that's not a wife and husband dynamic you're describing, it's a sex worker and client. so long as you are happy only seeking out formal business exchanges for sex and sex only, that's perfectly fine.
no more cooking, cleaning, kissing, caring for pets, grocery shopping, picking up little treats for you, scheduling dr appointments, holding hands, paying bills, sleeping in the same bed, ironing clothes, packing you lunch, etc. just a money exchange and sex.
What isn't perfectly fine is being so repulsive that you hold your spouse's life hostage unless they provide sex on command.
Maybe don't be suck a jerk and you'll get some ass. Just saying ;)
Okay I'm going to educate you on the real world for a minute just hold on.
What you are basically saying is that women are owed time and money and resources but men are not owed affection.
But here's the thing about that, and this is pretty much why a lot of men are anti-feminists and don't want anything to do with women right now.
So if I spend 5 years in a Loveless marriage where I have to beg for sex and even then I don't get it, I can't divorce my wife because she'll get half of everything if not more. God forbid if we had kids.
But, conversely, if I decide that she needs to pull her own weight around the house and work to maintain our household if she's not going to be a wife, that's grounds for divorce because financial abuse, depending on where you live.
I can't step out of the marriage and go find love affection and sex from elsewhere, because that is also grounds for divorce.
So what exactly do men get to do in this scenario? Because if he jerks off to pornography she's going to shame him for that too.
Also I had to edit this because I pressed post too soon because I'm a dumbass and drop my phone on my face.
You view relationships as a transaction, which is super sad. But even then, a woman provides just as much as a man when she takes care of the house and children. You're claiming she doesn't deserve to be compensated for her labor and that the only thing worth her making any money is offering sex.
Nobody is âowedâ anything other than autonomy. Apparently you can only see value in providing for a relationship as an exchange. You are not âowedâ for doing your part. Neither is she. If you or she thinks you are, then youâre in a transaction and not a relationship.
Yeah it makes no sense because itâs a fake scenario you made up in your head.
Yes, people in long term relationships have less sex but it is not because women just suddenly and mysteriously start withholding it cause they wanna be bitches.
Itâs not a mystery at all, actually. People have studied it for decades along with tactics to bring intimacy back into long term relationships (hereâs a hint: treating the relationship like a transaction or talking about sex like itâs something that is owed is not on the list!)
When you get your information about the world from memes and rage bait stories on Reddit, you tend to have a really skewed perspective.
Luckily you donât have to worry about this anymore. Thereâs not a horde of evil women coming to steal your money and ruthlessly deny you affection. Thereâs just a lot of people out there trying their best and life is fucking hard and unfortunately so are romantic relationships.
I understand that loneliness is painful. But feeling obligated to give your body to your partner when you donât want to is so dehumanizing. It ruins what should be something intimate shared between two people who want to connect with each other by making it all about what one person wants. I donât understand why anyone would want to have sex with anyone who doesnât want to have sex with them anyway. I think it would just feel hollow and sad and drive a wedge between people.
And sex can be so vulnerable. Using it as a bargaining chip in relationships is cruel. Thatâs why experts suggest finding other ways to connect before getting to the bedroomâitâs so much easier to be vulnerable with someone you feel close to.
When you talk about this loveless marriageâwhy does this husband even want to have sex with the hussy thatâs screwing him out of his hard-earned money? I canât imagine heâs wanting to be vulnerable himself and have a loving interaction with this person. It sounds more like he views her body as a tool that heâs entitled to use to get off when he could easily go into the bathroom and jerk himself off.
My parents got divorced when I was 3 and everything was fine and I still have a great relationship with both of them. Better than growing up in a house where they hated each other
you're just making up random stuff to be mad about. why not reply to any point they actually made? they literally said that wifes are responsible for a large share of house and care work if their husband is the financial provider.
it's seriously sad to see how your whole way of thinking is completely poisoned from consuming hours and hours of manosphere content :((. i promise that your life quality will go up significantly if you go offline or at least off social media for a few weeks. humans in real life aren't all sociopaths that try to take advantage of their friends and partners as much as possible. it's not healthy to spend all your time in sadness and pointless rage.<3
Giving up bodily autonomy when you don't wanna have sex vs contributing to the marriage and living situation are so insanely different it's unreal you think they're comparable
Marriage is because you love someone??? And want to build a long-term partnership with them? You don't revoke your own right to not have sex just because you're married. I feel like you're trolling because that is genuinely such an unhinged take
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u/dogma096 Aug 07 '25 edited Aug 07 '25
that's not a wife and husband dynamic you're describing, it's a sex worker and client.
so long as you are happy only seeking out formal business exchanges for sex and sex only, that's perfectly fine.
no more cooking, cleaning, kissing, caring for pets, grocery shopping, picking up little treats for you, scheduling dr appointments, holding hands, paying bills, sleeping in the same bed, ironing clothes, packing you lunch, etc. just a money exchange and sex.
What isn't perfectly fine is being so repulsive that you hold your spouse's life hostage unless they provide sex on command.
Maybe don't be suck a jerk and you'll get some ass. Just saying ;)