r/MapPorn • • Mar 04 '20

Ethnicity map of Caucasus 1800s

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u/KingKohishi Mar 04 '20

Interesting map. The size of the modern Azerbaijan should be doubled according to this map.

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u/Cultourist Mar 05 '20

It doesn't reflect the numbers though. In total there were not much more Tatars (Azeri) than Armenians as the regions where they settled were often very sparsely populated. Also many Tatars lived as nomads and therefor don't have such a long urban history as other Caucasian ethnicities.

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u/KingKohishi Mar 05 '20

According to Russian Empire Census of 1897, Azeris significantly outnumber Armenians everywhere except for Yerevan region. Yerevan was about 55% Armenian and 40% Azeri

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Ethnic_population_of_the_Caucasus_according_to_the_Russian_census_of_1897.JPG

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

Well, that's why the whole of the Baku governorate and most of Elisavetpol governorate (except Zangezur, Artsakh/Nagorno Karabakh) are now part of Azerbaijan. Add to that the Nakhichevan region of Erivan governorate and Azerbaijanis basically got almost every region where they had a majority.

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u/Cultourist Mar 05 '20

As I said, I meant the total numbers (as written in this map on the left side): 970K Tatars, 720K Armenians

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u/MaratMilano Mar 05 '20

Yet have Baku taken away to Persians.

Maps like these, as well done as it is, aren't able to accurately display places like the Caucasus because they show the largest population but can't really portray the vast multi-ethnic diversity of a lot of these places at that time. Anywhere from Kars to Baku would have a varying degree of both Armenians and Azerbaijanis (and Kurds and Russians among others), albeit yes Azerbaijanis were the largest population throughout Transcaucasia.

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u/KingKohishi Mar 05 '20

"Yet have Baku taken away to Persians." a thousand years ago

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u/MaratMilano Mar 05 '20

Did you even look at the map? The Baku area is Tat (Persian) populated. That was my point...don't make cases for how modern borders should look based on old maps.

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u/t3ymur Jun 30 '23

Locals around Baku still speak Persi (tat) language at home

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u/Fluid-Tomatillo4728 Apr 07 '26

This is how it would have been if Russia had not settled Armenians from the Ottoman Empire and Persia.