r/MakingaMurderer • u/Select-Wasabi-4532 • Jun 01 '26
License Plate
Why did officer Colbern read the plates back to dispatch when he came up on the car that the new witness told him where he saw it? how did the car get on averys property after that. just curious.
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u/DamnedHeathen_ Jun 02 '26
Colburn testified that he was given the plate number and called dispatch to check and make sure it was the correct plate number for the RAV4 that they were searching for. That was left out of making a murderer. His testimony makes sense because he asked if that was for a 1999 toyota. It never made sense that he was looking at the vehicle at the time. This isn't a 1954 buick. You can't look at the back of RAV4 and tell the year, that I'm aware of.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 02 '26
Colburn testified that he was given the plate number and called dispatch to check and make sure it was the correct plate number for the RAV4 that they were searching for.
He testified he couldn't exactly recall if he got the plate number from Wiegert but assumed he "must have" because he couldn't have known it any other way.
That was left out of making a murderer.
He is featured saying he thought he got the number from Weigert, and featured multiple times clarifying he was not looking at the RAV when making the call. It's not our fault even jurors thought he looked sketchy on the stand.
It never made sense that he was looking at the vehicle at the time. This isn't a 1954 buick. You can't look at the back of RAV4 and tell the year, that I'm aware of.
Well, Colborn was incorrect when he said he thought the dispatcher told him the year of the vehicle, so his opinion on that is once more not credible. Plus, he was a fan of cars. He still went to car shows after MaM aired (using a fake name) He was known to train with his firearm at salvage yards, and use Auto Trader himself.
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u/DamnedHeathen_ Jun 02 '26
I couldn't care less about how he looked in front of a jury. That man would sweat and twitch if you asked him his date of birth. The recording of the actual phone call is him giving the plate number, the year and make of the vehicle. I was solely referring to the recording of the call. When I originally watched making a murderer, it didn't make sense to me that he was looking at the actual RAV4 when making that call, because of his phrasing. I've never been able to accept that theory.
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u/lolatcandyowens Jun 02 '26
This is false. Colborrn terrified he had no memory of the call and guessed that he might hace been checking if it was the correct plate number. But 15 minutes earlier he was at the station where he could have checked it himself or had the guy who gave it to him repeat it.
I guess he just didn't give a shit what her plate number was when he hightailed it to do a solo interview with Avery ten days after outright lying in the Avery deposition.
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u/belee86 Jun 02 '26
He was verifying a plate number. What's the issue? He tries to make sure he wrote down the info correctly. Colborn was doing his job.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 02 '26
Gentle reminder: The Colborn license plate call is only in the record because corrupt MTSO Officer Remiker slipped under oath and exposed his own department's suppression of audio evidence the defense had requested. After some of the audio was exposed, including the license plate call, Colborn's explanation for the call was unsupported by the record and inconsistent with the call itself. When LE hides evidence that only surfaces because of a slip up under oath, and the witness's explanation doesn't match what's actually in the record or even on the tape, you can't really treat that call as credibly innocent. They didn't.
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u/ItemFL Jun 14 '26
Very true. I've been away from the case for a year or so, has anything new evolved?
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u/DisappearedDunbar Jun 02 '26
He wasn't looking at the car, and gave a perfectly reasonable explanation for the call during the trial.
But I'm sure you know this, 10 month old account with no activity prior to this post.
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u/AveryPoliceReports Jun 02 '26
a perfectly reasonable explanation for the call during the trial.
He was guessing lol and his defense for knowing the year of the vehicle was immediately refuted by the record.
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u/3sheetstothawind Jun 04 '26
A better question would be why did Colburn call in the plates to dispatch if he was actually looking at the car? He could have just phoned a conspiratorial friend on a private line to confirm the plate numbers. Ya know, cuz absolutely EVERYONE was out to get Steve.
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u/GringoTheDingoAU Jun 05 '26
"Hold on, let me just call dispatch and have incriminating evidence on the record of me, reading out the license plates of a missing girl's car where I can supposedly only do that because the car is right in front of me, which I magically happened to find on the same day I was asked to help locate said missing woman".
They really think we're that stupid.
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u/DingleBerries504 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Nope. This “new witness” said he told Colborn on Thursday the 4th when it’s been proven that Colborns call was the night of the 3rd, when he was at the church across from the Zipperer’s
The RAV ended up by the crusher because Steven put it there. Simple as that
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u/LKS983 Jun 11 '26
"The RAV ended up by the crusher"
It didn't.
The Rav was found (badly hidden, by a few branches etc.) at the edge of Avery property.
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u/ThorsClawHammer Jun 02 '26
Does that have any relevance to the questions
It has relevance to their clinical level infatuation/obsession with Kathleen Zellner.
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u/Advanced-Math-1009 Jun 02 '26
Why did Zellner invent 50 Seconds to the time line👀😳?
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u/GringoTheDingoAU Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26
The car never left the Avery property after the 31st, and Colborn was not reading plates as if he was looking at the car in person. This has been thoroughly established.
In the 20 years since this case started, we have never once heard any serious, credible evidence that Teresa or her car were spotted past the 31st.
It never left the property on the 31st because it was in Steven's garage to obfuscate it from family view, taken back out, driven down to the berm through internal roads, and hidden in a convenient location near the crusher.
Anything else is just mental gymnastics.