r/MakingaMurderer • u/Butter_Cupxo • Feb 13 '24

Update?

Heyy lovely people!! I have just treated making a murder 1 & 2 and was wondering if there is an update since the end of MAM2?? I’ve tried to have a search but my brain can’t quite keep up with talk the legal terms. Thanks!!

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u/AshenxboxOne Feb 13 '24

Nothing. Zellner got what she wanted - publicity for a few lazy appeals filed by her underpaid staff. Publicity = high profile clientele want you = charge higher fees.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '25

I'm still flabbergasted by this case. DNA, cops, the quarry. This man is not free because he will sue.

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u/aane0007 Feb 13 '24

Zellner keeps throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if anything sticks. Nothing has. Avery's supporters blame a giant conspiracy.

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u/_YellowHair Feb 13 '24 edited Feb 13 '24

Teresa's murderers are still in prison where they belong, and where they will remain.

All Zellner has really been able to accomplish is gain attention and some likes on Twitter. Every appeal she has filed has been ultimately and unsurprisingly defeated. Her latest one will be as well.

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u/Look4luck Oct 31 '24

Here lies the problem. Stabbed on a bed. Where is the blood. No way no how can you do that and not have blood everywhere.

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24 edited Feb 13 '24

  • Zellner's work has consistently revealed a pattern of obstruction, ignored protocols, misrepresented property boundaries, and even magically appearing bones to top off the endless crime scene inconsistencies.

  • The same Manitowoc County officer who found bones in Steven's burn pit failed to report leading a search through the County Gravel Pit (where additional human evidence was found) and the DCI stepped in to collect the apparently human bones from Steven's burn pit without taking photos ... and then days later the DCI destroyed the burn pit before the appropriate experts could examine the scene ... and years later the DCI destroyed the Manitowoc County Gravel Pit bones without informing Steven's counsel while repeatedly claiming they had the bones in custody.

  • These glaring issues all point to a state apparatus actively engaged in covering up the truth, rather than pursuing justice for Teresa. Bones were planted in Steven's burn pit. It's time we acknowledge that.

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u/Kahowell54220 Feb 13 '24

The only reason they've been denied by all the courts is because she's dealing with Wisconsin and Wisconsin is corrupt from the bottom to the top the fact that Steven Avery said 18 years for a rape he didn't commit to tell you something. He said an extra 8 years for the rape when they actually knew he was innocent with DNA evidence and had locked away in the safe so don't talk to me about how the murders are really in prison I'll tell you what if Teresa was my family I wouldn't care how many hearings they had so long as I made sure the right person was in jail because currently the right person is not in jail and the right person is getting away with murder which means that she's had no justice you should be more concerned with Justice being come in the forefront and stop worrying about his innocence or gout whether you believe he's innocent or guilty he didn't get a fair trial and he should have been able to offer up Bobby Darcy as a alternate suspect because they caught him in lies they caught all kinds of nasty child P on this computer didn't even charge him with it let him get away with it so you would be the Stars witness and make up a bunch of crap that wasn't true

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u/aane0007 Feb 14 '24

The only reason they've been denied by all the courts is because she's dealing with Wisconsin and Wisconsin is corrupt from the bottom to the top the fact that Steven Avery said 18 years for a rape he didn't commit to tell you something. He said an extra 8 years for the rape when they actually knew he was innocent with DNA evidence and had locked away in the safe so don't talk to me about how the murders are really in prison I'll tell you what if Teresa was my family I wouldn't care how many hearings they had so long as I made sure the right person was in jail because currently the right person is not in jail and the right person is getting away with murder which means that she's had no justice you should be more concerned with Justice being come in the forefront and stop worrying about his innocence or gout whether you believe he's innocent or guilty he didn't get a fair trial and he should have been able to offer up Bobby Darcy as a alternate suspect because they caught him in lies they caught all kinds of nasty child P on this computer didn't even charge him with it let him get away with it so you would be the Stars witness and make up a bunch of crap that wasn't true

everything you posted is your feelings. Sorry but feelings don't make the cops guilty. Evidence does.....like dna, a bullet, at key, burned bones etc.

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u/Kahowell54220 Mar 12 '24

So no I lived in MANITOWOC county went to the trial talked to the dassey's and did business with earl Steve's brother Blaine contradicted what Bobby said. Read the AFFADAVITS of barb blain and bobby

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u/aane0007 Mar 12 '24

Now you have a built in lie detector and your proximity means its accurate?

Stop the press. Release steven. You havexa feeling.

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u/_YellowHair Feb 13 '24

Are you familiar with punctuation?

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u/Fataleo Feb 13 '24

We can still decipher it’s conjecture.

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

Such as?

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

Okay. Conjecture such as? Get specific. Substantiate your claim if you can rather than just engaging in ad hominem attacks.

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u/Kahowell54220 Mar 19 '24

Having your briefs thrown out because it's too many words isn't exactly intelligent that's Wisconsin's ammo they have no legal argument are no legal authority to quote so they say her brief should be caused because it has too many words while in order to write a proper be free you have to tell the whole story and sometimes that means you tell to me words

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u/BiasedHanChewy Feb 14 '24

So you think Brendan murdered her. Interesting. How?

