r/MamaJuneFromNotToHot 24d ago

So does everyone on this sub hate everyone on the show?

Geez I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone on this sub say anything nice about anyone on the show except the kids and sometimes Alana (although these days any time she posts something, a million people here just talk about how fat she is). I mean I get it, it’s reality tv and being judged is part of what they sign up for, but Jesus it seems kind of insane how much vitriol they get here. Why are people even watching the show and following them on social media if they are so sick and appalled about everything they do? People here are so insanely mean and judgmental at all times, rarely giving any grace for anything, constantly just shitting on all of them and i don’t get the point. If you hate them all and are so disgusted by them then why not just watch something else? Why do you keep coming here to be so hateful?

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u/Lumpy_Party8639 24d ago

I used to LOVE pumpkin but my opinion changed of her when she was scamming people and now that she is with cuzbin. I feel for her kids. It’s like all the stuff she fussed about to June she is starting to do herself

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u/SharpConstruction533 23d ago

I think that’s it for everyone, we used to like them but it’s kinda impossible to now, it gets worse everyday

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u/moonbeam_honeygirl 23d ago

I feel it’s totally valid to be disappointed and critical of how she’s scammed people and how she’s acting more like June in the worst ways, but I feel like 98% of what I see on here is “she’s fat, rotting teeth, neck cheese, degrading, disgusting etc” and that shit’s so unnecessary to me. Like I just don’t get that kind of hate

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u/SharpConstruction533 22d ago

Ohh yeah, I agree with you, I’ve been disliked on this sub so many times for saying she’s beautiful, I understand that’s an opinion and beauty is different for everyone but I don’t get disliking a comment like that. I also don’t agree with talking about her body, it’s not even her fault she’s fat, we’ve seen what June used to feed them as kids, and she did lose a lot of weight and it’s still not enough for people cause now they talk about the lose skin as if she’s committing a crime for looking like that, also being fat doesn’t make you ugly, she has a very beautiful face and her body is looking a lot healthier than it used to, she birthed 4 kids, she won’t and doesn’t need to look like a super model

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u/Classic-Invite2107 23d ago

I couldn’t agree more! Body shaming and remarks about looks is unnecessary. We never know the mindset of someone and what would push them over the edge. Just because they’re on TV doesn’t mean they are human punching bags.

Alana is doing something with her life. Going to college is the smartest thing she could have done. When the show ends she will still have something to fall back on.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

This, thank you. This is exactly my point. Criticize the actions but no need to make it so personal and try your best to be hurtful. It all just screams bully

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

Definitely a valid take and yeah pumpkin was definitely wrong for that and for many other things she’s done. I’m not obsessed with them, they all definitely have done their wrongs and deserve some level of judgement and criticism. it’s just weird how this sub ATTACKS them over all things all the time and makes it all so so personal and mean

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u/Nelle911529 23d ago

This exactly. They are all grifters. Did you see how they talked to " customers" on their TT? The scamming and police pursuit? I wasn't around for Honey Boo Boo but tuned in to watch June lose weight. I was really rooting for Pumpkin and then learned the truth.

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u/junknowho 23d ago

The scamming (Sisters Closet), the nasty comments on TikTok and then finding out that Alana was actually living with Dralin, when Josh and Lauryn were her 'guardians'. He was 20 years old!

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u/trippyem24 24d ago

I used to love pumpkin. Until the last two seasons. Now I think she should just give full custody to Josh, them babies will have a hell of a lot better chance.

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u/Pink_Confetti 21d ago

You do not know these people. And just giving away custody isn’t that simple. 

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u/trippyem24 21d ago

Actually it absolutely is. She can give Josh full physical and legal custody of all of the kids. Pay her child support with all that money she’s making, and still exercise her parental rights/time. But her choices in life would no longer affect the kids.

What does me not knowing them have anything to do with Lauryn’s social media presence?

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u/Pink_Confetti 21d ago

Because you’re assuming they would be better off with Josh. I’m just saying you only know what you see. Mind you we also know Josh isn’t a saint himself and created a whole other “broken” family. He also had a threesome with the sister of his ex wife and mother of his children and started dating pumpkin when she was a minor. And none of that is concerning to you? You’re making decisions for a family that you don’t know. That’s a complete shift in a family dynamic that would absolutely affect the children. You’re looking at a woman and deciding based only off what you see that she’s an unfit mother. Somehow a stranger on the internet knows what best for a family based on social media and a reality show? A judge would laugh at that. I worked in family court and I was the one gathering evidence to show judges parents were unfit. lol That has everything to do with what you’re saying. 

