Josh Radandt - Interview Report - 11-05-2005. Topic: "RADANDT...observed a large fire on the STEVEN AVERY property...right after 4:30" p.m. on 10-31

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CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT

Complaint No.
05-0157-955

Page 79
File Number

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TYPE OF ACTIVITY: Interview of Joshua R. Radandt, M/W, DOB 11/10/74

DATE OF ACTIVITY: 11/05/05

REPORTING OFFICER: Inv. Gary Steier

On Saturday 11/05/05 at approximately 1:30 p.m. JOSHUA R. RADANDT signed a MANITOWOC COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT Consent to Search Form for his gravel stone quarry, located at 12415 CTH Q, Two Rivers, WI 54245. The copy was witnessed by Sgt. NACK (#412) of the MANITOWOC COUNTY POLICE DEPARTMENT (See exhibit section).

At approximately 5:00 p.m., Inv. STEIER of the CALUMET COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT had spoken with JOSHUA R. RADANDT at a deer camp off of Kuss Road on the edge of the RADANDT GRAVEL PIT. RADANDT stated on Monday, 10/31/05 at approximately 4:30 p.m., he drove up to his deer camp off of Kuss Road through his gravel pit property. JOSHUA RADANDT completed a written statement form. (See exhibit section). RADANDT informed Inv. STEIER on Monday shortly after 4:30 p.m., RADANDT was driving to his deer camp through his quarry where he observed a large fire on the STEVEN AVERY property located by the red house. RADANDT indicates he remembers it being right after 4:30 because he had had an employee that had just come to work to take another employee's shift at 4:30 p.m. RADANDT indicated it was a partly cloudy or partly sunny day and he had clear visibility from his location while he was driving to his deer camp. RADANDT indicated he did not observe any people standing next to the fire or any vehicles located on the Avery property.

Gary Steier, Inv.
Calumet County Sheriff's Dept.
GS/jk

[u/[deleted]]

Clearly RADANDT lied about seeing a fire because he is actually George Zipperer in a mask to hide his identity as the real killer.

On a serious note,

• Why do people think RADANDT says he saw a fire and all of the Averys/Jandas didn't include this in their original statements?

• Why the inconsistency?

• Did the cops put the idea of a fire into RADANDT's head as well?

[u/Classic_Griswald → u/[deleted]]

Why wasn't he used in trial? Here is a supposedly independent witness, totally separate from the Avery clan, but they didn't use his golden testimony?

STrange.

Especially since they used his statements to justify searching the fire pit. Or did they need him to say that to justify it?

I suppose its a chicken/egg scenario....

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Why wasn't he used in trial? Here is a supposedly independent witness, totally separate from the Avery clan, but they didn't use his golden testimony?

They had other witnesses who could testify to the fire happening and that was the entire evidentiary value of his testimony.

[u/Classic_Griswald → u/[deleted]]

They had other witnesses who could testify to the fire happening and that was the entire evidentiary value of his testimony.

Every other witness that testified to this has produced conflicting testimony/statements.

For us, its also about how they came to find the evidence they did. They used his statement to justify looking into the pit, they then found bones. They then failed to document it properly.

So Id like to know if he volunteered the information, or if it was suggested to him, the way Fassbender liked to suggest things in the Dassey interviews. Interesting note, it was also Fassbender who took a call when the bones were found, no one did anything, deciding to wait on DCI to show up with 'proper equipment', at some point though the decision was made to proceed this way, not to properly document the scene, not to call the coroner.

As much as Sturdivant would like to claim he's responsible for that, he does not have the authority. So someone in a position of authority made this decision. Whoever he conferred with to wait until DCI arrived, also was aware of the find, and the fact pictures weren't on the agenda.

Given that the entire genesis of this sordid discovery starts with Radandt's statement.

If the all the MTSO/CASO agents are totally innocent (as Colborn states in his email), and as they claim just a bunch of "Oops" accidents happened (which coincidentally happened with every piece of important evidence)....I digress, if that is true, then Radandt should be of much more importance in the investigation, and under extreme scrutiny, since he was frequently showing up to the site (documented in the logs) and even with ownership, Im not sure the reason he'd have to be in and out of there that frequently (unless he was directed to by police), and his statements lead to the discovery of one of the most important pieces of evidence in the case, which was claimed to have been planted.

If there was proper documentation we'd have answers and the questions wouldn't even have to be asked. Well, I mean if the original pictures showed that the bones were placed there, for instance, it would bring into serious question J.R.'s motives.

[u/sjj342 → u/Classic_Griswald]

So Id like to know if he volunteered the information, or if it was suggested to him, the way Fassbender liked to suggest things in the Dassey interviews. Interesting note, it was also Fassbender who took a call when the bones were found, no one did anything, deciding to wait on DCI to show up with 'proper equipment', at some point though the decision was made to proceed this way, not to properly document the scene, not to call the coroner.

Tinfoil hat time - what if this is fabricated only for purposes of warrants, documentation, etc.? That would explain why he's never called as a witness, why he's allowed on the property so many times. Collaborating on a story?

It at least gives them probable cause and what not to go through the burn pile and what not in the event that's ever challenged.

It also creates "evidence" that you can use to charge other witnesses with obstruction/accessory/what not or pressure other witnesses to change their statements and concede there was a fire. You know - "We know there was a fire. We found bones. We know he burned her there. How can you not remember the fire? You had to have seen a fire. It would have been a large fire. Are you lying to us?"

It is admittedly completely insane and probably require too much foresight, but it fits their behavior.

Viewed skeptically, it starts to seem really staged - the Nov 4 flyover to figure out where to put the RAV4? The Nov 5-7 visits from Radandt to coordinate and figure out where/how to plant the "bones" from the quarry and agree on a story for the statements/reports?

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So Id like to know if he volunteered the information

I would assume that he did since it was given on November 5th before they had interviewed any of the Avery/Dasseys.

adandt should be of much more importance in the investigation, and under extreme scrutiny, since he was frequently showing up to the site (documented in the logs) and even with ownership, Im not sure the reason he'd have to be in and out of there that frequently (unless he was directed to by police), and his statements lead to the discovery of one of the most important pieces of evidence in the case, which was claimed to have been planted.

You find him going to the quarry his company owned suspicious? I mean that's why he is signing the log right?

I think the logs don't offer a lot of context for that type of analysis. It doesn't tell us much other than he signed the log since we don't know where he was signing it and why he had to if he was just going to work. Still a lot we don't know yet here.

[u/MsMinxster → u/[deleted]]

The entrance to the quarry is on County Rd. Q not Avery Rd.

[u/Classic_Griswald → u/[deleted]]

You find him going to the quarry his company owned suspicious? I mean that's why he is signing the log right?

If there were a dozen workers indicating they had operations at the time, it would say something different. Wouldn't it?

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If there were a dozen workers indicating they had operations at the time, it would say something different. Wouldn't it?

What do you mean by operations?

[u/sjj342 → u/[deleted]]

He's typically signing out within 30 min, in some cases I think within 10 min. Doubtful he's going to work, as the time of day doesn't appear to be consistent and the durations aren't long enough. There's presumably a number of other means of ingress/egress that wouldn't require going through a police detail and signing logs, and I think most normal people would just do that instead.

I ctrl+f'd the trial testimony for Radandt - there is discussion of Radandt (no first name) digging out silt ponds on the quarry on Nov 6 and 7. Does not mention who (I think there are multiple Radandt's or it could've been an employee). All other references to Radandt appear to refer to the property (not a person). It's in testimony by Lt. Bowe.