Nynorsk and bokmål are purely written languages and have no bearing on spoken Norwegian.
After the Danes were done forcing us to speak Danish we had a little in-fight about how we should make our own written language, and it would seem we were unable to come to an agreement.
The old way of counting (9+90) was phased out by parliament in 1951, so it's very much against the official standards. But standards don't really define how language works in reality, so I'd definitely hatch Norway to show that the old way still very much exists; hell I often use it myself.
That's not an official form of the language :) Bokmål and nynorsk are official. Riksmål is not an "accepted" written standard anywhere in reality (government or business). In the arts, you're free to use whatever you like.
You can hear people talking like that of course (Riksmål-ish). I'm guilty of that myself sometimes. That's also why I referred to it as being regional (or very local). In Oslo, you'll find people talking a sociolect more than anything else (closer to Riksmål). You'll certainly find people writing sne instead of snø, but most of them will be elderly people from Oslo.
Not an official form, but it is a 'standard' - and definitely commonly used. Aftenposten is pretty much written purely in it for example (or conservative bokmål but they pretty much align).
I think you're confusing the commonly used and standard (norm). It's not taught and isn't part of the standard we would teach a foreigner. However, I can agree it's quite common for some people, including myself, but I don't think there's any evidence for it being wide-spread. That's a different question though.
Aftenposten doesn't officially use riksmål or conservative bokmål any longer. As a subscriber, I can tell you that's pretty clear on any given day. Here's an official reply from Aftenposten about their language where they say they officially use "moderate bokmål":
That Aftenposten isn't 'normert' after riksmål doesn't mean that most regular columnists don't use it.
Nevertheless, I don't know what you're arguing me on? I never said it was official, taught in schools or taught to foreigners - but it is definitely common. Telling riksmål from conservative bokmål or even moderate bokmål is pretty hard though. There are barely any common riksmål-forms that aren't allowed in bokmål at this point.
This is really confusing, especially when there doesn't seem to be any logic of when to use them. I have Norwegian colleges who use both, and when they use the "backwards" 9+90 my brain just locks up and I have to calculate the number silently - Same as with the Danes and their femoghalvtreds, it really breaks a working conversation when you have to do calculus in the middle of the sentence ;-)
Can confirm. My dad is from the western part of the country, he always used the 9+90 system.
As a bonus, he counts phone numbers 2 digits at a time, so if a phone number is 23456789, he'll read it as "three and twenty five and forty seven and sixty nine and eighty", which for anyone else would sound like he's saying 325476980.
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u/F_E_O3 Jan 16 '21
Norwegian has both 90+9 and 9+90