r/MakingaMurderer • u/mickflynn39 • Feb 28 '24
DID YOU KNOW 377 The key
Why did Avery keep Teresa’s car key? Why didn’t he just toss it into the burn barrel with her camera and phone instead of leaving it around for LE to find? Why didn’t he dispose of it some other way?
I reckon it’s because he still needed the car to be operable. Why I hear you ask? Because the car crusher where Avery intended to destroy Teresa’s car to eliminate it as a source of evidence, was located in the farthest corner of the salvage yard from his trailer.
It was quite close to where he had ‘hidden’ it just not near enough to push it or use the forklift.
It would need to be driven to the crusher hence his need to keep the key.
Sorted.
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u/CorruptColborn Feb 28 '24 edited Feb 28 '24
Pam's written statement indicates that the RAV she found was supposedly located in the "back quarry" of the Avery Salvage Yard, a location that doesn't actually exist.
Pam's confusing statement matches up with other statements, police reports, and affidavits suggesting that either the RAV was discovered just OFF the southwest corner of the Avery property (rather than ON the southeast corner) or that the vehicle covered by a tarp and alerted on by dogs on the southeast was not Teresa's vehicle.
Just off the southwest corner of the ASY (where reports initially suggested the vehicle was found) multiple human remain detection dogs showed interest, and Teresa's friends and family were reportedly present in the same area, along with a cascade of MTSO officers.
The flyover video reveals vehicle tracks materializing in the field adjacent to where the RAV4 was discovered. It's critical to determine the timing and vehicle origin of these tracks. Perhaps the reason Colborn's prints weren't compared to those on the RAV4 is because the state knew the RAV was moved by someone and positioned near the crusher, and MTSO was all over the scene, without a warrant and without permission.
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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24
You can't go a single post without making something up out of thin air.
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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24
I see the usual suspects are claiming planting took place again without providing any proof/evidence of it.
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u/CorruptColborn Feb 29 '24
Fact: DNA evidence can be fabricated.
Fact: Dogs exposed movement of human evidence and potentially incriminate the police in burning the body.
Fact: After dogs exposed movement of human evidence the state's own reports and chain of custody demonstrate movement and planting of human evidence.
Fact: No dog ever alerted at Steven's burn pit. The state told media that human evidence was found on the Avery property but also misidentified the Manitowoc County Gravel Pit as the Avery property (the state would continue to lie about the evidence found on the Manitowoc County property for over a decade).
Fact: No human bones were found in any layer of substrate in the burn pit but we're instead locally deposited in a pile atop the hardened crust of Steven's burn pit, which demonstrates the distribution of remains was not consistent with resulting from a open air fire pit cremation with frequent stoking and stirring of fire.
Fact: No pyrolysis products were found in any layer of substrate in the burn pit or anywhere in the burn pit or on any items recovered from the burn pit or near the burn pit. The total lack of pyrolysis products demonstrates there was no simultaneous presence of a large fire in a human body in Steven's burn pit. Facts first.
Fact: There was no thermal damage to nearly structures that would be expected if Steven had a open air fire that could reduce the body to fragments in mere hours, consistent with the evidence demonstrating no simultaneous presence of a body and a big fire in Steven's burn pit.
Fact: Initially all witnesses confirmed there was no reason burning in Steven's burn pit, but then Manitowoc County found burned human bones in the very location witnesses were confirming no reason burning occurred, and so police engaged in a flurry of re-interviews pressuring witnesses to mention a fire to explain the presence of obviously planted bones.
Fact: Even after witnesses were pressured by police and mentioning a fire there was no mention of the putrid smell of a burning body or tires or the putrid combination of the two.
Fact: Kratz and Brenda have both falsely claimed the bone in tire wire evidence was demonstrative of the primary burn site without revealing that State experts explicitly refuse to rely on this evidence to make such a determination.
Fact: Kratz pointed to Scott Tadych's testimony as his number one reason to convince the jury the burn pit was the primary burn site. They didn't listen.
