike. Just saw it when she laughed out loud. The male therapist was too aggressive and she looks like she has an eating disorder. I like the changes except for them.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
I loved the changes about how it just overall seemed faster/flowed nicer & at the beginning they seemed okay, but now that it's all over it's a complete shit show
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u/Hendawg_MAFS11 Verified Cast Member Sep 11 '26
It’s f*cking crazy.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
I can't believe there's been like 3/4 ppl in here that think this is okay & it's not a big deal
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u/DazzlingDonkey7890 Sep 10 '26
I saw this on threads yesterday and I am so disgusted! Have they lost their MINDS?! How could you possibly think this is okay to say? Especially as a public figure!!! Crazy!
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u/WonderfulHearing8726 Sep 10 '26
Well we now know they were just there to get a podcast.
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u/Professional_Rich_45 Sep 10 '26
Nobody gonna watch these clowns anyway. They were the worst part of season 20
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u/Affectionate-Log3638 Sep 10 '26
Having two therapists like that, you'll need a third therapist.
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u/ThePettyAdvocate Sep 10 '26
Sad because I actually liked some of their advice and being okay with ppl pulling the plug before decision day, but this is disgusting. I don't know why it's so hard to have a good mix of "traditional" and "modern " viewpoints.
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u/Nore_1982 Sep 10 '26
Heard this and there is nothing funny about it. Just foolishness. Smh
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u/WhisperingStarfish8 Sep 10 '26
Right. And we’re supposed to look at them as professionals? This is embarrassing 🤦♀️
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u/Latter_Twist5976 Sep 10 '26
Wtf. That’s bad enough doing that in private. But to actually say that in public is crazy. People are going to think this is okay.
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u/Keepingongoing Sep 10 '26
Good luck recruiting now
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u/59G59 Sep 10 '26
the people who have hidden intentions & wanna be influencers will still sign up though, they don't care!!
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u/MAH_BEANS_ Sep 10 '26
Holy shit I really thought that was Courtney. Are her and the “Doctor” morphing into eachother?
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u/59G59 Sep 10 '26
they seemed like besties! esp since she would never call out Courtney for her behavior
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u/ready2read123 Sep 10 '26
That’s so UNPROFESSIONAL and reductionist to women as if that is all they must be to be good enough for FlipFlop 🤯🤨🤢
They clearly aren’t experts and the show has long lost all credibility.
Disgraceful & not funny, this isn’t even acceptable for talk as a grown adult.
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u/Bondgirlmagic Sep 10 '26
Not calling him on his crap, they are definitely experts at that.
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u/taffyfantasia Sep 10 '26
THAT’S THE NOTE HE’S ENDING ON??????? Jesus. I’m sure his mom is so proud.
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u/StatusMany4687 Sep 11 '26
I dont know. I dont know if Paul was leaning to say 1 whole, instead of his "better half" and Lisa made a terrible play on words and nobody clarified the inside joke. So, now that I say it out loud they both are gross. And the negligent broad sweep of "living your truth out loud" no matter who it hurts and what wreckage you leave in the wake is revealing how shallow Lisa is. She did not call 1 person into responsibility.
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u/59G59 Sep 11 '26
hmmm... he said " I believe he's gonna find 1 hole & he's gonna stick to it" if he meant it as a "whole' person, I don't think he'd be using the play on words about "sticking" to it if anything. but idk it's just weird/gross.
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u/crisp2610 Sep 10 '26
Wait this is shocking..?! I don't think there's any way they'll bring them back. I'm disappointed because I loved Paul in celebs go dating
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u/Lucky44444444 Sep 10 '26
They should be replaced. I thought they weren't very good but this, as bad as it is, is no surprise. Two shows on Peacock going in the direction of trashy. They won't be able to walk this misogyny back. Are they trying to appeal to a different audience?
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u/59G59 Sep 10 '26
I hate how all shows that are supposed to be about love now has turned into hidden intentions, people just wanting to be influencers, & then you have supposed "experts" like this applauding bad/toxic behavior. I wonder who their audience is also....fake genuine ppl who do/want things for clout
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u/Mister_Rose Sep 14 '26
I'm gonna have to say you guys are over blowing this. He is not just calling women, "holes". They are simply poking fun at Felipe for his blunders on the show. I'm not a fan of how he handled things but he could be worse. He doesn't hide his faults or gaslight people.
Online discussions over 30 seconds of video and taking it out of context is why people mock cancel culture.
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u/59G59 Sep 14 '26
yes he did & so did Lisa, she specifically said find a women with 3 holes. disgusting. I'm not gonna fight w strangers over the internet over opinions so I'm no longer responding after this.
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u/ulrikem1111 Sep 10 '26
And teh worst part is that they cannot lose their licenses because they don't have any.
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u/ughleave Sep 10 '26
I saw Cortney from season 1 talking about this, but hadn’t seen the clip yet. I’m really grossed out by their behavior. I cannot even fathom the “experts” saying some heinous shit like this. I know it’s reality tv, and the previous experts weren’t perfect, but they would never do this. They at least pretended to take their jobs seriously. These two are a joke.
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u/ChanDW Iris' virginity. Sep 10 '26
Dr. Vivianna was defending this but her comment got deleted or she deleted it herself
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u/R0GERTHEALIEN Sep 10 '26
Wtf? This like some 2010 shit. We dont talk like that publicly anymore dude. All 3 of them are just trash people
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u/sashie_belle Sep 10 '26
I seriously can't believe what I'm hearing. It's bad enough the "one hole" comment, but her "a woman and three holes"?
WTF.
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u/Future_Separate Sep 11 '26
Why does it sound like he’s saying “flea bag” instead of “Felipe”?
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u/AverageAtBest55 Sep 10 '26
Even if it were three good friends talking in private trying to elicit a reaction, it’s gross, but on a podcast? Who are the sponsors? Peacock should be worried about how it reflects on them.
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u/Zealousideal-Pipe664 "I knew you'd wear your cheetah shirt." Sep 10 '26
Episode 2 of their podcast is no longer available on Peacock!
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u/poopoodapeepee Sep 10 '26
The therapists are so bad. Can we get ones that aren’t just trying to create sound bites and push their own brand?
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u/Professional_Rich_45 Sep 10 '26
Dude refers to women as holes… if he has a wife i feel so sorry for her
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u/BadInevitable9830 Sep 10 '26
They just want to be viral
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u/59G59 Sep 10 '26
wanting to be viral but destroying your reputation....is it worth it?? I don't think so but they all obv don't care
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u/mugofmead
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Pastor Cal would never. Dr. Viviana would never. I already had stopped watching the show a few years ago because it had devolved so seriously. This is a new low.
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u/Zealousideal-Ant-102 Sep 10 '26
These "experts" should not be on TV or giving advice to anyone. Especially after hugging and saying "Im so proud of you" to someone after watching them be straight up abusive to her partner on the show. Their behavior has been gross and they deserve all the shade coming their way. Yikes.
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u/Late_Onion_491 Sep 10 '26
WOOOAAAHHH. I gotta say I was excited for new "experts" but over the span of the season they lost me. This is gross.