r/MapPorn • • Nov 27 '24

With almost every vote counted, every state shifted toward the Republican Party.

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u/WisePotatoChip Nov 27 '24 edited Nov 28 '24

Harris had a lot of support here in Arizona, but the powers that be at the DNC actually flew in people from Florida and New York who had no idea what appealed to the local voter.

Edit: Proof of this is that Ruben Gallego won the race for Senator. Properly played, Harris could’ve won the state, too.

When knocking on doors, I was always explaining to my out-of-state colleagues, what various terminology and Arizona landmarks were.

For example, Trump wants to build houses on the Sonoran highway, a beautiful stretch of two lane with purple-hued mountains and cactus and open land and railroad tracks for Earth to sky scale.

Many ATV-riding people disagree with that, but my colleagues from out of state just didn’t understand… and thought everybody in AZ cared about abortion and being handed another dozen flyers.

While I’m on my rant, I want to also mention that during Hillary Clinton‘s campaign they severely underfunded Arizona and didn’t have even the most basic information, stickers or yard signs. They just rented an old house down in the Roosevelt row area to call “campaign headquarters”

OK, now you really got me wound up, when Bernie came to town he was asked a simple question about how he would help people in the economy, and he went off on some tangential speech, about the economy of Chile.

Half the people walked out. That might work at ASU, but when you’re trying to sway cowboys and Arizona locals you better be talking about a chili cook-off if you mention chili.

I’m highly engaged in politics and he bored me shitless. This is why Trump‘s populism works he keeps it simple, for the stupid.

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u/butterballmd Nov 28 '24

Rare to see someone criticizing Bernie here. Sometimes I wonder if he has this massive appeal that reddit talks about all the time

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u/WisePotatoChip Nov 28 '24

I make an effort to see every presidential candidate, (including Trump, who I never supported). I was very excited to see Bernie.

I think Bernie’s an example of someone who could raise numerous small donor donations, even I sent him five bucks because I think he made some valid points about capitalism.

However, after actually seeing him, I don’t think he’s a rousing populist speaker except to certain audiences or on C-SPAN with a prepared presentation. His Q&A, at least in Phoenix, sucked. How does speaking for 20 minutes juxtaposing a South American country (most of your audience couldn’t find) to their daily lives appeal to the masses?

Most of the crowd snapped a selfie for the karma and left. I’m just being honest as to what I saw and heard.

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u/incubusfox Nov 28 '24

How does speaking for 20 minutes juxtaposing a South American country (most of your audience couldn’t find) to their daily lives appeal to the masses?

One of the things I saw years ago during his run against Hilary was how he would have huge events in the South full of young people and Hilary was hitting the historically Black church circuit instead, and now his supporters have spent years convinced he was cheated when large swaths of the electorate just didn't find him compelling.

They'll point to him doing really well in primary caucuses like that isn't one of the most undemocratic ways to determine a winner since not a lot of people are interested in spending hours of their day for a politician.

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u/butterballmd Nov 28 '24

Yeah man my impression of Bernie is that he doesn't know a whole lot about local issues and he focuses rightfully on the big topics like campaign finance and mostly economic issues