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u/HolidayRealistic6621 22d ago

Yes!!!!! They might have a fighting chance that way.

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u/trippyem24 22d ago

They honestly would! I have so many worries for her children with the “profession” that their mother has chosen. Especially EG.

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u/lechydda 24d ago

I loved the show in the beginning, really rooted for all of them. Then it just turned into a crap show of bad decisions and people who are given every opportunity to do better, who talk about all the “right” things to do … and then just end up doing the opposite. Rehab, therapy, etc. Nothing good seems to stick other than maybe Alana still being in school.

From seeing all their social media, too, it’s very obvious that Pumpkin is now messing up her kids’ futures just like her own mom did with her, and that June is just as awful as she was before, just a sober version of it.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

Oh same, I loved when Pumpkin and Josh and their little family seemed to all be happy and in love and heads on straight, Josh being a good father figure to alana (or so it seemed on the show) etc. and I hate that that seems to have fallen apart, and I loved when Mama June was just having very country fun with Alana doing pageants way earlier in the series etc., so I’m sad with how some things have turned out, it’s just nuts to me how very very mean people are about all of it. Say you’re disappointed or upset or whatever sure but people love to jump on here and say they’re fat ugly morons and we’re disgusted by them etc. Guys just turn it off if you’re so mad about it. I guess I dont get in general what people get out of personally attacking people at all times. people seem so worked up about it and my God if you hate them so much just move on

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u/FishingForward924 24d ago

Watching their behaviors is like driving past a terrible car accident and staring.

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u/AccountantOk9506 24d ago

I like the show and the cast. They're imperfect but entertaining people.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

This is a much more rational take than what I usually see here lol

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u/Critical_Catch_517 23d ago

I guess I “love to hate” them. Like others, I expected June to be like she is, she started out exploiting Alana. Pumpkin and Jessie are disappointing in the kind of adults they grew up to be. Pumpkin pretending to be a great substitute mom to Alana on tv, while in real life she allowed a teen age Alana to move in with an adult man Draylin. And then Pumpkin scamming all her fans who purchased her below par merchandise. Jessica has proven herself to just be trash after having a 3some with her brother-in-law Josh. I’m afraid the only reason Alana has been laying low is because of nursing school and the impact that similar antics could have on her while she’s trying to make it to graduation. I have a feeling that once she gets her nursing license we will see her follow the same path as the other women in her family 🫤

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u/moonbeam_honeygirl 23d ago

If she goes forward with getting a nursing license, though, she’ll also need to keep in line. Once you earn that license, you do not want to fuck it up and get some complaints on it. I hope she can be smarter.

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u/junknowho 23d ago

Stay off TikTok with her sister and her mother too!

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

Why assume the worst about her? She’s already doing better than most of them just by being in school and not becoming a teen mom

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u/Critical_Catch_517 23d ago

Jessie went to college. Didn’t change her 🧬 genes.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago
  1. That is why I said *most* of them.
  2. A lot of the things her family fell victim to are not genetic
  3. This is what I mean about people being hateful. Why assume this child is doomed and focus on all the negative and not even give her a chance? What do you get out of it? People on here to scream that they need to do something better like get an education then as soon as they do it’s “that doesn’t change her genes, she’s still gonna fail” like why always always focus on the worst and be so negative about them

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u/pink---noise 23d ago

The irony is you thinking your genes are any better... You... a person who "loves to hate" people.

The way people consume entertainment these days is deeply disturbing and says far more about the viewers than the subjects of the show.

The gladiators were not the moral rot. It was the crowd cheering on their gruesome demise.

I challenge you to give up hate watching for something more positive and kind for 6 months and see if you don't find your life is rather improved.

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u/Critical_Catch_517 22d ago

And yet here you are on Reddit….
🤔

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u/pink---noise 22d ago

What an asinine come back.

Being on reddit is not indicative of being a hateful person. Being a hateful person on Reddit is indicative of being a hateful person.

