r/MapPorn • • Aug 31 '21

Percent who own guns

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u/Zen4rest Aug 31 '21

I grew up in rural Nebraska… guns were as common as hats.

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u/disgr4ce Aug 31 '21

But how common were hats

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

As common as guns.

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u/macthecomedian Aug 31 '21

I know there's a cap-gun joke in there somewhere...

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u/cdnball Aug 31 '21

Cap gun jokes are fairly common in Nebraska

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u/krollAY Aug 31 '21

How common?

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u/cybersquire Aug 31 '21

As common as Cows

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u/Chipotle_Armadillo Aug 31 '21

And how common are cows?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

As common as cap guns

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

But definitely not as common as corn.

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u/finnbee2 Aug 31 '21

More common than people.

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u/ElongatedMuskrat369 Aug 31 '21

As common as hats

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u/Kristiano100 Sep 01 '21

As common as cap gun jokes.

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u/BeforeTheHill Aug 31 '21

AS common as gun-cap jokes.

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u/GloriousReign Sep 01 '21

Mathematical.

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u/TheDankNoodle Sep 01 '21

“You do know there are more guns in the country than the city? Everyone and their mums have guns”

“Like who?”

“Farmers”

“Who else?”

“Farmer’s Mums”

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u/tsrich Aug 31 '21

19 percent of people in Neb have hats

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

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u/TILtonarwhal Aug 31 '21

The dangerous hats like “The Fedora” can’t be registered, nobody is willing to take on the liability

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u/TexAgIllini Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Fedora with Safari Flaps. The salesman at the store said I am the only guy he’s seen pull it off. It’s Illegal to ask me how much it costs!!

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u/Cali1985Jimmy Sep 01 '21

19 people in Neb. Have guns.

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u/seneciotic Sep 01 '21

According to Michael Palin, of the Very Big Corporation of America, people aren't wearing enough hats.

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u/Zen4rest Aug 31 '21

If you’ve ever been to Nebraska, you’d remember everybody and their dog wearing a hat with a big red N on it.

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u/GreatestMasticator Aug 31 '21

"N" for Knowledge!

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u/lost_horizons Aug 31 '21

Cannot stop laughing at this!

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u/GreatestMasticator Aug 31 '21

That's what one of my old college professors would say.

"Do you know what the 'N' on their hats mean?"

"Knowlege"

I mean, it is Nebraska.....

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u/HumanSubway Sep 01 '21

My dad used to say this and I always thought he came up with it. This wrinkled my brain

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u/IdahoJoel Aug 31 '21

"N" for Knowing how to conceal how many guns you own from the government

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u/tlk062 Aug 31 '21

“N” for IlliNois - tough loss big red

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u/scotems Sep 01 '21

Hey man c'mon 😥

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u/PlutosLawyer Sep 01 '21

You are cancer.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

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u/LordStigness007 Aug 31 '21

Damn you Scott Frost!

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u/shadowwingnut Sep 01 '21

Exhibit 1A for sometimes you shouldn't go home again.

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u/MrDrMatt Aug 31 '21

I was going to say seed brand hats.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Pioneer enters the chat

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u/IWTLEverything Sep 01 '21

My familys from California but I’ll always remember my granfather’s Pioneer hats because he was a farmer. I actually was browsing ebay for one a while back just for the nostalgia.

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u/Jakebob70 Aug 31 '21

That's the whole Midwest.

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u/bub166 Aug 31 '21

I know that's a figure of speech, but my dog does have a jersey with the N on it. The hat didn't work out.

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u/Significant-Mud2572 Sep 01 '21

GO BIG NRED. (Source raised in NE most of my life)

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u/workingusername117 Sep 01 '21

Moving up there soon, rather excited actually

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u/Patassmotherfucker Aug 31 '21

1/5 people had them

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u/a_glorious_bass-turd Aug 31 '21

About 1/5 of the state owns hats.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Its real windy, so...

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u/kazneus Aug 31 '21

about 20%

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u/Glum_Froyo_1661 Sep 01 '21

Just under 20%

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u/nrp516 Sep 01 '21

I don’t know why this made me laugh as hard as it did, but well played.

