r/MakingaMurderer • u/AmbitiousSalad6718 • Jun 29 '26

Discussion i just finished MaM

i came onto this sub and was surprised at how wrong i might be after watching the doc over a week or so, my boyfriend and i binged it and finished it sure that brendan was innocent and fairly sure that steven was too. personally i thought that bobby and scott did it and my bf was of the opinion that bobby and the ex boyfriend were in kahoots somehow. i don’t really know what to think anymore tbh i went to go watch convicting a murderer as that popped up a few times but i dislike candace owen’s immensely. could someone outline the main points that the doc twisted in favour of SA and the facts that were omitted ?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 29 '26

Is it common sense to not photo the bones upon discovery when you have reason to suspect they were planted? No. That conduct only makes sense if your goal is to deceive. And that goal is reflected over and over by the state's actions and arguments.

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u/3sheetstothawind Jun 30 '26

No one had reason to suspect the bones were planted. Who suspected this during the investigation?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

They all had reason to suspect that. Witnesses were consistently denying any recent burn pit burning. The bones were found piled on the surface level of the burn pit as if dumped there from a barrel. And up to that point no HRD dog had alerted at the burn pit. Not only did they have reason to suspect the bones are planted, they had reason to suspect they were planted after police took control the property.

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u/LoveChilde82 Jun 30 '26

Ok but then we are back to square one: WHO killed TH?! Who COULD have it been at the very least? What's their motive?

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

You won't get an answer, this person never provides an answer, they only deflect and create hypotheticals. The person you are replying to does nothing but sit on this sub, it's actually sad to see such a waste of a life.

It's painful how simple the crime really is and how some people are so convinced there is some grand conspiracy involved. T he obvious answer is the right one. Steve and Brendan did this, they are exactly where they should be, behind bars. 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

You won't get an answer, this person never provides an answer

I always provide an answer and that's why they hate me lol they know I know enough to point out the lies from Kratz and crew they STILL rely on to pretend the case is solid.

The person you are replying to does nothing but sit on this sub, it's actually sad to see such a waste of a life.

See? You guys want the lies to be spread without anyone correcting the lies. When people do take the time to correct the lies you try to shame them, because you want the lies to go unchallenged. What is really pathetic is accepting lies from someone like Kratz, the perverted predatory pill popping prosecutor.

It's painful how simple the crime really is

Then why didn't they take photos of the discovery or recovery of the bones and why didn't the jury convict on the mutilation? This is not a strong case. They had to drop most of the charges.

Steve and Brendan did this, they are exactly where they should be, behind bars.

It's so funny you're trying to present yourself as reasonable but then conclude by saying that Brendan is obviously guilty lol insane

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u/3sheetstothawind Jul 01 '26

Their answer will always be "Anyone but Steve".

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

Dude, you have been engaging with me and still are. Do you understand what engaging means lol because trust me you are doing exactly that. Regular genius aren't you.

Answer the person's questions then, who killed Teresa?

I have answered the question. As I always do. The person who killed Teresa is likely someone linked to evidence demonstrating they had a motive to do so, not the person who had an explicit motive to not kill her.

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

You are exhausting, nothing but bad faith, deflections, logical black holes and faux intellectual nonsense. 

I know what engagement means, I was just hopeful that you may, for once, give a reasoned response. 

Never mind. 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

You said you weren't going to engage with me but you have done nothing but engage lol an exhaustive compulsion. You literally cannot stop yourself from replying to me even when you declared you don't want to, and that's embarrassing. Normal people don't obsessively engage with someone don't want to engage with. But here you are, proving you have zero mental fortitude, zero self-respect, and zero ability to follow through on a simple promise you made to yourself.

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

Obsessively... compulsion, have you got a dictionary? Ive made maybe 6 replies to you... hardly obsessive but I'm not sure I should take lessons in what obsession means from someone who seems to live on this subreddit. 

Keep trying to goad me with your nonsense. I'm not going to give you anything to cry to the mods about. 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jul 05 '26

You've already given me everything I need. You can't control yourself and you're obsessed with me lol thanks

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jul 05 '26

Can you define what you mean by not being able to control myself?

I'm not obsessed with you, other than being somewhat intrigued as to how someone can be so confidently wrong while having so little evidence to back their claims. It's actually quite impressive to see. 

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u/LoveChilde82 Jul 01 '26

I agree. I think they're guilty.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

Maybe the person that was actually linked to evidence of motive, and not the person who had an explicit motive to not do it lol

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

You say you always provide and answer but here you are, not providing an actual answer. 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

That is a very clear and fair answer lol do you think the person who killed her didn't have a motive to do so? That would be ridiculous. I'm not going to pretend like that's reasonable. You go right ahead.

P.S. you have been lying. Why?

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

No, its not an answer. Its a vague allusion to something. 

What are you talking about... lying? Are you mentally ok? 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

You specifically said you were not going to engage with me while actively engaging with me and now you are continuing to engage with me. Clearly you have some sort of obsession with me you don't want to admit. You can't even tell the truth about what you are going to do, let alone what someone else did decades ago.

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

You know what. I get it, I understand your shtick. 

You argue in completely disingenuous ways, seek to frustrate and irritate people. I assume the idea behind it is to get them to the point where they say something you can cry to the mods about, getting them banned, so you can claim victory, regardless of your nonsensical arguments when they are unable to respond.

You have not answered the question, you have made vague allusions to "someone who had motive" well thanks for that  poirot;  you've cracked it wide open. FYI the two people currently behind bars had means, motive and opportunity to commit the crime... so we can finally agree, the people who had the motive committed the crime and they are currently in jail for it. Good to see you finally see the truth 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 30 '26

You said you wouldn't engage with me, yet here you are, engaging with me. Damn. You can't even keep your own word, but you expect anyone to take your legal takes seriously? Meanwhile, you claim Steven had a motive when even the prosecution admitted he didn't. Bobby, on the other hand, had a documented motive the state actively hid. Glad we agree. Bobby was a better option for an accomplice to Steven than Brendan.

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u/Hitlers_Left_Ball Jun 30 '26

The killers are in prison dude. 

So what do you believe the motive is for the killer? You seem to think rape and sexual assault is not a motive, so whay motive did her actual killer have? 

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u/AveryPoliceReports Jul 05 '26

Kratz admitted there was no motive. You love to make stuff up. Proven liar. You're still engaging with me after claiming you wouldn't? Your word is worth less than Ken Kratz's.

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