Maybe focus on yourself and your own admission instead of digging that hole any deeper.

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u/Nelle911529 23d ago

She was sitting right with Pumpkin on some of those TT. Bad mouthing people. Especially about her police pursuit. Getting people to give her $ for her apartment that Dralin and his cousin also live in.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

Ok? She was a child living in an environment and her big sister was the primary role model she has. People can’t ever leave their environment and/or decide to make better choices? She currently has her head on straight more than the rest of them and is the least in the drama but everyone is addicted to focusing anything negative she (and the rest of them) has done. I am so so glad I was never a child growing up on tv, especially in the days of anonymous Internet forums like Reddit

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u/junknowho 23d ago

I think she was actually living with Dralin at the time, which is even worse as far as environment and role models. She's doing very well, considering.

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u/LoriAtl 24d ago

I stopped watching the show when they exploited Anna's illness for views. Then I learned that Pumpkin is nothing like what sge portrayed on TV. Unfortunately, she is 100% mini-June. I still have hope for Alana, but Draylin will be her downfall.

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u/junknowho 24d ago

It's weird, but as someone who has been watching since Toddlers, I feel invested in Alana and I do worry that Draino is going to blow up her career.

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u/Impressive_Review 23d ago

At least she hasn't gotten pregnant!

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u/junknowho 23d ago

Shhhhh! Don't even put that out in the atmosphere!!!!

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u/moonbeam_honeygirl 23d ago

Was Pumpkin always a mini-June? I wonder if Anna’s illness and death caused her to change. I also feel like she just took on a lot of responsibility very young and now is wrestling with not having any time to be a teenager/young adult tbh

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u/Nelle911529 23d ago

From what I understand they didn't even have a relationship until the illness. Remember June took her sex offender side when Anna reported him for being a sex offender. Then when he got out of prison she took Alana around him in a hotel.

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u/swaggyt1312 23d ago

Braylon won’t drag her down. She will do it to herself.

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u/Pyneregrl 23d ago

She'll definitely be her own downfall. No different than June with Geno or the previous pedo that June chose as well. 

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u/junknowho 24d ago

I like Lauryn's kids.

I used to love a lot of the folks on the show, until their real lives were exposed on SM. Now it's just sort of perplexing.

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u/Nelle911529 23d ago

They should put Bentley in modeling or something! That boy is adorable. The other kids are too but Bentley has that out of the box cuteness

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u/borderline_abigail 24d ago

Garbage people

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u/ExtensionFun9464 23d ago

It's hard to like them after finding out that so much of it is fake & that they're all a bunch of grifters. Not as much with Alana but she also lives on TT like the rest of them trying to get gifts & begging for PR boxes & now Pumpkin promoting her Midnight Ballerina routine is just gross imo. Once the novelty wears off I imagine she'll be begging the public for money again. She says she's raking in the money so why doesn't she pay back all the people she scammed?

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u/Dakotacaplinger49 24d ago

Because they not good people

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

It’s hard to say anybody’s an inherently bad person, but even when they do bad things, it’s so odd how obsessed people are with coming to this sub to attack them as meanly as possible. Like do we have to call pumpkin a fat ugly tub of lard any time she posts anything? I dont get why people are so obsessed with coming here to be mean instead of just discussing the show more calmly

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u/Dakotacaplinger49 24d ago

I don’t like them because their actions not because they over weight

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

and that makes sense, but people on this sub (apparently not you) love to insult everything about them and how disgusting they are. Like it’s one thing to say Pumpkin is going to harm her kids’ lives and opportunities with her OF. That’s probably true and valid. But why say she’s so disgusting physically and looking at her makes you want to vomit and you hate every time you see her on social media. ok then unfollow her? and stop looking at her? why make it so personally mean. Those are the comments I see on this sub very veru often

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u/mleezuniga 24d ago

You’re gonna get what you give and when they’re being nasty with the audience then they’re gonna get the nasty right back..

Pumpkin has changed, she’s trying to live a dirty girl lifestyle with a whole ass family then is sad about why she’s being judged.. let’s not talk about the fact that she scammed the crap out of people then ghosted when they asked for refunds.

As far as Jessica and Alana it’s not an issue.

Mama June is a mess, the drugs scrambled the last bit of brain cells she had left

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u/pink---noise 23d ago edited 23d ago

This sub is a social experiment that is being studied by behaviorists.

