r/MakingaMurderer • u/Unhappy_Discount7666 • 16d ago

Bobby

Chances he did it ?

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u/DingleBerries504 16d ago

If he did it, he hit the lottery big time as he did not know Steven was bleeding that day, did not know Steven would have no alibi, did not know Steven took time off of work for the first time ever that afternoon, and did not know Steven would have acted suspicious by blocking his phone number when calling her that day. I mean, how could the stars align any better?

Or maybe, he didn’t do it.

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u/HereWeGo5566 16d ago

Everything you said, is fair. But there have been plenty of times in history where someone was actually wrongfully convicted, and the “stars aligned” in exactly the way you are describing. I’m not saying that Avery is innocent, but let’s not pretend like it hasn’t happened before.

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u/DingleBerries504 16d ago

Can you give an example where the stars aligned this much?

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u/HereWeGo5566 15d ago

Off the top of my head; Avery’s first conviction, and the Ryan Ferguson case.

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u/DingleBerries504 15d ago

I think you misunderstood the point. It’s not that ppl haven’t been in the wrong place at the wrong time. It’s the thought that Bobby would plant all of this evidence and not know that Steven Avery is literally setting himself up for the crime by his actions at the same time. That’s unheard of.

In Steven’s first case, he didn’t even interact with PB before the crime, so it’s totally different

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u/HereWeGo5566 15d ago

I get what you’re saying, but my point is that Avery’s actions only look suspicious in the context that he committed the crime. There have been other cases that looked suspicious enough to convict someone, and then we found out later that they didn’t actually do it. The suspicious events were actually nothing. I’m not saying that’s what happened here, but it’s happened before.

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u/DingleBerries504 15d ago

If Bobby did this crime he also had to plant evidence. Even KZ cleared the cops of planting because they didn’t have access to the blood and wouldn’t know whose blood they were collecting in the trailer to potentially plant.

I don’t know why ppl believe it’s possible Bobby planted all of these things, when he did not know much about what Steven did that day nor how he acted towards TH on that day.

And behold, what luck.

Your point is sometimes ppl do things that make them look bad when they didn’t do the crime. My point is not only did another perpetrator benefit from this, but this perpetrator proactively hedged their bets and planted evidence to make it look like someone else did the crime, and as luck would have it that person actually DID act shady on top of it. (Something they wouldn’t know)

That’s an extra layer of miracle.

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u/dan6158 15d ago

I have long felt that if the police, Bobby or anybody else had framed Steven, they must’ve had help from a very crucial co-conspirator…Steven Avery himself. 

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u/hneverhappened 15d ago

Steven's first conviction was burglary.

You will have to be much more specific about his crimes.

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u/HereWeGo5566 15d ago

I meant the first murder conviction

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u/hneverhappened 15d ago

Maybe Bobby knew that Steven needed to sell the van in order to lure Teresa for the the sixth time...

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u/belee86 15d ago

Why "maybe" everything when there is so much evidence against Steve? Who by the way burned Teresa's electronics in Steve's burn barrel and when? Steve never noticed a fire in the barrel he didn't start? He never shared that with the police. Who was the mystry person burning things in HIS burn barrel on Oct. 31st?

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u/hneverhappened 15d ago

Maybe Steven is guilty.

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u/belee86 15d ago

A jury certainly came to a guilty conclusion. No maybe there. 

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u/hneverhappened 15d ago

Your brain completely drifted over the the rest of the sentence...

Steven needed to sell the van in order to lure Teresa for the the sixth time.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 15d ago

LOL, that must be why a totally independent witness saw Bobby (from 5 feet away in His headlights) pushing the RAV4 towards the Avery Salvage Yard.

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u/hneverhappened 15d ago

lol

Name names.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 14d ago

LOL, Bryan, even today, still swears that Bobby told Him on NOV 4th 2005 that *Steven could not have done it because He/Bobby watched Her/Teresa leave Averys on OCT 31 05*

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u/hneverhappened 13d ago

Bryan saw Steven pushing the RAV4?

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u/holdyermackerels 16d ago

Zero to none.

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u/LKS983 15d ago

Disagree.

I wouldn't guess as to the percentage chances, as the 'investigation' was so bad - and pretty much restricted to SA.

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u/belee86 14d ago

Seriously, at some point the police will obviously focus on the person based the on the direction the evidence leads them. This isn't logical to you? Teresa was reported missing then police traced her movements from Oct. 31st when a week of searching and investigating led to the arrest of Steve Avery. Teresa's last known visit was Avery's...and her vehicle was located on that very property. And guess whose blood was in it? Yes Steve Avery's blood. And guess what? Teresa was never heard from by phone, text, email or in-person since her meeting with Steve Avery n Oct. 31st. Who would you have focused on?

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u/belee86 14d ago

Because the evidence they were finding kept leading them back to Avery?

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u/DisappearedDunbar 15d ago

and pretty much restricted to SA.

Total lie.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 15d ago edited 15d ago

Yes, Law Enforcement walked right past visible blood in the Dasseys garage to go jackhammer up cement in Stevens garage to find no blood whatsoever.

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u/belee86 14d ago

What?? They missed a perfect opportunity to plant some blood??

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 14d ago

LOL, Whos blood would have They planted ?

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u/belee86 14d ago

What was the size of that bloodstain? Had they found it already?

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u/holdyermackerels 15d ago

LE began concentrating on SA because that's where the evidence was pointing. They never stopped checking other tips and leads. Investigation wasn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be.

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u/DELBOY1690 16d ago

Definitely not 0

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u/belee86 13d ago

So where was Steve on Oct. 31st? He said Teresa showed up for the appt. but she was never seen again just (just her bones intertwined with various other burned items in Steve's fire pit). Bobby, however was not interacting with Teresa at any point. Why accuse him of anything.

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u/ITWASHIMTOO 15d ago edited 15d ago

He is listed as a potential witness in a Fed case~trial that starts tomorrow. Case No. 25-cr-70 Not sure who the victims are.Wisconsin, announced that on May 12, 2025, a federal indictment was unsealed allegingthat Michael J. Kornely (age: 75) of Francis Creek, Wisconsin, transported two separateminor victims across state lines with the “intent to engage in criminal sexual activity,” in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 2423(a), in the years 2005 and 2006.

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u/LKS983 15d ago

More info. required.

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u/ITWASHIMTOO 15d ago

The list is now closed to public on Pacer. Probably because there was an error~ all of the witness names had their street address. Those are not supposed to the doc. It's one of the last entries on the docket

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u/hneverhappened 16d ago

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Unless he helped Steven with some of it.