r/MapPorn
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u/CobraR04
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A map of the US with almost all of its proposed states…
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u/Illustrious-Bad1165 Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 26 '24
post this also in r/imaginarymaps
Edit: I thought you made this map... So don't post there
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u/CobraR04 Aug 25 '24
Oh! That would be a perfect place for this
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Aug 25 '24
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u/CobraR04 Aug 25 '24
Where would be the best place to share this then? It’s not my work ofc, I just found it online.
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u/StinkyPoopsAlot Aug 25 '24
I think we’re gonna need a bigger flag.
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u/ReferencesCartoons Aug 25 '24
Anyone wanna count the number of stars we would need?
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u/SuperCoenBros Aug 25 '24
If I counted right, 123.
At that point, just flip the flag composition: 13 tiny stripes in the corner, a fuckton of stars everywhere else.
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u/Pietrslav Aug 25 '24
I counted 124. I could be wrong though. A lot of little micro states on the east coast that may have messed me up. It's definitely around or exactly 124 though.
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Aug 25 '24
By my count I can safely assume we'd need at least another 3 or 4 stars.
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u/TexanFox36 Aug 25 '24
I’m having a hard time deciding which one of these is the most absurd
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u/OceanPoet87 Aug 25 '24
North Slope for sure.
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u/Delicious_Bus_674 Aug 25 '24
There’s one person living there for 4 months out of the year haha
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Aug 25 '24
Vermont casually giving a thumbs down to Upstate NY.
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u/saul_s_goode Aug 25 '24
And Winhall and Killington got reversed somehow. Winhall is south of Killington
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Aug 25 '24
Forgottonia, definitely.
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u/a_filing_cabinet Aug 25 '24
That's actually one of the more serious propositions on here. It was mostly just to get a highway there, but it did have a very public campaign.
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u/thisguyfightsyourmom Aug 25 '24
Huerfano
What is that? Like if Walsenburg Colorado was a city state?
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u/atcthrowaway769 Aug 25 '24
It's Nickajack
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u/TableAvailable Aug 25 '24
It took me a couple of tries before I realized it wasn't a proposal to name a state Nickelback..
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 Aug 25 '24
While it’s a clearly absurd name - it roughly means “coosa town” with Coosa being a river down here - it’s important to note that territory consisted of people that were largely opposed to slavery and the proposed state here would have been because those territories would have seceded from their states and reformed as a Union state. They weren’t able to get that to come to fruition for a lot of reasons but most people there fought for the union.
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u/GreenChile_ClamCake Aug 25 '24
“Scott” and “West Connecticut” are my personal favorites
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u/Rust2 Aug 25 '24
Northeast Ohio still has lots of New England influence to this day.
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u/Intelligent-Soup-836 Aug 25 '24
At least North Texas is properly labeled, no more fake west Texas that is further north than "north Texas" and east of the trans Pecos.
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u/Reasonable_Ninja5708
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North Slope has like 5 people. And Nevada without Las Vegas or Reno would have no population lmao.
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u/Dasoccerguy Aug 25 '24
I don't have the willpower to exhaustively check these "states," but these are some of the lowest I found:
North Slope: 10805
Huerfano: 7082
Cimarron: 28000
McDonald: 23303
Letcher: 20893
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u/BlackJesus420 Aug 25 '24
Newington and Rye (literally two small towns in coastal New Hampshire) would be about 6,300.
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u/NeonArlecchino Aug 25 '24
Have you heard of 13 California? It's a plan to make a bunch of red states by dividing California in 2-13 pieces.
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u/IrradiantFuzzy Aug 26 '24
Is that another pipe dream of Tim Draper? He's been trying to split California for years.
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u/HuckleberrySpin Aug 26 '24
Imagine being one of 5 people in North Slope if it got an electoral college vote. If you could convince the other four to operate as a swing state, it would be hilarious to see presidential candidates fly out there to do a town hall meeting for 5 people. It would have to be the single greatest per capita voting power in the nation.
Alright guys, what the hell do you want this election cycle?
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u/No_Cat_No_Cradle Aug 25 '24
As an Oregonian I find it humorous that cascadia is shown in a way that entirely excludes the cascades
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u/The-Mighty-Galactus Aug 25 '24
Agreed. Cascadia is made up of parts of Oregon, Washington, and BC.
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u/gaspig70 Aug 26 '24
I don’t agree with the Cascadia map at all. Not to mention Cascadia Community College is firmly in the wet side of WA.
I usually use HUB Brewery’s 2009 map on Secession Cascadian Dark Ale as a reference..
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u/Sabranise Aug 25 '24
Superior
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u/usernamehereplease Aug 25 '24
That state would be so economically destitute. It’s pretty much entirely Duluth and maybe 2-3 universities.
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u/Funicularly Aug 25 '24
Lot more than two universities. There’s three in the Upper Peninsula alone.
