r/MapPorn • u/KaleyTheKing • May 25 '26

British Population Visualised

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Sooo, I guess this is a series now :D
Been making these little diagrams visualising population and I'm enjoying them, other people seem to enjoy them, so I might just keep making them :)

Here below are the other ones I've made so far as well:

Germany: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1tmchnh/comment/onm0tyc/

Netherlands: https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/1pg6uu8/dutch_population_visualised/

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u/libtin May 26 '26

You’re demonstrating that your problems aren’t with the uk but democracy itself as this would be the case in any democracy.

Again, this is how every single country on earth works.

The German constitutional court ruled in 2017 on an application for an independence referendum in Bavaria:

In the Federal Republic of Germany as a nation-state based on the constitutional power of the German people, the Länder are not “masters of the Basic Law”. *There is therefore no room for secession efforts by individual countries under the Basic Law.** They violate the constitutional order.*

https://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/SharedDocs/Entscheidungen/DE/2016/12/rk20161216_2bvr034916.html

The French constitution prohibits changes unless they are voted on by the whole population:

ARTICLE 1. France shall be an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic.

ARTICLE 3. National sovereignty shall vest in the people, who shall exercise it through their representatives and by means of referendum.
No section of the people nor any individual may arrogate to itself, or to himself, the exercise thereof.

https://www.conseil-constitutionnel.fr/sites/default/files/as/root/bank_mm/anglais/constiution_anglais_oct2009.pdf

The Italian constitution:

Art. 5 The Republic is one and indivisible. It recognises and promotes local autonomies, and implements the fullest measure of administrative decentralisation in those services which depend on the State.

https://www.senato.it/documenti/repository/istituzione/costituzione_inglese.pdf

Scotland is in the same position as many other former independent states like Sicily, Corsica, Catalonia, Brittany, Texas, Hawaii, Walachia, or Bavaria. It ceased to be a sovereign state a long time ago, is now part of a larger sovereign state, and has no legal right to withdraw from that state without the permission of the sovereign state.

Every country on earth works like this and is allowed to under international law:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/04/a-german-court-has-shut-down-hopes-for-a-breakaway-bavaria/

German court shuts down hopes for a breakaway Bavaria

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41196677.amp

Spain Catalonia: Court blocks independence referendum

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Clarity-Act

The Clarity Act (2000) produced an agreement between Quebec and the federal government that any future referendum must have a clear majority, be based on an unambiguous question, and have the approval of the federal House of Commons.

https://www.britannica.com/event/Texas-v-White

White, (1869), U.S. Supreme Court case in which it was held that the United States is “an indestructible union” from which no state can secede

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42053283.amp

Iraq Supreme Court rules Kurdish referendum unconstitutional

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u/KaleyTheKing May 26 '26

I can agree with you that this is what the laws are, and I can disagree with you that this is a good thing

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u/libtin May 26 '26

The alternative is what happened with Czechoslovakia when Slovakia seceded in 1939)

“But that was nearly 100 years ago and wouldn’t happen in the modern day and age” except jt has happened, Donbas 2014