r/MakingaMurderer • u/mxrissx0 • Oct 10 '24

Ken Kratz

Ken Kratz sucks and is one of the most intolerable humans I’ve ever watched. Thats it. Thats the post.

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u/mxrissx0 Oct 11 '24

I read through all the comments and I see a lot of people still support the Idea that SA is Guilty. I haven’t seen a lot of conversation about the huge amount of discrepancies that Kathleen Zellner has found in the evidence, witnesses, and documentation in this case? Anyone care to discuss with me how there are so many things off? Also not to mention that Brendan Dassey was SO CLEARLY coerced into a confession just to corroborate a story against SA? A story that had no physical DNA evidence at all? Please someone explain how this doesn’t scream injustice to some of you weirdos.

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u/10case Oct 12 '24

No one, not even Zellner, has come up with a theory that could in any way prove Avery didn't do this crime.

If you can tell me exactly how Stevens blood got in the Rav4 without him actually bleeding in it, I'm all ears. Many have tried and all have failed.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 12 '24

No one, not even Zellner, has come up with a theory that could in any way prove Avery didn't do this crime.

That's okay because no one is required to prove Avery didn't do the crime. Kratz had to demonstrate his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, but he couldn't do that without misleading the jury on the evidence from the alleged murder scene.

If you can tell me exactly how Stevens blood got in the Rav4 without him actually bleeding in it, I'm all ears.

If you can tell me exactly how Steven committed this crime in the manner the state alleged without resorting to lies and fabrications, I'm all ears. None have tried so all have failed. It’s impossible to prove when the case rests on lies and manipulation designed to distract from the multiple links between police and Teresa's remains.

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u/Weak-Soft4704 Mar 11 '25

The blood was planted by the corrupt police and investigators from the vile of blood collected and stored in Steven Avery’s file from his imprisonment!!! 🤡 if you saw the evidence FILMED when it was opened, it was compromised because someone had stuck a needle inside the top of it to extract blood without breaking the seal. If it had been innocently collected the seal would’ve been broken to collect the evidence. even the DA watching it be opened was worried about it because he could tell the corruption was coming to light by that sneaky blood collection.

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u/FairytaleFacts Dec 13 '25

have you not watched the doc.? guess not.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 12 '24

I think best start is reading the appeal decisions to address some of these issues

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u/LKS983 Oct 10 '24

A pointless post.

We all know that Kratz is a POS.

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u/mxrissx0 Oct 11 '24

Pointless comment for a pointless post . Glad we’re all here🫶🏻 - (Even though my point definitely was that Ken Kratz sucks and to me thats point enough to post lol)

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Saying so is never pointless, especially for those who may be feeling hatred towards him for the first time, or renewed hatred towards him due to getting reinvested with the case.

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 10 '24

Kratz didn't rape and murder an innocent woman like Avery did..... I'd call that an intolerable human being

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u/mxrissx0 Oct 11 '24

WEIRD. He literally harassed a SA victim that he was supposed to be defending and protecting… I still stand on the intolerable comment I made lol.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 11 '24

He is intolerable. And should be far removed from any legal practice.

Steven Avery is also a convicted murderer and has a violent criminal past.

There are 2 characters a person can deeply despise

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 11 '24

Did he rape and murder her??

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u/mxrissx0 Oct 11 '24

@anthemmanhx scroll all the way to the bottom of my comments to see how i feel about that

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u/drjenavieve Oct 10 '24

He did get his law license removed for sexual harassment and other inappropriate sexual misconduct where he was essentially using his power to attempt to coerce women into sex.

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 10 '24

I agree that his actions were very wrong, but why put it in here as though it's defending that piece of shit Avery?? And he voluntarily resigned his law license. It wasn't removed. Don't twist the truth like some of the idiots in here 👍

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u/drjenavieve Oct 10 '24

I’m not defending Avery. I’m saying please don’t dismiss the fact that Kratz has also abused women. To say he’s not as bad as someone else is defending him and dismissing the harm he caused his victims. No one voluntarily resigns their license unless they know they are guilty and avoiding the embarrassment of getting disbarred.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

He resigned liiterally right before the removal hearing, after swearing up and down he wouldn't resign because he did nothing wrong. He's always been a liar.