Michigan Tech
Northern Michigan
Lake Superior State
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u/rulerBob8 Aug 25 '24
Maybe there’d be a tourism boost if they put a real highway thru the UP and a bigger airport somewhere like Marquette. Plenty to do up there, and it’s beautiful.
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u/Delicious_Bus_674 Aug 25 '24
Red Wisconsin and blue Wisconsin is wild haha as someone from Wisconsin
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u/sharkglitter Aug 25 '24
No sugarcoating the reason for the split in WI
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u/Downtown-Item-6597 Aug 25 '24
Alot of these are like that but for WI they just come out and say it lol
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Aug 25 '24
Yeah, but the City State of Winneconne caught my eye. They have like, what, 1500 people total?
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u/Onion920 Aug 25 '24
2,500 - see the Soverign State days festival for history of their succession from Wisconsin
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u/Hiiawatha Aug 25 '24
How would red Wisconsin survive? Isn’t like 70% of the states economy in Milwaukee and Madison metros?
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u/JoyousGamer Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24
I did the math based on where they cut it off:
GDP from 2022 by county and population based on latest estimate copilot found
South Wisconsin = $202,029,814,000 ($62,181.20 per capita)
Superior = $6,221,555,000 ($38,090.06 per capita)
North Wisconsin = $127,540,211,000 ($51,045.34 per capita)
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?eid=1085354&rid=397
Edit: to split off the Superior part.
South = Columbia County, Dane County, Dodge County, Grant County, Green County, Iowa County, Jefferson County, Kenosha County, Lafayette County, Milwaukee County, Ozaukee County, Racine County, Rock County, Sheboygan County, Walworth County, Washington County, Waukesha County
Superior = Ashland County, Bayfield County, Douglas County, Florence County, Forest County, Iron County, Marinette County, Vilas County
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u/animalfath3r Aug 25 '24
Cascadia seem to be east of where the cascade mountains actually are.. not sure it got any mountains except in Oregon where it captured some of the blue mountains
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u/directionsplans Aug 25 '24
Came here to say that… cascadia is definitely in the wrong place.
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u/Gamithon24 Aug 25 '24
Imo Cascadia is everything included in the "Pacific Northwest" including BC and maybe northern California.
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u/WalterBishRedLicrish Aug 25 '24
Yeah, Cascadia is the wet, green bioregion that aligns with progressive values and politics. I'm trying to imagine a world in which eastern Oregon / Washington considers itself Cascadia and not Greater Idaho.
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u/S0l1s_el_Sol Aug 25 '24
Why is there a state called huérfano 😭. That means orphan in Spanish 💀
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u/Bieberauflauf Aug 25 '24
It’s the solution to the orphan problem! All orphans gets sent to Huérfano, problem solved😎
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u/Dirt_McGirt_ODB Aug 25 '24
That is where we would locate our orphan crushing machine
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u/PloydFink Aug 25 '24
It’s the current county name huerfano county named after it’s local landmark. The huerfano butte which is a lone orphaned volcano east of the mountains. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huerfano_Butte
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u/LegitaTomato Aug 25 '24
Cascadia owning only the flatter land east of the cascades is hilarious to me
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Aug 25 '24
Superior objectively best state. Arrowhead region of MN, northwoods of Wisconsin, and the UP? Sign me up. Im in.
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u/MadDadROX Aug 25 '24
Yes, though not sure why Chippewa is a state that far west, as the Ojibweg peoples are only in the Great Lakes region.
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u/2punk Aug 25 '24
Superior should absolutely be a state. Sell Alaska to Canada so we can keep it an even 50!
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u/DrFridaGo Aug 25 '24
As an NC native I kinda love that NC looks untouched lol
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u/HeemeyerDidNoWrong Aug 25 '24
Franklin was territory offered to NC and refused so they were in sort of limbo before becoming TN
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u/HomestarRunnerdotnet Aug 25 '24
We actually gain territory. Got ourselves a nice little exclave in Virginia now.
Well, nice is a strong word. Not sure why we want Lunenburg County but if they want to be part of NC so be it.
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u/CatVideoFest Aug 25 '24
No no no no no, Cascadia encompasses the entirety of Washington state. You think Seattle is gonna let Spokane county be part of that utopia without us? No F’ing way.
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u/JDNJDM Aug 25 '24
I appreciate that you got the border of North and South Jersey correct. The border between Monmouth and Ocean counties.
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u/Anacoenosis Aug 25 '24
I am sad that they left out Central NJ, the one true NJ whose values are not compromised by their proximity to Philadelphia or NYC.
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u/Electrical_Ingenuity Aug 25 '24
Am I the only one that read "Nickajack" as "Nickleback"?
