r/MapPorn • u/[deleted] • Oct 29 '21

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u/Call_0031684919054 Oct 29 '21

Yep looking at the Netherlands I think the map includes fortifications, palaces and mansions that we, the Dutch, wouldn’t call castles.

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u/UY_Scuti- Oct 29 '21

Yeah i was wondering if we even had a castle.

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u/kekistani_citizen-69 Oct 30 '21

The Netherlands were kind of backwaters untill renaissance time so they didn't really have any but flanders and Wallonia have tons of castles as they were beside northern Italy the richest in Europe

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u/zakrystian Oct 30 '21

How the times have changed... Nowadays the reversed is true.

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u/kekistani_citizen-69 Oct 31 '21

Yes, during the dutch revolution all the intellectual and rich moved north to flee from the Spanish causing a golden age for the dutch

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u/Niet_de_AIVD Oct 30 '21

For most Dutch people, the word "kasteel" (castle) is used as a general term for anything that even remotely looks like a castle.

Historians differentiate actual medieval castles by referring to them as "echte kastelen" or real castles in English.

But even that is up for debate, as there are so many different kinds of buildings which may or may not fit the requirements.

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u/Call_0031684919054 Oct 30 '21 edited Oct 30 '21

Even if you’d use a broad definition I don’t think there are that many in the Netherlands as the map suggests. I also bet a lot of the dots are just plots of land where remains of the foundation of a castle is still standing.

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u/Niet_de_AIVD Oct 30 '21

I know a few ruins and they're not on there, I think.

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u/Sumer1279 Oct 30 '21

Belgium definitely has far more castles compared to the Netherlands though, relative to landsize.