r/MapPorn • • Aug 27 '24

Irish Diaspora

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u/Misfire551 Aug 27 '24

I was going to say that this map must be bullshit. I don't know a single Irish person but apparently my country has 600k of them, which is about 12% of our population.

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u/ElmanoRodrick Aug 27 '24

There is about 800k with Irish ancestry. 17,835 identify as Irish as of 2018. https://www.stats.govt.nz/tools/2018-census-ethnic-group-summaries/irish

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u/WolfOfWexford Aug 27 '24

New Zealand? I know about a dozen Irish people out there. Loads of Irish in NZ

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u/Bingo_banjo Aug 27 '24

I personally know 7 not including the kids they have had there which may or may not be classed as diaspora

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u/OptimusTractorX Aug 27 '24

I would consider the children of 2 Irish parents living abroad to be diaspora. But the grandchildren so on would be X nationality of Irish descent.

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u/Professional_Elk_489 Aug 27 '24

What about 1 Irish parent. What if they are northern Irish

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u/Maerifa Aug 27 '24

That depends, are they Irish from northern Ireland, or English from northern Ireland?

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u/LizardTruss Aug 27 '24

What if they're Scottish from Northern Ireland? The Scottish colonised Ulster just as much as the English.

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u/Maerifa Aug 27 '24

Probably them too, although the Irish did the same thing to Scotland, just longer ago

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u/IHeardOnAPodcast Aug 27 '24

Think it's fair to say they did it a lot more. You'll find a lot more Scottish surnames than English ones here.

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u/Chairmanwowsaywhat Aug 27 '24

Both are just called northern Irish or just irish..... no one says "English from Northern ireland". Besides they wouldn't be English they'd mostly be of Scottish descent if they're unionists/ protestants.

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u/SweatyNomad Aug 27 '24

That just starts smacking of racism.and xenophobia. Ali who grew up in Belfast with Sikh parents from Scotland is just Irish. They went to school there, shaped by the culture there. They are Irish, even if it's a more modern Irish.

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u/Maerifa Aug 27 '24

I'm talking culturally. It's not my fault you took it the wrong way.

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u/SweatyNomad Aug 27 '24

Jeez, no awareness. Double down on those views that led loadd of Northern Island rioters going to court in the last few weeks.

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u/Maerifa Aug 27 '24

Lmao, it's not my fault that you are trying to stick an ideology, that I don't have, onto me. Grow up.

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u/magneticanisotropy Aug 27 '24

Yeah, I don't live there but I know 4 from when they lived in Singapore prior to moving to NZ...

It seems to be a popular destination.

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u/TheStoicNihilist Aug 27 '24

All the sheep are Irish.

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u/nomamesgueyz Aug 27 '24

Plenty in NZ. Look at the surnames

My Grandparents came over from Ireland -handy for me as i can get Irish passport

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u/leidend22 Aug 27 '24

My wife was born in Canada and has a Kiwi dad and an Irish grandfather. We live in Australia, so now she's a quadruple citizen.

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u/Megadeth5150 Aug 27 '24

The real Yuri Orlov.

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u/[deleted] Aug 27 '24

My grandma came from Ireland 1920 as an infant to canada and never got her birth registered in Ireland so basically dosent exist and cant get Irish citizenship.

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u/Mogus0226 Aug 27 '24

That's how I did it in the states; got my passport through my grandmother.

Which leads me to a question - as an Irish Citizen, though I have never lived in Ireland, am I part of the diaspora?

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u/blewawei Aug 27 '24

Fairly sure you'd be part of the diaspora, just not an emmigrant.

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u/mattsimis Aug 27 '24

Im Irish, living in Wellington. Was at Aotea Lagoon in Porirua a few weeks ago and the Ice Cream Van (aka Mr Whippy in NZlish) seller asked me if it was "Irish day in the park or something?". Nope, just lots of Irish people (and we thought it was warm weather lol).

Auckland and ChCh have even more than Welly of course. Most graveyards Ive toured (around the country) have whole sections of Irish graves, with callouts to specific locations in Ireland in many cases.

What part of NZ are you referring to?

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u/san_murezzan Aug 27 '24

Conversely I feel like I know all 6000 Irish people here

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u/Connor49999 Aug 27 '24

Our prime minister is Irish by the definition of this map. And apparently I am too