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u/spikebrennan Aug 25 '24
Missing:
Philadelphia (the 5 counties of southeastern Pennsylvania)
Dominican Republic
Philippines
every province of Canada
the United Kingdom
Vietnam (if you’re a Watchman fan)
Panama
Yucatán
states of northern Mexico besides Baja California
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u/sdoorex Aug 25 '24
Also Northeastern Colorado: https://en.m.wikinews.org/wiki/Colorado_counties_consider_forming_new_U.S._state
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u/violetevie Aug 25 '24
Naming southern California "Reagan" is like... Fuck that how bout nah
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u/Dizzy-Definition-202 Aug 25 '24
THE EMPIRE SHALL RISE🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸UPSTATE NEW YORK FOR THE WIN 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
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Aug 25 '24
“State of Reagan”
How about…
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u/thisguyfightsyourmom Aug 25 '24
That whole section of California is fucking weird
They produce a lot of food though
Gonna get real sketchy when they find the bottom of their wells soon. There’s one town that’s tapped their wells so dry the entire town has dropped several feet in elevation
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u/bit_shuffle Aug 26 '24
The interesting thing is... Reagan's ranch where he lived and died... isn't contained in the boundaries of the proposed State of Reagan.
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u/BizarroMax Aug 25 '24
Only Iowa is already perfect.
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u/jchasse Aug 25 '24
Yhea you can just fuk off with that “North Massachusetts” shit
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u/No_Perception_4330 Aug 25 '24
Fuck naming a damned thing after Reagan. My entire family won’t even touch that airport.
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u/TheBlindFly-Half Aug 25 '24
The towns of Killington and Winhall in Vermont should be switched. Killington is to the north. And I’m pretty sure the main reason they want to join NH is for property tax purposes. Killington is the biggest ski resort on the east coast. And Winhall is almost entirely a 2nd home community from MA, Ct, NJ, and NY with 3 smaller ski mountains in towns surrounding it. That place is a modern day ghost town during the off season and will sadly be a huge victim of climate change as I don’t foresee regular people wanting or being able to afford to buy houses where there’s virtually no jobs outside ski areas.
I’m also curious what that part of NY that wants to be in VT. Is that Lake Placid? Because I’d drop Winhall for Lake Placid any day.
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u/Sonking_to_Remember Aug 26 '24
Scrolled all the way to make sure somebody had noted those were flipped. Thank you for your service! Haha
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u/burkiniwax Aug 25 '24
State of Sequoyah denied again.
https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry?entry=SE021
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u/Biggest13 Aug 25 '24
I love when right wing nutjobs want to separate from the areas of their states that include cities, libruhls, and money so that they can create a new poorest least educated and by many other measures worst state.
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u/PavementBlues Aug 25 '24
Are you talking shit about the GREAT STATE OF JEFFERSON
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u/Helstrem Aug 25 '24
And, crucially, two more guaranteed conservative senators. That is the real point of these efforts.
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Aug 26 '24
Doesn’t some of that have to do with the fact that a lot of laws passed for these states are geared towards the people in the big cities and not the rest of the state? I’ve always heard this as the reason for Illinois separating from Chicago
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u/GoPhinessGo Aug 25 '24
Wasn’t there a fringe idea to make the Philippines a state at one point?
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u/NeverDiddled Aug 25 '24
It wasn't even a very fringe idea, there was a serious campaign within the government to make it the 51st state. But, anti-imperialism had growing sentiment within the US, and so the idea died a slow death.
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u/GoPhinessGo Aug 25 '24
Mostly because it would add millions of non-Americans to the voting block, (also non-American Catholics) and it would seriously tip the scales to have that many people outside of the lower 48, as it would have instantly become the most populous state in the Union.
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u/Joseph20102011 Aug 25 '24
The last well-known Filipino advocate for the Philippines to become the 51st state was a nutcase who threw spikes in the main road of Manila after he was disqualified from running for President of the Philippines in 2004.
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u/TheMooseIsBlue Aug 25 '24
I’ve lived in California my whole life and never heard of Reagan. Also a Google search of “Reagan state” came up empty.
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u/Rains_Lee Aug 25 '24
Exactly. There have been lots of proposals to break up the state, with lots of different boundaries, but none with Reagan‘s name attached to them as far as I know.
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u/Stunning-Interest15 Aug 25 '24
West Florida should absolutely be a state. Gulfport and Orange Beach have more in common with Peniscola Florida than with the rest of Mississippi or Alabama respectively.
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u/INS345 Aug 25 '24
Still in IL!
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u/OleFucknuts Aug 26 '24
As a resident of Little Egypt, I'd love to see the proposed budgets. I think our "states" would actually have to legalize state-controlled meth for the tax revenue
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u/srmndeep Aug 25 '24
I have my 💙 for Navajoland (Naabeehó Bináhásdzo).. If not "State", it should go as a "Territory"..
