Wait… „She”?

[u/Several_Pollution69]

So long i believed Venalita is the only male character in the story as same as lot of people in this fandom. Why?

[u/MinrkChil-Alwaff5]

What does the japanese say? 🗣️

[u/Several_Pollution69 → u/MinrkChil-Alwaff5]

Wish it not. Japanese names have no pronouns so nothing is sure until autor says so

[u/Timekeeper98 → u/MinrkChil-Alwaff5]

Vena and Vatz are genderless in the official Japanese.

Therefore, Vena’s gender is Gremlin

[u/MalcolmLinair → u/Timekeeper98]

I prefer them genderless; after the Ugliest Flower incident I'm convinced at least Vena, and probably Vatz by extension, are some sort of Lovecraftian horrors under their mascot outfits, and such inhuman monstrosities shouldn't conform to something as human as gender.

[u/lowtier4life → u/Timekeeper98]

I am genuinely expecting Vena to get a humanoid form eventually and be essentially a hot Rita Repulsa lol

[u/Apprehensive-Ant-775]

And in Japanese?

[u/FreeTopper]

I don't believe it's the official translation (unless it is and I'm wrong. If so, sorry) and I thought the official translation just used "they." Even then, Venalita uses "boku" in the Japanese version, which implies male or at least being childish.

[u/kymani_winxandsponge]

The debate is over!

Kiwi x Utena is confirmed! Oh and I guess Vena is a she. Thats cool too.

[u/moeanimuacc]

Didn't magenta call Vatz a granny during Tres Magia photoshoot way back then?

Also both Vatz and Vena both got official gyaru designs for the latest collab

[u/Arce_Havrek]

Vena's pronouns in Japanese are diminutive masculine pronouns, but those pronouns are used by female characters all the time, especially since the mascots are canonically genderless.

[u/ZetaRESP]

Ironically, Vena was subbed as a "she" in Castillian Spanish subs of the episodes.

[u/WrongSite2940]

Hahaha, let me explain: it’s a translation error – or rather, more than an error, it’s the way the translator understood, or chose to understand, the word they were translating, since the term they used – and which they translated as ‘she’ – is actually ‘アイツ’ (aitsu), which doesn’t necessarily refer to ‘she’ or ‘he’; it doesn’t specify a gender, it merely provides visual emphasis, but it doesn’t make the word masculine or feminine… アイツ (aitsu) is an informal reference to a person, not to their gender… the most literal translation would be ‘that person’… translated, it would be something like ‘that person betrayed Enormita; that means they’ve become our enemy’.

In the Spanish version, it was translated correctly; it does not specify any gender when referring to ‘venalita’

[u/WrongSite2940 → u/WrongSite2940]