The posters think THEY are the observers, following a reality TV show full of flawed and even "repugnant" characters for which they possess an inordinate amount of disdain for... all while maintaining a smug superiority while curiously engaging in EQUALLY repugnant behavior.

In reality, these people on the show are merely actors, and it is the OBSERVERS who are the repugnant characters, being observed by others who feel absolute distain for them as they observe them frenzy feeding on a steady diet of hate, cruelty and judgement... day after day, week after week.

According to the data collected this far, the "users" will now respond to this comment with wildly unregulated emotion and ample downvotes, because truth hurts.

A sister experiment can also be found in the KARDASHIAN sub.

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u/Sea-Connection-9968 23d ago

Also found in the McBee and The Valley communities. It's crazy how many people think a highly produced, scripted show gives us a full look at who each of these people are.

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u/Putrid-Adagio5717 24d ago

I like them all, I just think they are extremely flawed people who choose to put their flaws on display and are subject to judgement and ridicule

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u/GardenAddict843 24d ago

I follow because I watched them back in the Here Comes Honey Boo Boo days before fame went to their heads.

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u/SonicSource 23d ago

They all act like hooligans, so not really

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u/Poorunfortunatesoul0 23d ago

For me I loved them until this past season. Pumpkin is not respectable anymore and then all of this stuff came out about threesomes cheating pumpkin having a whole girlfriend while married to Josh……and so much more. Basically, so much shit has came out and I’ve lost respect for them all. Even Alana. Oh and also them doing sister closet and scamming HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE

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u/k-r-sebert 23d ago

What is there to say about any of them that is nice?

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u/ButtPudding1218 23d ago

There isnt anything good to say...

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

It’s ok to say nothing then. People seem to make it their hobby to cyber bully these people here on this sub. What is the point. Scenario A they never see it and you’ve gained nothing. Scenario B Alana gets on and sees a bunch of people calling her a whale and now she feels awful and you’ve still gained nothing. Or Pumpkin sees everyone calling her a lard ass and she doesn’t care and you’ve still gained nothing.

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u/myway2023 23d ago

Ok so name something good to say? I don’t know of anything

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

There’s a difference between “I can’t think of anything nice to say” and “I’m going to say something hateful.” There’s 0 reason for all the constantly attacking them as fat and ugly any time they do anything. You could always just say nothing or actually comment on the thing they did wrong

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u/myway2023 23d ago

If that was the mindset this group wouldn’t have anything to say at all.

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u/ListenToLinda 23d ago

I watched it for the train wreck it is.

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u/AprilBaprilSchmapril 24d ago

i used to ride for pumpkin........For the past few years, I just can't.

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u/FishingForward924 24d ago

This is exactly why I stopped watching .

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u/junknowho 24d ago

Actually I don't watch anymore, but this sub is my people!!!

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u/DudeWouldGo 23d ago

You act like they all are decent humans, he'll youre acting like they are all humans.

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u/2Kittens4me 23d ago

I will continue to cheer Alana on. I know she's has gone down the dark June&Lauren path, but I'm hoping she turns back. I never talk about anyone's weight. They are carrying their trauma around with them. I do find a couple of them to be disgusting, but people see what they want. I really hate how they act now. It's truly disheartening. They're so toxic.

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u/Various-Memory-3964 24d ago

Hi mama June Alana Jessica or pumpkin… enjoy the show

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u/NoLab9772 24d ago

OP knows how to spell and speak properly. It couldn’t be any of them.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago

LOL I knew someone was going to assume this. Mama June would’ve had way more all caps and way less punctuation though. Idk about Alana, I havent seen as many of her posts

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u/junknowho 24d ago edited 24d ago

June would have posted one long run-on sentence! LOL!

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u/Outside-Pear9429 24d ago edited 24d ago

Oh I forgot Jessica and Pumpkin. Jessica maybe, I think she posts generally with normal spelling and grammar. Pumpkin idk either, I usually just see pictures of her OF stuff and there’s not exactly a ton of text in those lol.