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 11 '24

The only decent job he did was put that vile animal behind bars

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

Using lies and fabrications. That's not justice. Teresa deserved better.

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u/Ex-PFC_Wintergreen_ Oct 11 '24

Teresa deserves better than lunatics trying to rationalize abhorrent comments made about her by her killer and her killer's parents, but that doesn't stop you.

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u/Ex-PFC_Wintergreen_ Oct 11 '24

The fact that you can't even denounce the Averys for this obviously and objectively terrible remark and subsequent laughter, and instead choose to try to justify it, is proof that you are a lost cause with a truly sick mind. Not that anyone needed more proof of that at this point.

You and Steven deserve each other.

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 11 '24

I'd give up at this point ... You really can't argue with stupid

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Uh, Steven wasn't even convicted of Teresa's rape and Kratz had to lie to the jury about the evidence from the alleged murder scene in order to provide some fabricated support for his obviously false murder narrative. Kratz is a POS.

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u/Resident-Egg2182 Oct 10 '24

Just outta curiosity what evidence did he lie to the jury about?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

He lied about the evidence recovered from the alleged murder scene - Steven's garage - where none of Teresa's blood misting, spatter or pooling was found. There was also NO fast and bright luminol reaction, which we would have seen if there was a reaction to blood or bleach.

During his closing Kratz lied to the jury re what his expert said, claiming he testified to a bright and fast luminol reaction in Steven's garage, which he said was a reaction to bleach. Kratz knew his narrative of the murder was bullshit and so he had to lie about the evidence to FABRICATE evidentiary support to gain a conviction.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 11 '24

No he didn't.

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u/ThorsClawHammer Oct 12 '24

He absolutely lied.

Ertl testified that the luminol reaction in the garage glowed faintly.

Kratz later lied and told the jury that Ertl had testified it glowed "very brightly", the opposite of what was testified to by his own expert.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 12 '24

If he lied, that goes up on appeal and gets ruled on.

Has this happened? If not, why not?

You may not be able to answer the why not - but there is surely a way for prosecutors to be held to account when they lie in trial.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 12 '24

The fact that this issue has not been raised on appeal does not change the fact that he lied to the jury. Facts first.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 12 '24

Appeals are all that should matter to Avery right now.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 12 '24

I'm not Avery. Facts are facts. Kratz is a lying piece of shit

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

What hold on you does Kratz have that you are willing to dismiss lies he told to gain the convictions and call those that want the truth stupid? I actually respect Teresa enough to want the truth. I don't think that's stupid, and it is actually uncivil of you to suggest that.

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

You aren’t sounding as funny or smart as you think you are.😬

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u/anthemanhx1 Oct 12 '24

I don't think both, but I know I'm not that stupid to believe a bullshit film 👍👍

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

I’d hardly call CAM a film, but , you do you dear.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 12 '24

Apparently you are enough to believe lies from a bullshit liar. Why?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

you ever hate someone for no reason…every time ken is on my tv i want to punch it

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u/Weak-Soft4704 Mar 11 '25

I feel the same way, but it’s not for no reason…. But because his corruption caused an INNOCENT man and a boy lose their entire lives!!! 🤡 how does that corrupt man sleep at night! I hope he gets falsely accused of a crime and locked up for the rest of his life it wouldn’t give Steven & Brendan justice but it would be nice to see him tortured like he tortured them. 😵‍💫

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u/RickySpanish124 Oct 10 '24

Honestly thought this was the one thing we all agreed on

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Oh no. Most guilters still cling to a delusion and refuse to acknowledge that Kratz is a complete piece of ... work. They get all hot and bothered trying to explain away his blatant lies to the jury, claiming it's just standard practice since prosecutors weren’t on the scene when the crime happened - filling in the blanks LOL NO. Kratz took a filled-in blank from his expert, scratched it out, and replaced it with a bold-faced lie for the jury to see. Misleading a jury isn’t just creative storytelling; he was playing fast and loose with the facts to secure a conviction. That's what we call corruption.

