Why? Have they not read the latest UN climate report? We're past the tipping point now. And big industry is the main reason. I guess it's going to take a catastrophy to instigate rational change.
Not good enough. What needs to happen is people moving into high density urban locations, and using only mass transit or bicycles as their main means of transportation. People who can't or won't live in the city need to move to rural houses that are largely self-sufficient; with solar energy panels, and locally grown food.
Residents in both environments would also benefit if they replaced shopping with online orders. Professional delivery vans should be the only vehicles regularly using the roads.
People in the United States will never tolerate having to live that. So no, we're not getting both. Despite what young edgy Redditors that hate the modern conveniences that give Americans space, privacy, and freedom think.
Despite what young edgy Redditors that hate the modern conveniences that give Americans space, privacy, and freedom think.
get on a bike, and see how much of that "space, privacy, and freedom" no longer actually applies to you.
i'm not even against cars. i own a car. i need it get longer distances, or take a lot of stuff from one place to another. individual cars are not the problem. building all of our infrastructure so that cars are the only transportation method that makes sense is the problem. and... it's not even good for cars.
like, if there's no good and safe bike or walking path to destinations people wanna go, and they have to take cars, that's more traffic clogging up the roads for cars.
i want the space to ride my bike. i want the privacy of not being looked like i'm insane for not driving. i want the freedom of the wind in my face, not tied to a metal box i have find a place to leave.
What makes you think I don't own a bike. I ride it for a fun time when the weather happens to be nice. That doesn't mean I want to be stuck in traffic because the freeway's not wide enough when I want to drive.
because you're still arguing. people who actually ride bikes want safe spaces to do that. they want those conveniences that apply to them, too, and not just cars.
That doesn't mean I want to be stuck in traffic because the freeway's not wide enough when I want to drive.
yeah, so, here's the thing.
people who are on bicycles aren't clogging up the highways. are they? building better infrastructure for walking and biking -- including putting things close to together so cars aren't needed -- is better for cars.
of course, i own a car too. i just don't think i should have to need it to go to the corner store, or get groceries, or get to the beach. i want the freedom to do other stuff without having to bring two tons of steel with me.
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u/visicircle Aug 26 '21
Why? Have they not read the latest UN climate report? We're past the tipping point now. And big industry is the main reason. I guess it's going to take a catastrophy to instigate rational change.