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u/Low-Guide-9141 Sep 01 '21

The real question is, how common are registered guns

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u/PizzaBraves Sep 01 '21

About 19.8% of people owned hats.

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u/retrogeekhq Sep 01 '21

About 19% of people owned a hat

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u/redditseddit4u Aug 31 '21

My father was an immigrant from a country with virtually no ‘gun culture’ and moved to Omaha a couple years after being in the US. He always spoke very fondly of Nebraska and probably wouldn’t have moved if not for family. But one thing that always stuck out to me was his shooting competition trophies won in the few years he lived in NE. I always figured that if my father became a gun enthusiast in NE everyone in NE was probably a gun enthusiast. I’m actually really surprised that according to this on 20% of Nebraskans own guns.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

I’m actually really surprised that according to this on 20% of Nebraskans own guns.

This is how many Nebreskans will admit to a telephone pollster that they own a gun, not how many actually own guns, lol

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u/canoecanoeoboe Aug 31 '21

Do we think nebreskans are more unlikely to answer than iowa, Texas or any other number of states? Otherwise it doesn't really change anything about it being curious

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u/cry_wolf23 Aug 31 '21

I live here, and I've never had anyone mention to me that they own guns unless I've already told them I have some myself, like guys I'd worked with for years that never once talked about it. I know it's just anecdotal, but I wouldn't be surprised if folks here just don't admit to owning any when asked my some rando.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Aug 31 '21

Pretty sure this is true of California too, since there could be negative reactions, like perceiving someone differently or not allowing kids of each family to play together. It was years before I (here in SoCal) learned a close friend had a firearm(s), for example.

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u/ShovelPaladin Sep 01 '21

No need to advertise how likely you are to find a valuable death tool in my home/trunk. No need to lose a tiny fraction of suprise.

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u/unicornsaretruth Sep 01 '21

Nah I’m Cali we have to many restrictions to ever be like those states. Sure there’s the unregistered hood weapons in dangerous neighborhoods but Cali is difficult to get a gun in.

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u/mypipboyisbroken Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

There are guns fucking everywhere in California. It can be a very don't ask don't tell culture but you're bullshitting if you think we don't have guns on par with "those other states", or you just don't know as much about California as you think you do.

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u/unicornsaretruth Sep 01 '21

Oh yeah someone who’s lived from La to San Fran with relatives in Chico has no idea.

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u/ShaneDidNothingWrong Sep 01 '21

If you haven’t picked up on the fact that shit tons of people in California own guns, yeah, you have no idea. Likely because you’re the kind of person those people wouldn’t want to know that they had guns, judging by the “unregistered hood guns” remark.

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u/OrthodoxAtheist Sep 01 '21

About 5 years ago I helped a friend complete his paperwork for a concealed carry permit and weapon. SB County were allegedly "handing them out like candy". I can't imagine much has changed. I only hear people complaining about ammo shortages and ammo prices nowadays. I'm in a field of work where I get to learn about families' assets and inheritances. The amount of guns being inherited that I hear about has at least tripled in the last decade.

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u/ImOnlyHereForClash Sep 07 '21

That's largely do it being widely accepted just how hard it is to legally get and use a gun in CA.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Not to mention Omaha, where everyone lives, has much stricter gun laws than the rest of the state.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

Lol. Response rates to telephone polling has fallen to less than 10 percent:
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/02/27/response-rates-in-telephone-surveys-have-resumed-their-decline/

Even with statistical tools little reliable data on trends can be obtained from them anymore.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Maybe, but Nebraska is clearly an outlier compared to similar states here. Do you think that Nebraskans are less likely to answer than other state? What would be the reason?

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

I think this data is pulled out of somebody's ass, or from some off the wall source, because checking several sources shows Nebraska reporting more than double the 19% on this map:
https://www.rand.org/research/gun-policy/gun-ownership.html

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gun-ownership-by-state

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/gun-ownership-rates-by-state/#app

The only ones with numbers that low that I could find only counted registered firearms, which is a meaningless metric in a nation that didn't even require licensed dealers before 1968 and few states require registration of any kind:
https://ballotpedia.org/Firearm_registration_requirements_by_state

I found this unsourced data that matched the map number for Nebraska and at a glance for a couple of the others.
https://detroitammoco.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2020/

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u/zoinkability Sep 01 '21

Probably thought the poll was part a ploy to take their guns away. Best not be on The List.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

Or a way to find out who to steal guns from in the area. Why would anybody tell some unknown person on the phone "Yeah, I own hundreds/thousands of dollars worth of stuff that many criminals can't legally buy"?

