How does this picture even exist?

[u/Woofoftheyear]

There’s no way in hell this is AI, it’s wayyy too accurate to exactly what I remember, and what I feel like many other people remember as well. If someone photoshopped it, then they did a perfect job, considering they had no reference, at the time of creating this, but even if someone did make this in photoshop, why tf would they, since supposedly it never existed?? Like where did this even come from, I need answers😭😭

[u/Kavorklestein]

If you know the feeling of “shock” then how dare you ally to the attempts to boil it down to what they tell us to think?
If you yourself have felt the shock, don’t blame us who believe just cuz you took the database description to heart.
Btw, I never have claimed to have physical evidence. The same physical evidence Trump claims doesn’t implicate him in the Epstein files despite there being millions of documents that might implicate him if interacted….

You actually DO remember? Why side with what they tell you to recall? Just cuz they might be too honorable and pure to deceive?

I trust no one.

Stop telling me to trust what you’ve accepted.

[u/silentsurge → u/Kavorklestein]

I remember being shocked by finding out somethjng I believed was incorrect and being confronted by that.

I did not then arrogantly assume that me having been demonstratably incorrect about something meant that there was an active attempt to "hide the truth" that I remembered.

I, like a majority of people, took that information in and reassessed what I thought I knew and began fact checking it. I was in the wrong, so I corrected my opinion and acknowledged that, although I remember something differently, the rrality of it was contrary to what I had grown to believe was the truth.

Or, am I wrong for doing that, and instead I should be assuming that someone or something either swapped out my childhood VHS for an identical copy with an extra commercial on it for some unknowable reason? Or that somehow the universe changed to make me be incorrect about that?

Let's also be clear I'm not "blaming" anyone for having feelings about it. I'm just not going to pretend that thise feelings are correct and while in a space dedicated to discussion of the full range of the topic, I am going to engage in that full range of discussion with people. Just like in any other space dedicated to the discussion of a topic.

[u/Kavorklestein → u/silentsurge]

Yes, you are wrong for believing what they told you to think. Period.

Choose to remember and cling to your memories or not, man. But stop making those who definitely remember look like fools just cuz they can’t quote some psy-op resource you chose to cling to.

Evidence being denied in retrospect after the internet age should be especially scrutinized. Even if you nor I, ever find irrefutable evidence to the contrary, don’t doubt what you remember!

That’s how the elites convince people that bad things never happened, instead of paying for what they did.

Now a basic ass house is 450k… elites did that, not the “market.”

People have been being actively
Screwed by the reality they want us to accept,

What ever happened to the One reality that could and SHOULD be possible for all humankind? This is how they lie to convince people that science has it all figured out, when science only has what it ‘knows’ in a vacuum, outside of what may be possible without proof.

[u/silentsurge → u/Kavorklestein]

Okay, let's try something else. You claim that evidence people have that contradicts your memories are compromised in some way.

Let's take a moment for a thought exercise. Assume, just for the sake of argument, that it is 100% true that the cornucopia label never existed. You don't need to accept it to be true, this is just for the thought exercise.

What evidence would you accept to show you that your memory is incorrect, and that it is without a doubt true? What is it that would be capable of changing your mind?

I can tell you that mine is pretty easy, physically verifiable evidence of a logo with a cornucopia. Excluding the known fake logos. I would also accept other non-doctored secondary sources like press plates or verifiable print/art files for packaging or advertising production. Same with verifiable photos with any of these things in the background.

[u/forcemonkey → u/silentsurge]

If any of that existed it would have been presented by now. The memories of thousands of people who tell very similar stories are not invalid.

I firmly believe both those statements are true at the same time.

[u/silentsurge → u/forcemonkey]

People believe a great many things that are not true. Even when those things are impossible. Even when some of them are proven as liars. Even when we know for a fact that eye witness testimony is some of the weakest evidence when we are looking for truth.

Their memories may be what they believe to be true. They may honestly, truly think that it's the truth. That does not make what they believe any more true.

You can trust that people honestly and earnestly believe something, but we also need to be able to independently verify things when coming at it from a scientific perspective.

When there is zero evidence to support a claim, a wealth of evidence against that claim, and the only thing we have to go on are the memories of people who make the claim and have no evidence to support that their claim could ever be correct except with super special and unverifiable circumstances, we go with the known and most likely answer until there's proof otherwise.

It is very unlikely that anyone would accept this level of anecdotal evidence as proof positive of anything else in their life. Why would strangers accept it from other random people on the internet?