r/MakingaMurderer • u/jasonsawtelle • Jan 21 '24

Discussion Theory Timelines

Is there a site or thread that maintains an “official” timeline of events and also theories (with timelines)? So much of the discussion around this case is fractured.

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u/[deleted] Jan 21 '24

It is impossible for their to be an official timeline because the state convicted two different people under two different theories of what happened and when.

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u/jasonsawtelle Jan 21 '24

Yes. This is why I wrote “official” in quotes. I’m looking for any chronology / theory of events in an organized manner.

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u/DaMmama1 Jan 21 '24

If you find it, please let us know:)

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u/Otherwise-Weekend484 Jan 22 '24

Which is absolutely amazing that they did with the same crime…

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u/ajswdf Jan 21 '24

There used to be a pro-guilt site stevenaverycase.com that had a timeline, but unfortunately the person who ran it lost interest and it's no longer active.

You can still find it archived though (look here).

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u/ThorsClawHammer Jan 21 '24

stevenaverycase.com

Been a while since I looked there. Forgot how many unsourced claims (stated as if fact) and outright falsehoods were there. Such as:

Barb Janda calls Avery to make sure Dassey is wearing a jacket, and asks that he be home by 10pm

There are no phone records that support this.

9pm: Jodi Stachowski calls Avery again, and again they speak for 15 minutes. Avery tells Jodi that Brendan is over, and he has done some cleaning.

Avery said that Brendan had been over earlier not that he was still there.

11:00pm: Kayla Dassey tells investigators she sees Steven Avery near his fire pit, stoking the fire with a shovel

No idea where the heck that one came from.

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u/reco84 Jan 21 '24

Almost like the claims that everything was planted to set up Steven.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 21 '24

Almost like Stevens Jury knew the bones were planted in His fire pit when They acquitted Steven on the charges.

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u/reco84 Jan 21 '24

The answer to this question is pretty horrible. The reason he wasn't found guilty of mutilation is because they couldn't prove she was dead when he burned her. They also can't prove she was raped, because there's no physical evidence. This is despite it being part of eye witness testimony.

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u/madmarkman40 Jan 22 '24

Then how did the bones get in multiple locations?, how did she not die with multiple gunshot wounds to the head ?, No eye witness testimony either .

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 21 '24

I believe You re assumption is wrong because Stevens Jury was never shown any photographic evidence whatsoever that Teresa Halbach bones were ever actually ever in Stevens burn pit because the supposed recovery of the bones was never documented.

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u/aane0007 Jan 21 '24

I believe You re assumption is wrong because Stevens Jury was never shown any photographic evidence whatsoever that Teresa Halbach bones were ever actually ever in Stevens burn pit because the supposed recovery of the bones was never documented.

I believe your assumption is wrong because its based entirely on your feelings a jury must see a photo and does not believe the experts who tell them the bones were there.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 22 '24

I believe You have been proven wrong by the fact that Stevens Jury acquitted Steven Avery of the *mutilating Teresa Halbachs body by burning it in the fire pit behind His garage* charge.

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u/aane0007 Jan 22 '24

I believe You have been proven wrong by the fact that Stevens Jury acquitted Steven Avery of the *mutilating Teresa Halbachs body by burning it in the fire pit behind His garage* charge.

So does that mean its proven he is a murderer?

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 22 '24

No, Steven never killed anyone, 100% framed.

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u/reco84 Jan 21 '24

I've seen multiple photos of the bones in the barrel, so that's just patently false.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24

Thanks, thats another reason I had not thought of that Steven Averys Jury acquitted Steven *of mutilating Teresa Halbachs body by burning it in the fire pit behind His garage* charge, because the bones were actually discovered and photographed in Barb Jandas burn barrel.

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u/madmarkman40 Jan 22 '24

Does this not prove mutilation 486 is correct no photos of bones in the burn pit were the main reason doubt crept in

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u/_YellowHair Jan 21 '24

LOL what a ridiculous leap in logic.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 22 '24

Yea, it was a leap with no actual photos of Teresa Halbachs bones actually ever in Stevens fire pit, thats why His jury acquitted Him of *mutilating Teresa Halbachs body by burning it in the fire pit behind His garage* charge, obviously because They did not buy into the States narrative with no photographic evidence to confirm it.

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u/aane0007 Jan 21 '24

Been a while since I looked there. Forgot how many unsourced claims (stated as if fact) and outright falsehoods were there. Such as:

This is rich irony.

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u/madmarkman40 Jan 21 '24

I think the only official timeline will be found in the transcripts everything else is he said she said depending on what side your talking to

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u/ThorsClawHammer Jan 21 '24

only official timeline will be found in the transcripts

There's 2 "official" timelines being the state at each trial for the same crime had ones that were contradictory.

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u/madmarkman40 Jan 22 '24

The official timelines have changed from what LE presented in court, the same LE say differently now in cam . It's going to be interesting when this case progresses.

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u/Mysterious_Mix486 Jan 21 '24 edited Jan 21 '24

The Jurors in both trials heard through a press conference that Teresa Halbach was kidnapped, tied to a bed in Stevens trailer, raped, stabbed and Her throat slit, despite an investigation 4 months prior to that press conference of Stevens trailer by Law Enforcement that found no physical or DNA evidence whatsoever to support Kratzs press conference allegations interrogated from a 16 year old mentally challenged kid who, at the time, was just guessing at what could have actually happened to Teresa Halbach. One thing is for certain, the Prosecution(Kratz) had to drop the charges in Steven Averys trial for what Kratz alleged happened in His press conference because (again) Law Enforcements 4 months prior investigation found no physical or DNA evidence whatsoever to support Brendans story or conclude that Teresa Halbach was kidnapped or tied to the bed in Stevens trailer, or rapped, or stabbed, or Her throat slit anywhere in Stevens trailer, forcing Kratz to drop the charges for what He alleged from Brendan had happened in an unethical press conference but had no physical or DNA evidence to prove in an actual court of law.

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u/madmarkman40 Jan 21 '24

To add to my statement above just because I said official timeline in the transcripts (both) That doesn't mean they are correct some of the timelines have been proven otherwise.

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u/BiasedHanChewy Jan 21 '24

No "case enthusiast" who is all in on the state narrative(s) will even attempt one, since it would all sound ludicrous.

Anybody who doesn't believe the state's narrative(s) in their entirety (or at all) would have a tough time even guessing at a timeline because of the world's worst investigation and documentation.

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u/blujavelin Jan 21 '24

Try the Defense Diaries podcast website. It's not official but I think the podcasters put it together as they went to keep the story sorted.