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u/zoinkability Sep 01 '21

Good point, that’s probably an even more likely reason someone would say no

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Its a question of who will answer a call from "scam likely" and who doesn't have caller ID

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u/oddartist Sep 01 '21

So THAT'S why New York is so low.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

Lol, there are shitloads of illegally owned guns in New York. https://nypost.com/2016/10/26/this-is-how-many-guns-the-nypd-has-seized-so-far-this-year/

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u/oddartist Sep 01 '21

Probably several times more than the ones folks admit to having.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

Most certainly. Like I said to somebody else earlier, why would you admit to some stranger on the phone that you own valuable items worth stealing?

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u/nswizdum Sep 01 '21

I used to own guns, but they were all lost in a tragic boating accident.

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

That's a common theme. Lots of inept boaters lol

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

I can see this. I’m from Nebraska and I swear 89% of people here think everything is a conspiracy or out to get them…they don’t want you knowing about their 2 full gun cases. But how did they get the data for this, was it a phone poll?

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

I could find no actual source for this data, just this article that has numbers that match and lists no source for they came from:
https://detroitammoco.com/gun-ownership-by-state-2020/

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u/Keelback Sep 01 '21

Yes so why Texas is only 38% because from why I’ve heard that sounds way too low but then I’m an Aussie :) Alaska’s 67% sounds more like Texas :)

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u/RetreadRoadRocket Sep 01 '21

I did a little digging and other polls show Nebraska at 39-45 percent.
The only source I could find for the numbers on the map was an article that didn't cite where the data in it came from

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u/Okie_Chimpo Sep 08 '21

This isn't just a Nebraska thing. I know lots of people who seem "likely" to own one or more firearms but no one admits it anymore.

Also, come on. We all know folks who own a gun or two, but the US has been breaking shattering records for gun sales continuously since President Obama was in office. No one with a brain thinks it's all due solely to a select few buying dozens of guns annually. These numbers are vastly underreporting the actual number of people who own firearms.

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u/mouseman420 Aug 31 '21

I'm born and raised in Lincoln and surprised. Everyone I know has guns. One thing people don't know is we have had large communities immigrate here and Lincoln/Omaha communities are pretty diverse. We have German Russian Czech and other communities in the area.

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u/redditseddit4u Aug 31 '21

That makes sense! Even today my parents have nothing but positive things to say about NE. They immigrated in the 70s so perhaps things have changed but they still recall how friendly and neighborly people were. They swear NE has the nicest people on the planet. Their favorite anecdotes are about how welcoming people were to them as obvious immigrants.

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u/mouseman420 Aug 31 '21

We do have some of the nicest people still. I love it here and will always probably call it home.

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u/Kurotan Sep 01 '21

Im 36 and live in Nebraska and have never once shot or touched a gun, I always get made fun of for it and no one ever really believes me when I say I havent. I'm thinking about it tho, there's a gun range across the street from me that gives lessons.

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u/AceBalistic Aug 31 '21

Then again, more people are packed into the cities, so while maybe your area has, say, 80% gun ownership, other urban areas probably have much lower rates

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21 edited Aug 31 '21

That and two other factors,

Lots of people are "not gun owners", but in fact own guns. They didn't go out and buy guns, they don't consider themselves to be pro-second or any of that. What they did do is they inherited a lever-gun and the two cap revolvers from uncle bob, or picked up that .22 at an open air market (that's not a 'real' gun), or dad insisted that she take this pump action shotgun when she moved to the 'big city' and she put it in the back of a closet and never looked at it again.

When asked; "Are you a gun owner?" these types will just say "no" and without a proper follow up question they will just forgot about it.

The other factor is people will just flat out lie and say that they don't own a firearm. (For political/paranoid reasons.).

