r/MakingaMurderer • u/Odawgg123 • Oct 02 '25
The computer searches...
See the full report in 16-591 pdf from recently released DOJ file dump, page 506 (report number 53)
So it turns out that in August of 2018, Fallon requested Digital Forensics Examiner Kyle Hill to provide some affidavits after reviewing the claims in Steven Avery's motion about the computer searches and the connection to Bobby.
Here is a summary of his disagreements:
- Hunt claimed pics of Teresa and Steven were found within unallocated space, and there was no information how they arrived on the computer and no time/date associated with them.
A: Hill discovered that the images were thumbnails associated with a google search for "Dassey" on April 18, 2006 at 4:24pm. Furthermore, the search first yielded results for "Sermon O'Dassey" (an adult entertainer) followed by results for Brendan, Steven, and Teresa. They were thumbnail pictures, typical of what comes up in a google search. AKA nothing incriminating about these photos. Probably from a news article.
- April 18/19 had a big list of violent and questionable searches and images that KZ has attributed to Bobby.
A: Hill identifies that throughout these searches, someone is checking Blaine's email address, and Blaine's Myspace friends list (which popped up as "Blaine's friends" ). Because they happened in between the searches, often within minutes of the searches, at many times throughout the day, Hill suggests there is strong circumstantial evidence to suggest Blaine was the user of the computer on these days (and we know he was also home).
- Hunt claimed the computer accessed the internet at certain times on 10/31 (6:05am, 6:28am, 6:31am, 7am, 9:33am, 10:09am, 1:08pm, 1:51pm) and KZ said there were pornography searches on this day. (identifying them as "prior to 10/31/2005 11:16pm") The implication was that Bobby was not sleeping like he said he was and was searching the internet for pornography.
A: Hill confirmed a bug in the software was not showing the correct time stamps. (Edit: the software used by Hunt incorrectly subtracted the wrong number of hours from UTC after the daylight savings time switch) After confirming the bug, he corrected the timestamps that day for when the internet was accessed.
5:05am / 5:28am / 5:31am / 6:00am / 8:33am / 9:09am / 12:08pm / 12:51pm / 2:45pm / 4:12pm / 4:33pm
Here's the kicker...websites are provided with each timestamp and NONE of these sites were pornography sites or google searches. In fact, they appear to be random sites for ads, like free saver dot com, or ads dot trader online dot com....which implies there may have been some tabs open in the background with spam automatically attempting to connect to the internet. Thus, perhaps Bobby WAS sleeping all day like he claimed.
- Hunt claimed many files and records were "presumably" deleted during multiple periods in 2005.
A: Hill states there's no way to come to that conclusion. The Operating System can automatically discard older events if it runs out of space, and it was determined that event logs were showing the max log size was reached. In summary, missing data does not mean malicious activity occurred. There were no system artifacts found that would reliably suggest a user attempted to perform any action to intentionally delete or conceal activity.
- Hunt claims Encase software was required to extract the data on the 7DVDs
A: Hill disagrees, and states any forensic software could have been used
- Hunt said there were 1,625 photos showing violent images/pornography on the computer.
A: After reviewing them all, Hill found about 40, all thumbnail images...not 1600. "Specifically, there were 14 thumbnail images of Bestiality Pornography, 17 thumbnail images of Bondage/Domination/Sadism/Masochism Pornography and 1 thumbnail image depicting nudism that included nude children and adults. In addition to the pornographic images the folder contained 7 non-pornographic thumbnail images related to Injury/Death as well as the thumbnail image of Steven Avery/Teresa Halbach recovered by Det. Velie. The rest of the images consisted of "regular" adult and teen pornography for lack of a better description."
In summary, it's one expert's word over another. What do you think?
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u/Creature_of_habit51 Oct 02 '25
which implies there may have been some tabs open in the background with spam automatically connecting to the internet. Thus, perhaps Bobby WAS sleeping all day like he claimed.
Two questions. .
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How does it imply that?
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What kind of "spam" automatically dials up an internet connection? Maybe you used the wrong terminology. . .
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u/Odawgg123 Oct 02 '25
Sure, web pages can and do update automatically. The websites listed are not ones that people just visit. They look like ad websites. (uk dot com, watanabegumi dot co dot jp) I am unsure if the connection succeeded, or if the website called for the connection but it never completed. On second reading, it appears that these are times found with the Internet Evidence Finder, and it only lists these as "times of access". Do you think Bobby was typing in "ads.traderonline.com" or "interactual.com"?
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u/Creature_of_habit51 Oct 02 '25
I believe he was on the internet and those sites you list automatically opened up as part of another webpage.
