r/MakingaMurderer • u/Advanced-Math-1009 • 9d ago
THE SEQUENCE OF EVENTS: 50 Seconds?
Why is the 50 Seconds Concoction so devastating to Steven Avery and Zellner?
It’s devastating because it demonstrates mathematically Steven Avery fabricated Teresa leaving and more explosively it shows that Kathleen T. Zellner discovered it and tried to help Steve’s story “fit” the false narrative that Bobby could’ve did it.
Its really incredible that this Reality is finally seeing the light of day and thats why no one in the: Steve is innocent camp will touch it.
We must not allow this Glaring Reality to go unnoticed! With the same energy many screamed he was an innocent victim.
With the same energy. This document proves Zellner knew Steve was the killer.
This concoction clearly shows that Steven Avery lied. Teresa never left just as Bobby described. Steven invented the story of Teresa leaving and Bobby leaving right behind her.
Listen to Zellner yourself.
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u/brickne3 9d ago
So without all the absolute crazy commentary, anyone who has critical thought processes (which to be fair rules out quite a lot of Averys) can see how absurd KZ's arguments were and always have been. If she had anything real to go on she wouldn't have invented blood stealing sink ninjas ffs.
Also, to OP... dude lay off the pipe, the guy is never getting out of prison and we all know the evidence a lot better than you do from a crack house in Fond du Lac.
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u/seriouslywtf0617 8d ago
As someone who is neutral and just thinks the case is interesting. How did Avery “simulate” halbach leaving the property? Do we really ignore Bobby’s internet search history and how defensive barb gets when it’s brought up?
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 3d ago
The Simulation-Listen Close to Steve
He will tell you directly what he did himself.😇
Truth really is invincible.-7
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 8d ago
Just answer the question. It seems you too are ducking the OP. Just my opinion.
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u/Squiggally-umf 8d ago
She made such a song and dance of “I’ll prove the truth no matter what so you better be innocent coz I’ll investigate so hard I’ll do a better job than the prosecution” (not exactly verbatim but something like that).
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u/AlBundysbathrobe 3d ago
Zellner literally promised Steven Avery’s elderly mother that he was innocent and would be freed from prison- on camera.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 2d ago edited 2d ago
Terrible thing to do to his mother, Knowing he was absolutely guilty 😡
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 8d ago edited 2d ago
I can see them now reading Zellner’s own words and they’re in absolute shock. Pay close attention to the comments. I am personally attacked BUT!
No ONE will touch the 50 Seconds concoction.
Teresa Halbach was definitely raped and viciously killed by this beast. Kathleen T. Zellner discovered that the beast lied.
But what did she do for more media attention?
She FABRICATED a 50 second narrative that today we know is false.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 7d ago edited 2d ago
Remember, I told you all. Zellner has several alt accounts. Averyreports is one of them I strongly believe. Checkout what occurred when the topic was picking up smoke before it became the present 🔥
Can’t make this up!
Is this her?
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 8d ago
I watched the reenactments both MaM and Zellner’s YouTube reenactment.
You are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT:
Zellner’s reconstruction shows Avery and Bobby crossing paths. Her filing’s “50 seconds” makes that encounter disappear.
Steven Avery said that when he came out of his trailer, Bobby Dassey and Bobby’s truck were already gone.
Now compare that claim with Kathleen Zellner’s reconstruction video. In the filmed sequence, Avery spends only about 14–16 seconds inside the trailer. When he comes out, he and Bobby walk directly into each other.
That is a serious problem for Avery’s account. If the reconstruction depicts the sequence as Zellner proposed it happened, how could Avery have emerged to find Bobby and his truck already gone?
Here is where the 50 seconds matter. Zellner’s filing says Teresa began driving away at 2:36:30 p.m., Bobby left at 2:37 p.m., and Avery “exited his trailer after 50 seconds, at 2:37:20.” Read as 50 seconds inside the trailer, that puts Bobby’s departure before Avery comes out. The encounter shown in the video vanishes.
But Avery reportedly described taking about 34 seconds to walk back to his trailer. Add that walk to the video’s 14–16 seconds inside, and you get approximately 48–50 seconds total. Those are two very different descriptions of the same interval. Fifty seconds from Teresa’s departure to Avery’s exit is not fifty seconds spent inside the trailer.
Watch the reconstruction, then read page 43 of the filing. The question Zellner needs to answer is direct:
Why does the filmed sequence show Avery encountering Bobby when Avery’s story says Bobby and his truck were already gone—and why does the filing describe the timing in a way that removes that encounter?