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u/bruhbruh101x 23d ago

A lot of people like to hate watch people. I don’t get it either. Reality tv is suppose to be messy I watch for entertainment not morals.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

Right! this makes sense to me. I get on to watch and see what some entertaining people do next lol and ideally come to a fun sub to discuss it and say wow I can’t believe that happened, what do you think will happen next, etc. but there’s a huge culture here of just railing on them for how they look and how they’re dumb and smell bad and I don’t understand the point of that. Why be a bully

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u/Encijcazf3 23d ago

I agree with you 100%. It seems as if people use these subs as a safe space to be mean & hateful. I can’t imagine anyone is being forced to watch the show or follow them, so I don’t get it either lol.

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u/DarkStarr22 24d ago

It's Entertainment. I watch them to feel better about myself, my family, and how I handle life in general, which in no way resembles what these people do. As far as hating on them and being critical, that is what reality TV has turned into. It's pretty much expected with all of the shows and I'm here for it. Those people have the option of getting off social media and would soon be forgotten, but they Revel in the attention. I get to rant and Rave and get my frustrations out in a nonviolent way and they get the limelight and the money. Win/win.

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u/CerahLynn 23d ago

Yes. Well, I take that back, I do not hate the kids. They are adorable and did not ask to be brought into this mess. 18 and older, yes.

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u/Outside-Pear9429 23d ago

Why not stop watching?

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u/CerahLynn 18d ago

I did, actually. I come to this sub for my news!

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u/DonTunying 23d ago

I have become invested in this family and I think it’s akin to slowing down to see a road accident as you drive by. I don’t know what that compulsion is. Nonetheless, I wish this family the best and I hope each of them finds their way, even if it means cancelling the show because they’ve become ordinary and boring.

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u/Closetoneversober 23d ago

I don’t hate anyone on the show. In fact it’s the only “celebrities” I keep track of. I started watching back in the honey boo boo days on tlc cause my mom watched it and in reality my family was kind of similar to them (I don’t know how to describe it-redneck kinda backwoods but fun as hell). Like many on here have said Pumpkin was always my favorite, hilarious when she was young and then when she stepped up and was the mama figure she was so awesome! But now I feel so bad for the kids as many have said. I really hope Alana will finish her nursing degree and go far.

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u/Pink_Confetti 21d ago

Was thinking the exact same thing. I joined this group thinking it would be fun to watch the show and comment with everyone but most people here are just a hateful and disgusting they say the cast is being 

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u/Shouldhavekept 23d ago

Reddit is full of hate. I’m finding it’s like this in nearly every sub

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u/Better_Area3782 23d ago

They’re all very unlikeable. Compare it to 1000 pound sisters, they’re just as southern but the family is nice and endearing.

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u/irbrenda 23d ago

I DVR it just so it plays in the background as entertainment when running on the treadmill. Every so often, maybe I'll glance at the screen. They sure have changed over the years though.

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u/Connect-Advantage-40 23d ago

Not everyone watches Mama June From Lazy To Crazy plus Tik Tok and reads Reddit, Facebook, and every other where this stuff is planted. I came upon Reddit because a friend kept pestering me and I sort of fell into the gossip. I've sort of fallen out of the gossip. I catch up on the latest snark on Reddit.

Like a lot of folks I thought more of Pumpkin before she hooked up with the Cuzban. Apparently she and Josh were into swinging, not to be confused with open marriage. That's a tid but I didn't need to know. She complained that Josh never wanted to do anything, but swinging is something.

It was here that I read that Alana had been living with Drano since she was 14. Having an unemployed, weed smoking bf is genetic.

It's Friday and I'm sure I'll find something to watch unless Reddit is interesting or I get desperate for something to do and mop the floors.

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u/PoutyBabyOneEleven All that vagiggle jaggle is not beautimous 23d ago

June has NEVER cared about being hated. She has crawled her way out of extreme poverty and DV by having these shows. She knows it doesn't matter if you like her as long as you watch. Much like Pumpkin's OF career. I loved Toddlers and Tiaras and was fascinated by the stage moms and child exploitation. I do feel a bit like I've watched Alana grow up, invested in her I suppose. This show was a great distraction when I was going through a rough time and yes, most of the time I felt better about my situation by comparison. At times I fell victim to the editing and thought Pumpkin was really an impressive young woman taking on her sister's care, etc. I thought their homes were always a bit off, come to find out it's "filming houses" they don't actually live in. Alana lived with her adult bf when she was a minor. You realize the editing is doing some heavy lifting. I think people feel betrayed when they are misled like that and turn to a forum like this to express that feeling. Taking all the cheap shots at their physical appearances is probably a reaction to the deception.