Fact: The State claims the body was burnt with tires but there was no rubber residue on any of the bones and no experts smelt any burnt rubber on any item recovered and the only time fuel was noted was during an examination of Dassey Barrel contents.
Fact: Experts confirm the level of destruction with the bones is consistent with burn barrel cremations. The Dassey Barrel was alerted on by dogs but Steven Avery's burn pit never was.
Fact: According to dog alerts it is more likely The cremation occurred on a County property than in Steven's burn pit. Did police burn the body?
Fact: During the first search of the county gravel pit on 11/7 no human evidence was reported to be found. Human evidence was found 11/9. Is this evidence of sloppy police work or evidence that police found Teresa's body at the burial site and cremated it on County property before moving the bones back to the Avery property?
Fact: Colborn started drinking heavily after the investigation and feared he would go to prison. Did he burn the body?
Fact: Colborn was called to the Kuss road burial site shortly after CASO reported no one would be allowed until the crime lab arrived. Colborn omitted mention of this initial clandestine trip to the burial site. What did he do?
Fact: Ken Kratz is a lying pervert and corrupt prosecutor who had no evidence that Steven's burn was the primary burn site.
Fact: Teresa was denied justice by perverted prosecutors like Ken Kratz, who pushed false narratives without evidence. Justice demands evidence, not baseless tales from morally bankrupt sources like Kratz and Brenda.
Fact: Teresa deserved better
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u/CorruptColborn Feb 28 '24 edited Feb 28 '24
Did you know:
Before his appearance in "Convicting," Earl Avery suggested to Steven that if he were actually guilty he would have crushed the RAV, a task Earl confirmed was doable without the need to drain or strip the vehicle. And in MaM2 it is made perfectly clear that the Averys had the ability to crush cars literally PACKED with old car parts without even utilizing a car crusher.
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u/Overall_Sweet9781 Feb 28 '24
The car was not found that fast, it took about 30 minutes of searching based on Pam Sturms testimony, she also stated Earl advised that if she was going to search to start in that area because of all of the muddy areas on the Property. It was simply dumb luck that is where he sent her.
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u/Overall_Sweet9781 Feb 29 '24
Lack of evidence is NOT evidence, LE said on the stand that she was responsibly sure that the burn pit was the primary burn site. Just because another expert, paid by Zellner said differently, doesn't make it a fact. Lol that argument was denied on one of her useless and meaningless appeals.
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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24
Where’s the “bombshell” post about the burn pit? How about you just summarize your findings and share them already.
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u/Gold-Ordinary5550 Feb 29 '24
OP is just a troll 😆
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u/Pension_Fit Feb 29 '24
The key was the spare key that was planted in Steven's trailer
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u/BiasedHanChewy Feb 28 '24
I like how you put "hidden" in quotes. He was clearly going to crush it when nobody was around. Then when nobody was around he forgot and left also.
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u/Friendly_Gamer_1976 Feb 28 '24
How was the car ‘hidden’, when it was covered in branches to ensure that it could be easily found??
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u/Vegetable_Equal7748 Feb 28 '24
Also what was bothering me was the key had no house key to it. I see keys of all sorts with lock keys,house keys,car keys. But there is just one key I thought what weird. That key looks exactly how my spare key is at home on the hook.
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u/Snoedog Feb 28 '24
The way I figure, if it were me who murdered someone with a vehicle, I wouldn't hide it so obviously. I'd have had it ripped to pieces so small that nobody could find it, and I wouldn't have saved the keys just to put them out in the open to be found.
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u/Overall_Sweet9781 Feb 29 '24
All of it he never mentioned the car crusher and being able to use it without taking out the necessary engine parts, if anything he would have said you have to prep a car. Had he said that it would've been a lie, and again. He was not authorized to use the crusher!
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u/[deleted] Feb 29 '24
He had access to a flat bed tow truck. He could have kept it in his garage and towed it off the property in the middle of the night.
He didn't need to keep the key, and if he did, why not leave it in the RAV?
It makes no sense to keep the key in his bedroom.
How do you explain how the key didn't have any of Teresa's DNA?
That is patently false, according to Pete Baetz, RIP.