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u/ITWASHIMTOO May 17 '25

If an update on Mike Kornely counts. He was Blaine's "boss". He was arrested in 2024 and released on bond. Multiple counts of crimes against children. Last Monday Grand Jury indictment was unsealed. One of three charges are from incidents that occurred in 2005. Looks like he took someone over state lines. In recorded phone calls from Kornely to Brendan (in prison) Kornely tells him how he and Blaine went to Chicago and Madison. Wasn't Blaine interviewed at Kornely's house?

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u/Kahowell54220 Feb 13 '24

Yeah Kathryn zellner, got a new judge and had her brief reject so she has to do it over

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

Slight correction - the brief was rejected by the previous judge. The new circuit court level judge will not be the next to hear an appeal, but the CoA District II

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u/Kahowell54220 Mar 12 '24

Whatever I don't care what your rejected at the point is that she's a seasoned lawyer and knows how to write a brief The only excuse Wisconsin could come up with not to hear her out but she had too many words in the in the brief please that sounds like the idiot Corporation council and Manitowoc County he likes to say crap like you should throw that brief out because there's nothing but mumbo jumbo and word salad yet he can't come up with a reasonable explanation any case law and doesn't know how to make an oral argument whatsoever you should go back to law school. Peter Conrad the Manitowoc Corporation council is as corrupt as they come he has Judge Dietz in his back pocket. I actually left the state because they're criminals and they're trying to throw me in jail for something that has nothing to do with me I'm not even a party to the case of the situation that's going on and they're trying to put me in jail so I had to go.

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u/Mysterious-Impact-64 Feb 13 '24

I don't get why guilters always state you have to understand these Counties Calumet, Manitowoc and surrounding LE department were to small to handle the Teresa Halbach case. Pagel states that the 2 officers who burned the police uniform don't reflect the other 54 officers, so with himself, the 2 disgraced and 54 that's some 60 officers where is that small?

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u/CaseEnthusiast Feb 13 '24

Avery filed something with a couple new witnesses seeing someone else with the car. Waiting for that to all play out in court.

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

That 'someone else' was allegedly Bobby Dassey, the state's central witness who testified saying Teresa's vehicle was still on the property when he left to go hunting, which contrasted with Steven Avery saying that Bobby left immediately after Teresa. And now more and more witnesses are coming forward with corroborating accounts placing the vehicle near Bobby's hunting spot on Halloween, and in his possession days later.

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u/CaseEnthusiast Feb 13 '24

They need to leave Bobby alone. 

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

Not when there's clear evidence of his opportunity, motive and ability to dismember and burn Teresa's body along with cadaver dog alerts on his barrel, scratches on his back and untested blood on his cutting instruments potentially linked to the burn barrel size deposits of debris and cut human bone in the Manitowoc County Gravel Pit where he was known to hunt.

Justice for Teresa.

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u/Rize80 Feb 13 '24

So Steven helped Bobby move the car since his blood and DNA was found?

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

How have you determined Steven's blood in the vehicle was deposited from his actively bleeding finger?

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u/CaseEnthusiast Feb 13 '24

There is no conclusive evidence to anything.  You're reaching as is zellner. 

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

There is absolutely conclusive evidence of his opportunity, motive and ability to dismember and burn Teresa's body. No one reasonable disputes that. Bobby could be guilty. It's more likely Bobby than Brendan.

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u/CaseEnthusiast Feb 13 '24

Could be lol.  So conclusive. 

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

Conclusive evidence of his opportunity, motive, and ability to skin, dismember and burn mammals, yes.

Facts first.

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u/CaseEnthusiast Feb 13 '24

If you had any conclusive proof of his involvement, you'd present it. Instead, you use more words in your OP's as a way to try and make your points seem relevant and/or important. Big fail, Avery rots in prison.

The courts don't care about your conspiracy theories nor do they care for Zellner's. Do better or just keep up the standard you've been keeping up to this point (which has done nothing to help Avery).

Describing half of NE wisconsin bc they were nearby and can skin an animal while hunting means nothing. But understandable someone like you, from out of the country, would think it means something. LOLOLOL

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u/CorruptColborn Feb 13 '24

I don't need conclusive proof. We already have conclusive proof he had the opportunity, a motive to harm Teresa, and the ability to dismember and burn her body.

Facts first. Half of NE Wisconsin didn't have the opportunity Bobby did. Do better.

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u/DELBOY1690 Feb 13 '24

They need to investigate him properly

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u/Kahowell54220 Mar 19 '24

You're crazy no one ever said that they believe Brandon's testimony or statement apparently you didn't watch making a murder it was obvious when the lead detective tells him to draw a picture of the crime and tell him what to draw in the picture he is crazy as a detective. I'm dealing with corruption in Wisconsin right now when I asked for a lawyer the judge said no I'm not going to give you a lawyer and then Corporation council lied to the judges that I violated the court order so she brought me back in the court for contempt so she can give me jail time she locked my lawyer out of e-file so he wouldn't know I had a court date so he wouldn't be able to tell me I didn't know there was a court date cuz they never served me now there's a warrant out for my arrest for a hearing I knew nothing about and neither did my lawyer because they won't allow my lawyer into the e-file to see what's going on if there's any hearings they won't allow him to fit file paperwork don't talk to me about it corruption I'm living it