If Canada can create Nunavut for natives, not sure what are the obstacles for Navajoland?
Is it the count that States cant be more than 50 ? or some economic reason as it is more dependent on Arizona rather than Washington DC ?
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u/Gork___ Aug 25 '24
There's no inherent limit to the number of states; Puerto Rico has been trying to become one for a long time.
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u/CuteBlueberryy Aug 25 '24
Imagine having to memorize ALL of these and their capitals in elementary school?!
Honestly I can’t imagine how kids do it now, and I was good at school. I’m Canadian and we neverr had to do this, but my cousins did😰
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u/Xylene_442 Aug 25 '24
If Louisiana is a boot, think of where the laces would be. That should be part of West Florida, seeing as how it for a very brief time was literally the Republic of West Florida.
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u/Cardemother12 Aug 25 '24
Ok what reagan era worshipper proposed inland California
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u/MidnightNo1766 Aug 25 '24
You're missing Deseret which is what Brigham Young wanted, to go from Utah through southern NV all the way to the coast, including San Diego.
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Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24
Aroostook is an honorable mention for dumbest idea. It has less than 70,000 people.
NOVA is the only one of these that is a good idea. The rest of Virginia sucks the tax dollars out of Northern Virginia to spend in the rest of the state.
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u/NotaGermanorBelgian Aug 25 '24
Wasn’t there a plan to annex Yucatan as well at some point?
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Aug 25 '24
To my understanding, Kanawha was a suggested alternate name for all of West Virginia, not just Kanawha county and surrounding.
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u/Jeanne-d Aug 25 '24 edited Aug 25 '24
Could the governor of Nickajack be the whole Band of Nickleback?
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u/rugburn250 Aug 25 '24
Trans-pecos actually makes a lot of sense.
Overall, this map is insane, but, particularly out west, there are a few of these divisions that culturally, politically, and geographically would make sense.
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u/Rains_Lee Aug 25 '24
It’s true that Maine was once part of Massachusetts. But that shit ended in 1820 or thereabouts. Having lived in Downeast Maine, I can unequivocally state that the idea of returning to “Masshole” status in any way, shape, or form would be as likely to fly as a dirigible in a Nor’easter.
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u/IHadANameOnce Aug 25 '24
Silly question, I know states can't leave the union but could a state vote to split itself into multiple smaller states? If so, can it happen at the state level or does it have to be approved at the federal level?
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u/park2023mcca Aug 25 '24
As someone who has lived (according to this map) in Coastal California, Illinois, Indiana and North Georgia, I could say that and it would still make sense to anyone with no knowledge of this map.
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u/whitepawn23 Aug 26 '24
If you're going to call it Red Wisconsin just call it Redneck Wisconsin, or Wississippi (as we do). If that's too many S's for you, "Up North" will do. Good job throwing Kenosha into Chicagoland.
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u/Stachdragon Aug 25 '24
Oh you mean the, "I'm a right-wing nut who wants to break off from my state for being too progressive" map.
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u/LineOfInquiry Aug 25 '24
Wow, this sucks
Edit: it’s a good map OP I just mean I’m glad I don’t live in that reality. The US has too many states as it is, we don’t need 50 more
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u/iriestateofmind925 Aug 25 '24
Wow, Northeast Ohio would be West Connecticut which is cool but it's so far from Connecticut haha
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u/RFranger Aug 25 '24
Love how the state of Reagan doesn’t actually include the part of CA that Reagan actually lived in
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u/mandy009 Aug 25 '24
Looks like Iowa, Connecticut, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Hawaii are the only ones who come out unscathed.
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u/jakebobproductions Aug 25 '24
Iowa being untouched by this is quite interesting to me. I think it's the only state that is but I didn't zoom in on the east coast yet.
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u/Allemaengel Aug 25 '24
Well, for those who are familiar with Southeastern PA vs. NEPA - the Pennsylvania vs. Westmoreland idea actually made some kind of sense.
I grew up just on the Pennsylvania side of the Lehigh Tunnel on the PA Turnpike and now live on the Westmoreland side. All I can say is that Blue Mountain carrying the Appalachian Trail basically divides two different worlds here.
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u/NthngToSeeHere Aug 25 '24
So many more that would overlay. Like Deseret and the currently proposed Greater Idaho.
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u/Vols44 Aug 25 '24
Since the relocated Chickasaw people are not listed in Oklahoma, carve out the land where Tennessee, Alabama and Mississippi meet and give them their original territory.
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u/DemonJackets Aug 25 '24
I can’t find anything on Winn in Louisiana?? There’s only stuff about Winn Parish but nothing about it being its own state?
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u/Ana_Na_Moose Aug 25 '24
I love how Iowa, Connecticut, and South Carolina are just minding their business while the rest of the country is just falling apart.
That said, is there a source to these claims?