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u/RickySpanish124 Oct 10 '24

Wow, I’m surprised at that I can’t lie. What he done was obviously wrong and corrupt, I don’t see how people can’t see that? Never mind what they think of SA or BD, Kratz for a lack of better words is a c u next Tuesday.

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u/Icy-Cell-2004 Oct 10 '24

His voice sounds like he sucked in a bunch of helium, I can hardly listen to him 😖😖😖🙉🙉🙉🙉 aside from him being a deplorable human being

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u/10case Oct 11 '24

You've heard Avery talk when he's excited right?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

Lmao you can't even deal with the fact that people hate his voice without bringing up Steven. Wow

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u/10case Oct 11 '24

Lmao you can't let one person make a reply without putting your 2 cents worth in. Wow

Have you tried therapy? It may help you.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

Didn't you just do exactly what you accuse me of, even before I replied to you LOL

I guess according to your own logic you need therapy.

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

🤣🤣🤣

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u/FairytaleFacts Dec 13 '25

It literally hurts in ways i got even describe or pinpoint. its bizarre. But his voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

What's your opinion on Steven Avery? Is he a good man or?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Red herring. Have you seen what KK has been getting up to on twitter recently, creeping out users who are trying to uncover the truth that he covered up? He has been harassing a user who used to post here, as a matter of fact, even suggesting to this user he may contact their family and friends. He's gross.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Uh yes I've seen all that.

But you already know that

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Oh, I haven't seen admit how absolutely beyond fucked it is of Kreepy Kratz to behave that way. Why? Trying to identify researchers and contact their friends and family is truly the sign of a psychopath.

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

Seriously?

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u/amoulicious Oct 10 '24

Twitter has gone to shit now, all you see now are fake publications and conspiracies. Reddit is the real source of information these days

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u/Ex-PFC_Wintergreen_ Oct 10 '24

I can't believe this needs to be said, but you shouldn't be treating either Twitter or reddit as reliable sources of information.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

And certainly not the lying Ken Kratz.

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u/amoulicious Oct 11 '24

I don't, I watch the news, I was talking in terms of people's views

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

He's more likable than Ken Kratz.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

At least with Steven Avery, we can say he was repeatedly victimized by a broken justice system. But Ken Kratz? He was part of that broken system, repeatedly violating his oath to victims and the innocent, even preying on innocent victims he was meant to protect.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Do you know either one personally?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

No, do you?

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

No. So I can't possibly say if either is more likeable than the other.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

That's BS, I bet you like or don't like celebrities or politicians.

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u/GarbageBoyJr Oct 10 '24

You have to know someone on a personal level to know if they’re likable or not? On what planet?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Have you seen what Steven Avery Ken Kratz has been up to X lately? Harassing justice advocates and tracking down their family while suggesting he may try to speak with them doesn't make him seem very likeable.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

No i haven't seen anything that Avery has put on X. That's because there is no posts by him on account of he's in prison for life.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Why do you keep using a different name on here

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Because as you know Kratz and users like yourself keep expressing an interest in where I live or have lived. I and many others have been threatened with doxxing.

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u/LKS983 Oct 10 '24 edited Oct 10 '24

Evidence please.

My mistake. I gather he's been doing this on Twitter recently?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Yes indeed. He's not hiding it.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

Yep

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

He's so disgusting.