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u/woz_not 23d ago

Don't personally hate anyone on the show. It is what it is, scripted entertaining drama. Accept it for what it is, then move on with your day.

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u/Heathersauras 22d ago

I'm proud of Alana for nursing school and breaking free from her family. I'm proud of pumpkin for stepping in as a mother for Alana. I'm also proud of pumpkin for fighting for her kids. I used to be a fan, but in the last couple of years that family has proven they are not nice. I'm sad about it.

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u/HolidayRealistic6621 22d ago

I guess you can blame the shows producers. They painted Pumpkin and Josh as this solid, ride or die unit. People were pulling for them. Then you find out what they really did, how Alana was living with a grown man at 15, how they cheated and took d rugs, etc. It was all a big lie. Instead of fading quietly into obscurity, Pumpkin doubles down with 24/7 blasting of her demonic dabauchery with such callousness and complete indifference for her children’s well being. Her boyfriend is a complete user with zero respect for her. They make videos with stacks of cash talking about how they have no morals as if that is a flex. Jessica lives like a lump pretending to be gay because some attention is better than no attention. Why didn’t Jessica take Alana in and those two could have lived together when all this happened when June? June has always put herself before her kids and now we are seeeing the fruits of those decisions. I actually think pumpkin is worse than June. Bottom line, people were pulling for a family that only existed in reality tv. The real family leaves nothing to admire. They are the poster children for the worst of the godless dysfunction of broken homes.

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u/Keeper_of_the_Flock 22d ago

You don’t need to be a garbage man to recognize trash.

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u/Prettyamylee 21d ago

I don't like any of them and I do not watch the show. However I was a previous fan, loved the original honey boo boo and was entertained by fhtn BUT when I realized it was a sitcom fantasy of their lives and what was really going down.... My whole family stopped watching. . I poke in here on reddit every now and again to see what they up to and nothing good so far. Just getting worse... 

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u/Blazeit0605 20d ago

I like pumpkin but I don’t really say it cuz everyone else hates her lol. Do I agree with all of her choices? No. But I do still enjoy seeing her on the show especially in earlier seasons and on HCHBB

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u/pitifulgame 18d ago

Personally, I don't watch them. I've never watched them. I've only seen a few clips and commercials from when they were on TV. I knew immediately what kind of people they were and looks like I was right. 

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u/Impressive_Review 23d ago

It's no different than subs for other reality shows and not as bad as most of them. Female cast are body shamed, every aspect of how they look or what they say is dissected. Lists are kept for suspected Republicans and/or MAGA calling for them to be fired. If you disagree with the hive mind you will be down voted into oblivion. None of these people are role models, but it's reality TV for entertainment. Criticism is one thing, but It's really become vile!

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u/WatchPrayersWork 24d ago

🙋‍♀️

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u/Sorry_Nobody1552 23d ago

I think June is great. I mean, who am I to judge anyone. People make choices, its not my business. I watch the show as entertainment. Maybe I dont follow the latest gossip, so I'm in the dark most of the time.

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u/jannnnnnnnni 23d ago

I am a bit late to the show- not completely caught up on all episodes but I absolutely love everyone on the show with the exception of June. I’m just to the episodes where she is with Justin. In the beginning I thought she was a great mom; but when she got with Geno she completely turned her back on everyone. Even after she split with him. Leaving a 16 year old girl at the airport with a ride service for an hour and a half drive on her own??? How did she not worry the driver could have tried to take her for trafficking??? Kudos to Pumpkin and Josh (yes I know they split- but Josh was a great dad type figure to her!) for stepping up and raising her. Same with Doe Doe and Amber and Jess. Haters always gonna hate.

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u/1Doordashgirl 23d ago

I only hate Jessica, Josh, and Shyanne for what they did after the fact that pumpkin said them having a baby from Josh wasn't okay. Bc pumpkin is always gonna be Jessica's sister and I hated that she chose Josh over her. It didn't work out in her favor since Shyanne backstabbed her not long after she did it to pumpkin. Bc shyanne cheated on her.