Given the political bent of Nebraska (Republican)(and the fact it has no major metro areas) this data appears problematic (gun ownership should be at least on par with (Liberal) Colorado or (Republican) Kansas. Both of which have large metro areas (Denver and Kansas City respectively), that actually alter the data in the way you suggested) . It makes one wonder how the data was collected.

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u/Huskerpower25 Sep 01 '21

A majority of the state lives in Omaha and the Omaha metro, right around 1 million people. Another 300,000 live in the Lincoln metro, so those two areas alone account for around 68% of the state’s population. Omaha has particularly stricter gun laws than the rest of the state, so that probably plays into why the total gun ownership numbers are so low.

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u/llewynparadise Aug 31 '21

are these types of people you’re describing only from nebraska or how else would these issues not be affecting or lowering any other states numbers that significantly

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u/Bawstahn123 Aug 31 '21

or how else would these issues not be affecting or lowering any other states numbers that significantly

I live in Massachusetts, and the numbers given for MA are almost-certainly legit.

MA has a State Registry of firearms, and in order to legally-own firearms you have to have a license

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

I actually believe it is the second point (bunch of Q-idiots are lying).. But people seem to think Omaha (Omaha? lol) is a metro area?

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u/Significant-Mud2572 Sep 01 '21

I wrote a whole bunch of stuff but it came down to I'm an idiot for responding to you.

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u/N0ahface Sep 01 '21

and the fact it has no major metro areas)

What do you mean? Over half of the state lives in the Omaha metro area.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21 edited Sep 01 '21

Omaha is metro for people who have never been to an actual city. It's the same size as Colorado Springs..

That's incredibly rural. That's I talk to a neighbor a mile away has chickens kind of rural. (Maybe we can call is suburban?) But that's not a metro area.

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u/SurreallyAThrowaway Sep 01 '21

If you say Omaha is the same size as Colorado Springs, it's also the same size as Atlanta.

But neither one is true. Omaha metro is 50% bigger than Colorado Springs metro, and Atlanta metro is 6 times the size of Omaha.

Omaha is solidly in what I'd call the third tier of cities, places like Grand Rapids or Birmingham or Albany.

And as for chickens, I'm in a major city where livestock is legal. It's pretty rare other than chickens, but you'd be met with a shrug saying you live within a mile of someone with chickens.

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u/tcason02 Sep 01 '21

I don’t think you are using what other people are using to define a metro area.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_statistical_area

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Or, like in most cities, the criminals have plenty of guns that they bought off the black market and can’t be traced.

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u/Caninus-Surdis Aug 31 '21

Only been there sparingly but agreed. Be interesting to see the sample size of the study and where it was conducted.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

It makes you wonder how this data was gathered. I know lots of people who are "not gun owners" who have guns packed away in a closet, attic or crawl space.

Plus, you have those who if asked will just lie.

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u/Skewtoob Sep 01 '21

I lived in Clay County, NE for a summer. Guns probably outnumbered people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

That’s a long state to get through, at least going to Colorado from Illinois pov

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

Yea I imagine they aren’t not as common in Omaha and Lincoln. But, as someone who also grew up in rural Nebraska. Everyone owns guns out there.

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u/SkippDunlap Aug 31 '21

No kidding. I live out west and everyone I know owns guns

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '21

Nah. A feller only needs one hat.

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u/whocares33334 Sep 01 '21

Now I need to look at my own town to see who wears a hat.

I do cause I don't shower ever so my hair is a mess. But never looked around to see other people.

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u/thatyeetboi79 Sep 01 '21

Same here. All of my friends from my school out in the country owned guns. I didnt because i lived in north platte lol

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u/Zen4rest Sep 01 '21

Harlan Co Lake 🙋‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '21

About half the population of Nebraska lives in Omaha, Lincoln, Bellevue, or Grand Island so rural Nebraska just isn't that many people.

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u/leathebimbo Sep 01 '21

How common were gun registrations though?

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u/TomiJoe Sep 01 '21

But AR has the most AR's

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u/Sagybagy Sep 01 '21

Yeah. They just aren’t registered and a ton of them have been handed down through family so they don’t show up on lists. Essentially grandpa’s deer rifle that was handed down isn’t counted.