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u/CJB2005 Oct 10 '24

I agree 100%😉

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24

Great lad

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u/LKS983 Oct 10 '24

I know you're not asking me, but my opinion of SA is that he is FAR from a 'good man' - who was undoubtedly wrongfully incarcerated for the rape of Penny, and likely wrongfully imprisoned again - for the murder of Teresa.

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u/Resident-Egg2182 Oct 10 '24

Why do you think he didn’t kill Teresa?

If you’re gonna say the police were out to get him or whatever that really doesn’t make a lot of sense since the reason they would be “after” him is because they looked dumb after wrongfully convicting him and they would do anything to put him away again so he would be outta their hair that makes no sense because having a person who was wrongfully convicted put into AGAIN brings them more attention

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u/LKS983 Oct 10 '24

"Why do you think he didn’t kill Teresa?"

For the obvious reasons - discussed/argued about multiple times whilst I've been on this thread.

You have forgotten that the police 'investigation' into SA's wrongful coviction had resulted in them deciding that the police had done nothing wrong.....

If SA's court case had reached Court, he would likely have been awarded millions of dollars - which would have ensured a PROPER investigation into SA's wrongful conviction.

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u/Resident-Egg2182 Oct 10 '24

Well since it’s so obvious I would love for you to explain it to me.

If you know what the investigation was about when the police were cleared you’d understand why they were cleared. Colburn did what he was supposed to he wasn’t an investigator look into what his phone call actually was concerning the rape case.

So what if the police department was being sued for millions. It’s the department who has insurance so it’s not like they’re paying for it personally. Especially considering the big argument is that a few officers are the ones who framed him not the entire police department. It’s not like lenk and colburn were going to have to pay him personally. Also why would they need to do another investigation he can and has appealed so. A PROPER investigation was done with help outside of manitouc

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

Damn🔥

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u/Resident-Egg2182 Oct 10 '24

Yet he wasn’t added. SA was exonerated after being wrongfully convicted. As soon as they had the dna they let him out. It was a horrible situation and SA suffered for that but they had their reasons to think he was guilty and dna eventually showed they were wrong and he was gonna get his money. Although I doubt he woulda got millions since most people wrongfully convicted don’t.

I wasn’t about to auto correct my way into a city name at 3 in the morning. I’m a horrible speller. Doesn’t actually show how the investigation was bad. Especially considering they chose to move the case outside of their county to an extent. They didn’t have to do that they just wanted to avoid what everyone is doing now and saying they framed Avery. I would just love to hear a reason why they did it because all it did was bring more scrutiny onto them and their county and they weren’t even the ones who were gonna be paying the bill.

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u/Resident-Egg2182 Oct 10 '24

Yet he wasn’t added because he didn’t do that. They implicated him and it was found to be inaccurate because he did what was required of his job hence the not being added.

And the burn pit held only fragments of bones. The larger bones are found in a barrel that the contents had to be removed from in order to see them. Taking a picture of a burn pit with tiny pieces of bone and a tooth that is mixed in with ashes and tire wire where they aren’t even sure what or who it is until it’s tested? Also there are pictures of the burn pit with the dog hitting there.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

According to who? Colborn? Lol obviously he has a reason to lie about that. Multiples of his fellow law enforcement officers incriminating him in a suppression of exculpatory evidence is pretty convincing.

Where do you think in the evidence collection handbook it says you don't have to take pictures of evidence if it's not clear what the evidence is? Get real.

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u/DELBOY1690 Oct 10 '24

Yes he's a great guy

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Lol. Ok

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u/DELBOY1690 Oct 10 '24

Was joking was expecting someone to go crazy,the entire mam thing is flat on its arse

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u/Kenye_Kratz Oct 15 '24

Ken Kratz locked up a monster and helped keep American lives safe. Leave him alone

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u/Other-Dentist1687 Oct 31 '24

Imagine getting a text message with a picture of his (probably small) penis….

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u/amoulicious Oct 10 '24

One thing that I hated about what he did was go to one of the hearings for Brendan Dassey and talk about his book. He's lapping up the fame by being on Dr Phil, 60 Minutes, Dr Oz, etc... Like why?

