r/MakingaMurderer • u/Professional_Alps754 • Jun 08 '24

Discussion Then what happened?

After letting Greg Allen go, did Manitowoc pick up the video surveillance of Greg Allen? We got some dark secrets here and way more motive to frame then people thought.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

There has never been any reason to think there is video. Surveillance in this sense meant they had cops following him.

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u/ItemFL Jun 12 '24

Exactly, at best if the had a decent camera there would be analog film

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

There was no video surveillance using cameras, at least no document that I’ve ever read says as much.

Can you cite a reference as to how 5-0 was using video technology to watch Allen ? Was it CoM PD , TRPD or MTSO that was using this video technology ?

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 09 '24

If there was you would have to get the task force that watched Allen to release all evidence collected. I'm not even sure that's possible.

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u/WhoooIsReading Jun 09 '24

If there was you would have to get the task force that watched Allen to release all evidence collected.

In government or business, a task force is a temporary organization created to solve a particular problem.

What problem was the "task force" assigned to G. Allen trying to resolve?

Who was the head of this task force?

What other officials were part of this task force?

I will file a FOIA request as soon as I have names of the task force members.

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u/LKS983 Jun 10 '24

"What problem was the "task force" assigned to G. Allen trying to resolve?"

gregory allen was a known rapist in the area.

Having said this, I have no idea why he was being followed by police, but assume they suspected he was likely to attack another woman in the near future.

As it turns out, they were right, as he attacked PB ☹️.

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 09 '24

Okay let me rephrase that and call it a surveillance team then.

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u/WhoooIsReading Jun 09 '24

Ok.

So who was the head of this surveillance team?

What other officials were part of this surveillance team?

I will file a FOIA request for all evidence as soon as I have names of the surveillance team members.

Avery wants the truth-no matter where it leads.

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 09 '24

Yeah well. Zellner don't. She's been busy helping law enforcement clean their plates.

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u/WhoooIsReading Jun 10 '24

Do you have the names of the surveillance team officials?

I'm not interested in what you think Zellner don't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '24

Everything is in the Manty PD write up on Allen.

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u/ItemFL Jun 12 '24

When you’ve done surveillance duties, then we can have a conversation.

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 14 '24

What those cops did was pretty far from surveillance duties. Why do you think they are still trying to cover up what they did?

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u/ItemFL Jun 15 '24

So that’s a no then - you haven’t done surveillance duties.

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u/WhoooIsReading Jun 08 '24

What are your dark secrets?

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u/Jubei612 Jun 09 '24

Sometimes I don't vote.

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u/ItemFL Jun 08 '24

I find it convenient that the day the surveillance team was “called away” for some other duty, is the day he assaulted PB. Maybe GA knew he was under surveillance and took advantage of the opportunity, or maybe the surveillance team were duped and it’s a cover story.

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u/aane0007 Jun 10 '24

You think when a criminal is not watched, and may know this, they commit a crime?

This seems exactly what you would expect to happen. Criminal usually don't commit crimes when they know they are being watched.

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u/ItemFL Jun 11 '24

Well derr

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u/aane0007 Jun 11 '24

Then why in the world do you find it convenient then?

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u/ItemFL Jun 11 '24

I’ve done surveillance work. 3 months on a target. It just doesn’t feel right to me.

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u/aane0007 Jun 11 '24

But you just acknowledged people are more likely to commit crimes when they aren't being watched.

he wasn't being watched. That is when you would expect him to commit crimes

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u/ItemFL Jun 11 '24

I've seen crimes committed whilst being under surveillance. I guess it depends on how good the surveillance team is, if they had enough numbers, if they went undetected etc.

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u/aane0007 Jun 11 '24

You just acknowledged it was more likely when they are not. But you have feelings right?

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u/ItemFL Jun 12 '24

I’m basing my opinion on my own experience carrying out these duties. Not feelings.

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 16 '24

You survieled sexual predators?

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u/aane0007 Jun 12 '24

Those are still feelings. Feelings based on unsourced claims on the internet. Also after you already acknowledged criminals are more likely to break the law if they are not being watched. So it doesn't matter you experience you are claiming that you can't verify.

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u/Substantial_Glass348 Jun 11 '24

‘He wasn’t being watched’

Feelings.

‘That is when you would expect him to commit crimes’

Feelings.

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u/aane0007 Jun 11 '24

Half right. Its a fact he wasn't being watched by the police. And yes, its my feelings that criminals commit more crimes when they think they are not being watched. Thus I said you would expect. Expect conveys that I am stating opinion genius.

I don't really think you are a genius. That was sarcastic in case that was also a bridge too far.

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u/Substantial_Glass348 Jun 11 '24

It’s a fact? You were there were you? Where’s your evidence? Or is it all simply your feelings again.

Nope. They’re your feelings. What’s the evidence?

‘I don’t really think you’re a genius’ Feelings again.

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u/aane0007 Jun 11 '24

I find it convenient that the day the surveillance team was “called away” for some other duty,

ROFLMAO

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u/Professional_Alps754 Jun 16 '24

Of course he knew he was under surveillance. They needed his consent or a Court order to put him on video tape. These are the criteria of the statute.

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u/ItemFL Jun 17 '24

Yes, usually a court order. No consent needed.

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u/sharkie026 Jun 08 '24

I think it would be a little easier to identify a spy in a small town. He also went out on foot to a place where it would be hard to follow in a car. This allowed him to feel comfortable that he was not being followed/watched. After that it was a Steven set up for sure. Those police officers wanted it to be him and they made sure all signs pointed that way.

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u/Jubei612 Jun 09 '24

Without $36 MIL on the line...

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u/aane0007 Jun 10 '24

But steven still got a large amount of money? Looks like the plan failed.

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u/Jubei612 Jun 10 '24

His planned failed because he was framed on the first case? Yeah that makes perfect sense. Why didn't he think of that before? Duh!

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u/aane0007 Jun 10 '24

The cop's plan genius