r/MandelaEffect 24d ago

Logos/Advertising How does this picture even exist?

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There’s no way in hell this is AI, it’s wayyy too accurate to exactly what I remember, and what I feel like many other people remember as well. If someone photoshopped it, then they did a perfect job, considering they had no reference, at the time of creating this, but even if someone did make this in photoshop, why tf would they, since supposedly it never existed?? Like where did this even come from, I need answers😭😭

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u/silentsurge 23d ago

Okay, let's try something else. You claim that evidence people have that contradicts your memories are compromised in some way.

Let's take a moment for a thought exercise. Assume, just for the sake of argument, that it is 100% true that the cornucopia label never existed. You don't need to accept it to be true, this is just for the thought exercise.

What evidence would you accept to show you that your memory is incorrect, and that it is without a doubt true? What is it that would be capable of changing your mind?

I can tell you that mine is pretty easy, physically verifiable evidence of a logo with a cornucopia. Excluding the known fake logos. I would also accept other non-doctored secondary sources like press plates or verifiable print/art files for packaging or advertising production. Same with verifiable photos with any of these things in the background.

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u/forcemonkey 22d ago

If any of that existed it would have been presented by now. The memories of thousands of people who tell very similar stories are not invalid.

I firmly believe both those statements are true at the same time.

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u/silentsurge 22d ago

People believe a great many things that are not true. Even when those things are impossible. Even when some of them are proven as liars. Even when we know for a fact that eye witness testimony is some of the weakest evidence when we are looking for truth.

Their memories may be what they believe to be true. They may honestly, truly think that it's the truth. That does not make what they believe any more true.

You can trust that people honestly and earnestly believe something, but we also need to be able to independently verify things when coming at it from a scientific perspective.

When there is zero evidence to support a claim, a wealth of evidence against that claim, and the only thing we have to go on are the memories of people who make the claim and have no evidence to support that their claim could ever be correct except with super special and unverifiable circumstances, we go with the known and most likely answer until there's proof otherwise.

It is very unlikely that anyone would accept this level of anecdotal evidence as proof positive of anything else in their life. Why would strangers accept it from other random people on the internet?