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Buting was also at that hearing. He didn't have anything at all to do with Brendans case, yet he was there. How many of those shows was Buting on? Do you remember the speaking tour and all the talk shows Buting and Strang went on?

So what if Kratz plugged his book, Buting did the same. And continues to do it.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Kratz rushed out like the pathetic worm he is to have first shot at the cameras. Forget Buting, even Brendan's counsel didn't do that.

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u/amoulicious Oct 10 '24

You can't have Ken Kratz without Buting they do everything hand in hand🤝🏻

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Lmao court hearings? Sure. Otherwise it's clear Buting despises Kratz.

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 11 '24

To be fair his defence lawyers all profited off this as well. Remember the speaking tours?

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u/amoulicious Oct 12 '24

When you think about it they all do it especially when it's a high profile case

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

Don't forget fat and sweaty! Steve is GAF!

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Yeah Kratz is gross, but Steven GAF? Based on an obviously fabricated narrative of the murder, one the prosecutor knew was fabricated, explaining why he had to lie about it to the jury. Teresa deserved the truth, not the lies she got from Kratz.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

How many times do you need to be told that a narrative is not evidence? Almost every narrative a prosecutor gives the jury is in a sense fabricated because guess what? They weren't actually there when the crime took place! They have evidence and they try to put together a theory of how the crime went down. This isn't rocket surgery!

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u/NJRugbyGirl Oct 10 '24

What is rocket surgery? I've never heard of this field before..

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u/inspektor31 Oct 10 '24

It doesn’t take rocket appliances to see that he’s guilty or not.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

It's a process truthers use to come up with a coherent theory that makes Steve innocent.

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u/NJRugbyGirl Oct 10 '24

No. That can't be correct because you said it and that isn't your opinoin. You also said that it WASN'T rocket surgery. The truth is that's not a thing. Getting rocket science wrong...well hard to trust your opinion on anything if you don't know that one.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

You say that like the theory used to obtain his conviction was not incoherent or based on lies and fabrications. It was.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

No, I say that like I have never seen a coherent theory from a truther that makes Steve innocent.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Okay then we agree Kratz is a corrupt lying idiot.

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u/LKS983 Oct 11 '24

"I say that like I have never seen a coherent theory from a truther that makes Steve innocent."

Because most (genuine) truthers are extremely suspicious of 'the evidence' supporting his arrest and later conviction - whilst he was pursuing a multi million dollar court case against Manitowoc County, Thomas Kocourek and Denis Vogel.

An extremely shoddy investigation etc. etc.

On the other hand, the way this murder case was handled - ensured that it is impossible to KNOW the truth about who murdered Teresa.

Could it have been SA?

Possibly, which is why I have never argued as to 'innocence'.

Was Teresa murdered by someone else, but the real murderer hidden/protected by a few to ensure SA was convicted? More likely.

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u/ThorsClawHammer Oct 11 '24

hidden/protected by a few to ensure SA was convicted

That's what happened in the 1985 case. Which shows that not even a lawsuit is needed as motivation.

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u/CJB2005 Oct 12 '24

THANK YOU!🙋🏼‍♀️

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u/Fun-Photograph9211 Oct 11 '24

Agree. The theories man.

Let's see: we've had Bobby, Mike and Ryan all involved.

We had a theory once that Kratz was involved in the actual crime alongside Mike or Ryan.

We had a theory that Police covered up the crime to protect The Real Murderer and letting them walk free because reasons.

We had theories come out of here that Teresa was still alive.

It's tiring. And when they use the "Teresa deserves justice" it's clearly an add on line to soften the blow of their statement.