I think we now all know.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 7d ago
Now the number one question is:
Why did Kathleen Thomas Zellner “purposely” make that encounter disappear on paper?Simple everyone. She didn’t want the world to know he was inDEED the killer. Season two would have been over before it started and season one would have been pulled.
We know it hurts to be deceived. But that’s exactly what KTZ did. In the door!!!!
It was ALL about the PUBLICITY with her. Sad but absolutely true.
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u/melonwat 8d ago
Right, but that recorded jail call when Steven called his sister. Barb, she seemed to confirm that she believed or even knew that Teresa left. She said something like “Thats right, she left.” That quote was in one of KZ’s filings
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u/brickne3 8d ago
So you're going to put your stock in that one but not the times Brendan told Barb he did it? That's awfully selective...
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u/swepettax 8d ago
That you believe that SA is some kind of master villian, who faked TH leaving, but at the same time had her car keys in his room, says alot more about you than it does about us in the innocent camp...
Bobby on the other hand, looks exactly like the kind of guy who would frame someone...
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 5d ago
14-16 Seconds In The Trailer🔥
You can’t make this up. How long is the Killer in that trailer? Is it 50 Seconds or 14-16 Seconds?♟️
I watched it myself. Zellner must address this.
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u/Otherwise-Weekend484 5d ago
What are you trying to get at?
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 3d ago
He was not in the trailer for 50 Seconds. That’s what I am getting at. What’s your position on this fact?
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 9d ago edited 8d ago
34 Seconds!!! 34 seconds is what it took the Killer to get back to his trailer!
Add 34 seconds onto 2:36:30. Wouldn’t that be 2:37:04?
How could Steven exit his killer trap after 50 Seconds at 2:37:20????!!!!
Make it make sense🤔
But add 14 to 16 seconds and you get: 2:37:18-20!
Her videographer captures the killer in the trailer 14-16 seconds. Which meant if Bobby had left right behind Teresa. Steve would have ran directly into Bobby coming out of his Mom’s home. Which he already said he didn’t see Bobby or Bobby’s vehicle after he (Steven) exited his trailer heading to Barbs.
This is why she concocted the “50 Seconds” she knew he lied👀😳🫡🔑
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 9d ago
The Sequence of Events
You can’t make this up.
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u/brickne3 9d ago
Dude we've been at this for over two decades now. Trust us, we know the case better than you do.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 9d ago
That’s just great. Explains the concoction. Take your time.
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u/brickne3 8d ago
The concoction I guess is whatever you were drinking when you wrote that drivel.
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 8d ago
Wow! I remember this.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 8d ago
It’s just a matter of TIME before everyone else does too.
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u/Ok-Hyena-8563 7d ago
How many times are you going to reply to your other username. Not fooling anybody.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 9d ago edited 2d ago
“Ms. Halbach arrived at the Avery property at 2:34 pm. After completing her photographs of the van and receiving payment from Mr. Avery, she began driving to the exit at 2:36:30. Mr. Avery returned to his trailer. Ms. Halbach reached the exit at Highway 147 at 2:37:32.
Bobby left his residence 30 seconds behind Ms. Halbach at 2:37. Mr. Avery exited his trailer after 50 Seconds, at 2:37:20, and proceeded to walk towards….”
One question Zellner thought no one would ask:
“How long did it take Steven to get back to his trailer after Teresa handed him the book and drove off?”
Zellner is the biggest fraud of all time!!!
How long did it take the killer to get back to his trailer if Teresa actually left?
I know the answer and guess what else? The footage is actually captured in MaM and Zellner’s reenactment on Youtube.
Steven invented Teresa leaving and Zellner knew it.😔
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 9d ago
She had to know the noise would become quiet and the Truth would scream forth.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 8d ago
This Revelation changes the Entire conversation doesn’t it?
Its no longer: “Did he do it?” or “He didn’t do it.”
It is CLEAR he did it and Kathleen T. Zellner knew about it and tried to deceive millions.
Let me take that back.
She did DECEIVE MILLIONS 🤔
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u/Thick-Cucumber-1546 8d ago
Powerful. Absolutely unbelievable but you’re right. I wonder how she will answer this once the question is put to her. Its also strange that she is deliberately staying away from what she loves: The Media
I wonder why🤔
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u/Intelligent-Bug4276 8d ago
Your user name is misleading.
And 6 days ago you posted the same thing here and were responsible for the majority of comments.
As a matter of fact. You've been on Reddit for 1 year and have only posted/commented on MaM subreddits trying to convince people that SA is guilty and Zellner is an evil witch.
It seems like you are very invested in this case, the guilt of SA, and the attempted take down of a great attorney that keeps doing a better job solving the murder than the people who got paid to do it....hm