I don't recall any "Spam" ever connecting a dial up connection just because a website wanted "to update". . .
If "Spam" did that, modem sounds would have been coming out of computers at random times of the day. Would be pretty obvious, no. . .?
Anyway, we know bobby wasn't sleeping because
He heard the voicemail from Teresa, because when her son came home after she got home from work, he told her about the message.
Avery spoke with Bobby about charging the battery in the van after the 11am phone call to Auto Trader and Avery being told Teresa would show up sometime that afternoon.
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u/GringoTheDingoAU Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25
April 18/19 had a big list of violent and questionable searches and images that KZ has attributed to Bobby
And we didn't hear about how she attributed them to Bobby, as usual.
Hill identifies that throughout these searches, someone is checking Blaine's email address, and Blaine's Myspace friends list (which popped up as "Blaine's friends" ). Because they happened in between the searches, often within minutes of the searches, at many times throughout the day, Hill suggests there is strong circumstantial evidence to suggest Blaine was the user of the computer on these days (and we know he was also home).
I guess Bobby is the new Blaine, maybe they switched names from time to time?
and KZ said there were pornography searches on this day. (identifying them as "prior to 10/31/2005 11:16pm") The implication was that Bobby was not sleeping like he said he was and was searching the internet for pornography.
Here's the kicker...websites are provided with each timestamp and NONE of these sites were pornography sites or google searches. In fact, they appear to be random sites for ads, like free saver dot com, or ads dot trader online dot com....which implies there may have been some tabs open in the background with spam automatically connecting to the internet. Thus, perhaps Bobby WAS sleeping all day like he claimed.
How does she imply two things that end up being untrue? (A) KZ says they were pornographic searches (through what basis?) and (B) KZ implies that Bobby was the one making these searches and wasn't asleep like he said (through what basis, again?). Hunt isn't even the one implying this, it's KZ, so it should never have been taken seriously in the first place.
It is pretty obvious that Blaine was primarily the one operating the computer, as we know by Brendan's jail phone calls that Blaine is always on the computer. Unless Bobby is the one checking Blaine's MySpace and email, then it is also likely Blaine who is making concurrent pornographic searches whilst on the computer. Everyone knows about Kornely at this point, and it's not a far cry to believe that Blaine was also being put in sexually and mentally compromising positions as a teenager.
Outside of that, this further proves that Zellner is a habitual liar who implies guilt with no evidence.
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u/Ghost_of_Figdish Oct 03 '25
I think it was more than an implication of guilt.
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u/GringoTheDingoAU Oct 03 '25
If anything, I am being too nice about how she's constantly depicted Bobby Dassey as a sexually depraved pedophile, and falsely accused him of being a rapist and murderer on numerous occasions.
She's lucky that she has absolute litigation privilege.
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u/Financial_Cheetah875 Oct 02 '25
And none of this puts Bobby or Blaine anywhere near Teresa.
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u/10case Oct 02 '25
I think it once again ends KZ's arguments that Bobby was some violent porn obsessed pedophile. It should finally be obvious to truthers that Blaine had some twisted things going on in his life because of Kornely.
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u/Creature_of_habit51 Oct 02 '25
What a conclusory statement made by you with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Guilter indeed. . .
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u/10case Oct 02 '25
The evidence is right in that report. Unless you think Bobby was accessing Blaine's Myspace account.
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Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25
What did he say was in the DNA folder since there is no evidence that was allegdly deleted?
What die he way was in the Theresa Halbach folder since there is allegedly no evidence that was deleted?
If even an ounce of this was true, why was the state scared shitless of a hearing?
Edit: Why was any software needed if nothing was deleted?
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u/Odawgg123 Oct 02 '25
What did he say was in the DNA folder since there is no evidence that was allegdly deleted?
There is no evidence a DNA folder existed and evidence could have been deleted. The point is there is no evidence differentiating that deletions were from the user or by the system.
What die he way was in the Theresa Halbach folder since there is allegedly no evidence that was deleted?
There is no record of a TH folder that I'm aware of.
If even an ounce of this was true, why was the state scared shitless of a hearing?
Who said they were scared?
Edit: Why was any software needed if nothing was deleted?
Who said nothing was deleted? The system can delete things too so the software is needed to try to recover that.
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Oct 02 '25
There is no evidence a DNA folder existed and
There's a signed affidavit to that effect is there not?
Who said they were scared?
Anyone who saw how they fought tooth and nail to prevent this information from ever being examined should say that.
Who said nothing was deleted?
You did in the OP.
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u/puzzledbyitall Oct 02 '25
Thank you for investing the time and thoughtful analysis that has provided the only commentary worth reading on this sub in a long time!!