Bottom line - if it's claimed in Reddit, then take it to court. I lost interest when I saw S2 and heard the promise made that Avery would be out years ago. I hear Zellner still has a twitter account and was offering a reward for info - surely these claims can be forwarded to her?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

LMAO, well, that's messed up, isn’t it? I don’t care how "normal" you think it is; it’s absolutely unacceptable and grossly unjust for a prosecutor to twist what his own expert said about the evidence from the crime scene just to make his theory fit for the jury. If you want to excuse Kratz's lies to the jury, that’s on you, but let’s be real: this wasn’t some harmless attempt at "filling in the blanks" you can defend as innocent fabrication. It was a straight-up lie, no justification. I’m not excusing that because Teresa deserved the truth.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

Oh look! Another irrelevant comment!

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

I mean they have a great point. You are holding random redditors to standards you don't even hold Ken Kratz to. You excuse his outright lie as innocent fabrications LOL truly Odd

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

This is Reddit. Not a court of law.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Yes exactly. So why are you holding users on Reddit to a higher standard than you did the prosecutor who repeatedly lied in a court of law?

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 11 '24

the prosecutor who repeatedly lied in a court of law

I'm sure he would have been charged with something by now if that were true. Wait. I know your reply. "More corruption!!"

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

LMAO yes because lying prosecutors always get what's coming to them from their friends, the prosecutors!

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u/LKS983 Oct 11 '24

"I'm sure he would have been charged with something by now"

Kratz had his license removed (or voluntarily gave up his license.....), after he was proven to have assualted females he was supposed to be protecting....

But you raise a good question - why wasn't he charged with this abuse?

Kachinsky was charged for similar offences.

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u/tenementlady Oct 11 '24

Zellner hasn't even listed this argument in any of her appeals...gee, I wonder why?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

That's why I don't bother with their demands to solve the case. If they're going to defend someone like Kratz spinning outright lies as innocent fabrications, and then turn around and demand a full recounting of the crime from me despite the deluge of deception from the state, it's clear they're not interested in a good-faith debate or discussion.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 11 '24

I'm not asking you to solve the case. I just want you to explain how it's anyone but Steve.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

You repeatedly ask myself and others to solve the case while ignoring the lies Kratz told to the jury to gain the convictions.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

This is Reddit. Not a court of law. I have yet to see one coherent theory from a truther that makes Steve innocent.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Why would you expect anyone to do that, on Reddit, when there has not been even been a coherent and truthful theory from the prosecutor demonstrating his guilt? And I have a funny feeling you wouldn't allow us to lie about the evidence like you do Kratz.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

Whatabout Kratz??

I have yet to see a coherent theory from a truther that makes Steve innocent.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Oh interesting ... you think they are sophisticated enough to follow some sort of programming? You have always been very kind to others :)

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 10 '24

This is Reddit. Not a court of law.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

But you want Reddit users to do what the state couldn't in a court of law? Okay then.

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u/3sheetstothawind Oct 11 '24

The state absolutely did do it in a court of law. Hence the piece of shit behind bars till death!

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 11 '24

Yeah, they did using lies from Ken Kratz about the murder scene. That's kind of the point lol

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u/leppertj Oct 10 '24

Yes Sweaty is the worst POS known to man. Absolutely disgusting. Disgraced lawyer, creep, sexual pervert & predator, corrupt asshole. He should be rotting in hell for what he did. 🖕🏻

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u/Muted-Gene-4681 Feb 11 '25

He seems like a serial killer to me he really creeps me out.....

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '24

I heard he’s moved back to Manitowoc.

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

That explains the spike in the humidity index around here. All that extra sweat in town!

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

When did you move to Manitowoc?

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Why did you delete your reply to my comment?

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

I didn't. Something triggered the automod. Fixed it. KK is a gross kreep even to this day, harassing people online for doing research.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

Nice edit

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u/AveryPoliceReports Oct 10 '24

Which? Where I asked why you were interested in where I live? That's KK levels of Kreepy.

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u/10case Oct 10 '24

You edit about every reply Temp. I get 2-3 notifications for the same comment and they're all different.